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Ok, This is just a thought. I have pets myself (and I am not vegan anyway).<br><br><br><br>
I read that a lot of people here have pets but isn't it a bit contradictory with the vegan lifestyle? Isn't having a pet something you do for your own pleasure? Wouldn't the animals be happier if they were really free? (especially "less" domesticated animals like birds, fishes and ferrets)<br><br><br><br>
I'm really interested in everyone's 2 cents, that's not at all criticism...
 

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I don't believe it's contradictory at all. Having a pet is like having a friend <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> (Sounds like a kiddy answer, but it's true!) If the animals weren't looked after, they would be cooped up in homeless shelters, running the streets, getting infections, starve....
 

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Having pets is a responsibility and a burden at times, albeit one with great joys attached. It's much like having kids that will never grow up and leave the nest.<br><br><br><br>
Many animals would languish in shelters, facing euthanasia or a life spent in a cage, were it not for rescuers who take them into their homes. On the street, they face disease, malnutrition, torture and cruelty, automobiles, and wild animals. Domesticated cats and dogs possess survival skills, but humans have done our best to beat/train/condition those behaviours out of the animals. They no longer have a natural environment.<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps some pets would be happier free. Perhaps some wouldn't. In the end, we go with our instincts and try to make the best choices for the animals we've chosen to help. There's no black and white answer.
 

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As stated in The Little Prince, "You are responsible forever for that which you have tamed."<br><br><br><br>
Domesticated animals cannot be "set free" to live a "natural" life--they've been biologically changed/selected to depend on humans. We can all certainly refrain from breeding more animals (and I hope most of us practice this!), but helping a creature who is stray or in a shelter or otherwise unloved seems like a peaceful higher calling to the overpopulation problem.<br><br><br><br>
Setting pets free can also do damage to ecosystems. People do enough damage without adding new species to the mix.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>DieselAmy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
As stated in The Little Prince, "You are responsible forever for that which you have tamed."<br><br><br><br>
Domesticated animals cannot be "set free" to live a "natural" life--they've been biologically changed/selected to depend on humans. We can all certainly refrain from breeding more animals (and I hope most of us practice this!), but helping a creature who is stray or in a shelter or otherwise unloved seems like a peaceful higher calling to the overpopulation problem.<br><br><br><br>
Setting pets free can also do damage to ecosystems. People do enough damage without adding new species to the mix.</div>
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agreed.
 

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All my pets were rescues in one form or another. Either from a shelter (or on their way there) or they were abandoned and living on the street. Rescuing animals fits in with the vegan lifestyle. Supporting breeders and pet stores doesn't. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/penguin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":nigel:">
 

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Not a problem for me. Then again, if they would let me keep humans caged, I would do that too.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/devil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":devil:">
 

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All my pets were rescues in one form or another. Either from a shelter (or on their way there) or they were abandoned and living on the street. Rescuing animals fits in with the vegan lifestyle. Supporting breeders and pet stores doesn't. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/penguin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":nigel:"></div>
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Word. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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Some people believe in animal liberation and some don't.<br><br><br><br>
Dogs have been domesticated for so many years that their instincts are somewhat depleted. There's no saying they would make it in the wild on their own.<br><br><br><br>
Cats seem to have a better chance. Mayne domesticated birds could not make it. Also consider how many pets we import. Without homes where people care for them they have nothing because they are no longer in their native habitat and cannot find the foods they need, etc.<br><br><br><br>
Having pets is accepting responsibility for the actions of humans in the past.
 

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because these animals are domesticated, letting them live in the "wild" isn't realistic. I think letting animals sit in shelters, be euthanized, and overpopulate because they aren't spayed/neutered is a lot less vegan than having them as companion animals. also, the animal benefits from the relationship as much as the human does in most cases. we can't go back in time so we need to do right by the animals and this involves having them live with us and actively work toward pushing for adoptions, spay/neuter programs, no-kill shelters, shutting down back yard breeders, things like that.
 

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I love my dog and he loves me. I consider him to be part of our family and because dogs are pack animals, he loves and protects us. When he has gotten out the door on his own before, he runs straight over to my boys and guards them like they are his own puppies. He would definately not want to be out there on his own. He loves his corner of the couch with his head on his favorite pillow. A funny thing, as I continue on my quest to become a true veggie, my dog is going along for the ride. He eats what we eat, so now that meat does not touch our plates, it doesn't touch his either. Maybe that will help with his waist line issues.<br><br><br><br>
That said, as a child I had hampsters. I thought, a few years back, that it would be fun to get one for my boys. Of course, they lost interest and I was the one to feed, clean and take her out to play every night. But it did occur to me one day, that she spent her little life, trying to think of ways to get away. It made me sad when I thought of that. I won't ever get one again, even though nothing made me happier than trying to spoil her.
 
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