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<span style="font-size:xx-small;">I'm sure many of you are familiar with Jenna Mourey, or JennaMarbles, as she is known on Youtube. She is the creator of the viral video, "How to Trick People into Thinking You're Good-looking" or whatever it's called. I've recently gotten into watching her videos, and it's fun! Although it's obvious that she's kind of playing a character (her Facebook page has modelling photos, though I think she's really still an amateur there, for the most part), I find her both amusing and endearing.<br><br>
One of the questions she apparently gets asked a lot is how she stays fit. Because, let's face it, girl has a rockin' body. In the following video, she addresses those questions:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8V7KivOz6Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8V7KivOz6Y</a><br><br>
Ms. Mourey says she follows a vegan diet six days out of the week, and allows herself one cheat day (though she doesn't always take it), during which she can eat not only dairy, but also meat (she admits to liking cheeseburgers). She goes on to say that she follows this lifestyle for dietary purposes, not because she's an "animal freak", though "it's fine if you are". While I dislike her use of the phrase "animal freak" to describe though who are passionate about animal rights, her speech in general tends to be comedically frank, and I don't think she meant it in any kind of really offensive way, which you can see in context, should you decide to watch it.<br><br>
What I can admire about her is that she does not pretend to be a full-out vegan by any means. No moral superiority for not consuming those products. Her lifestyle is what it is. I guess what I'm saying is that it's better than those people who say they're veg*n, and five minutes later, you see them eating fish.<br><br>
And, hey, her fitness kind of inspired me to jump back into veganism (fell off the wagon due to serious issues with obtaining enough food to sustain myself at school). So maybe she'll inspire others to at least cut back on meat, and even egg and dairy products. And that can't be such a bad thing.<br><br>
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So she's an omnivore that follows a healthy diet, and allows a "cheat day" once a week?
 

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So she's an omnivore that follows a healthy diet, and allows a "cheat day" once a week?</div>
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I agree that she's eating better than a typical omni, but I don't like how she seems to view veganism as a diet that one sticks to for the most part. Cheating occasionally is indeed better than doing nothing at all, but I just don't like her attitude. I strongly dislike the idea of diets in general, and that's definitely the way she's presenting this. I don't like how she doesn't seem to care about the well-being of the animals. A person doesn't have to be an "animal freak" to avoid eating or hurting them. <i>I'm</i> not an animal freak. I'm actually a bit of a speciesist. I like certain animals more than others. In fact there are some animals that I don't much care for. That doesn't mean I think they deserve to die and get eaten by humans though. If it's not necessary to my survival, why on earth should I participate in it? A person doesn't have to love all animals to think this way.
 

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xamorphia, could you please use a bit larger font? The small one makes it difficult to read your posts.
 

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I knew her from that "How To Trick People Into Thinking You're Good Looking" video and thought it was hilarious.<br><br>
I hadn't thought about her diet or lifestyle at all beyond that so I'm just happy to learn that even though she eats animal products she at least doesn't eat a lot, that's a pleasant surprise considering how much meat most people eat.<br><br>
Sure it's entirely for health reasons but it's not like the animals or environment care about her motivations, they still benefit. Plus she's pretty and fit and funny and doing a little free advertising for the benefits of cutting meat, dairy and eggs out of your diet, I can't complain about that either. She isn't a vegetarian and doesn't share our goals but she's still encouraging people to eat a primarily vegan diet all the same, so yay!<br><br>
I saw at least a few comments on the video from people saying they were inspired by her, that's pretty cool.
 

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Sure it's entirely for health reasons but it's not like the animals or environment care about her motivations, they still benefit. Plus she's pretty and fit and funny and doing a little free advertising for the benefits of cutting meat, dairy and eggs out of your diet, I can't complain about that either. She isn't a vegetarian and doesn't share our goals but she's still encouraging people to eat a primarily vegan diet all the same, so yay!</div>
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This. I'm hoping that her popularity and good looks will convince more people to look into veganism. Sure, they may start out doing it like three days a week, and not for animal rights, but like you said, the animals and environment still benefit. And maybe once people start to learn about veganism, some of them will actually learn MORE and become full-out vegans for all the right reasons.<br><br>
I don't think the exposure to health benefits is hurting.
 

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define right reasons...
 

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I just want to make her one of my kickass vegan cheeseburgers. Yeah, they're fatty and pretty bad for you, but they're a perfect "cheat on my diet" item because they satisfy a craving without being as bad for you as the non-vegan equivalent.<br><br>
And they taste SO damn good.
 

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define right reasons...</div>
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I meant "right reasons" in the way that other seem to mean it. That is to say, many seem to think that being a vegan just for your health isn't good enough. I mean, I think that taking care of yourself and your body is admirable and to be encouraged in every way. But my point was that people who start as vegans (or "part-time vegans") for health reasons may also start to learn, eventually, about animal rights.
 

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I just want to make her one of my kickass vegan cheeseburgers. Yeah, they're fatty and pretty bad for you, but they're a perfect "cheat on my diet" item because they satisfy a craving without being as bad for you as the non-vegan equivalent.<br><br>
And they taste SO damn good.</div>
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What are your cheeseburgers made of? They sound very nice.
 

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I knew her from that "How To Trick People Into Thinking You're Good Looking" video and thought it was hilarious.<br><br>
I hadn't thought about her diet or lifestyle at all beyond that so I'm just happy to learn that even though she eats animal products she at least doesn't eat a lot, that's a pleasant surprise considering how much meat most people eat.<br><br>
Sure it's entirely for health reasons but it's not like the animals or environment care about her motivations, they still benefit. Plus she's pretty and fit and funny and doing a little free advertising for the benefits of cutting meat, dairy and eggs out of your diet, I can't complain about that either. She isn't a vegetarian and doesn't share our goals but she's still encouraging people to eat a primarily vegan diet all the same, so yay!<br><br>
I saw at least a few comments on the video from people saying they were inspired by her, that's pretty cool.</div>
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I guess you are right in that respect, my back got up because she said "animal freak". It is hard to be veg*n without being thought of some sort of a freak by others.
 

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What are your cheeseburgers made of? They sound very nice.</div>
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If I'm making my own veggie burger, it's diced mushrooms, courgette, carrot and onion, fried, seasoned, blended and bound together with oil and kidney beans, moulded into a patty. If I'm cheating, I use a redwood's burger*. Shallow fry in a pan, a few minutes on each side until nicely browned. A slice of vegan cheese (best to use the american style yellow processed stuff), ketchup on the top bun, vegan mayo on the bottom, a lettuce leaf and a slice of tomato on top of the mayo bun, then the burger and cheese, and a pickle if you like them, then the top bun. Or do the burger, cheese and ketchup, and add mushrooms/onions. Boyfriend prefers the first way, I prefer the second. Serve 'em with home cooked wedges or chips <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
*I have a shortcut version of a lot of the meals I make which cuts out a fair amount of time and effort for when I'm in a hurry. Usually makes them less healthy/more expensive.
 

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I guess you are right in that respect, my back got up because she said "animal freak". It is hard to be veg*n without being thought of some sort of a freak by others.</div>
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Yea, the word freak has some pretty negative connotations. She did say "that's fine if you are", but she looked away from the camera when she said it. She obviously thinks being an "animal freak" isn't a good thing. I thought that was pretty rude but whatever. She can think what she likes. Maybe she'll come around some day.
 

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If I'm making my own veggie burger, it's diced mushrooms, courgette, carrot and onion, fried, seasoned, blended and bound together with oil and kidney beans, moulded into a patty. If I'm cheating, I use a redwood's burger*. Shallow fry in a pan, a few minutes on each side until nicely browned. A slice of vegan cheese (best to use the american style yellow processed stuff), ketchup on the top bun, vegan mayo on the bottom, a lettuce leaf and a slice of tomato on top of the mayo bun, then the burger and cheese, and a pickle if you like them, then the top bun. Or do the burger, cheese and ketchup, and add mushrooms/onions. Boyfriend prefers the first way, I prefer the second. Serve 'em with home cooked wedges or chips <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
*I have a shortcut version of a lot of the meals I make which cuts out a fair amount of time and effort for when I'm in a hurry. Usually makes them less healthy/more expensive.</div>
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That sounds very nice. I will print it and try and make it one day. I made a kidney bean, mushroom, onion and coriander (cilantro) burger about a month ago, it was pretty good.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Yea, the word freak has some pretty negative connotations. She did say "that's fine if you are", but she looked away from the camera when she said it. She obviously thinks being an "animal freak" isn't a good thing. I thought that was pretty rude but whatever. She can think what she likes. Maybe she'll come around some day.</div>
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I hope so. : )
 

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I guess you are right in that respect, my back got up because she said "animal freak". It is hard to be veg*n without being thought of some sort of a freak by others.</div>
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Agreed, that is annoying. I'm guessing she's gotten flack about her diet before and wants to be seen as being as 'normal' as possible.<br><br>
I guess since I already knew who she was I had the impression she was just your average hamburger eating schmo who thinks we're weird anyway, so the attitude didn't surprise me. I was just pleasantly surprised to learn she eats a mostly plant based diet at all! She struck me as the 'I love bacon' type honestly, so that's a step up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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I watched the video and i was actually surprised at how different the makeup and stuff made her look, just like my sister, now i wonder how different i could look lol because i don't really wear makeup. I know her video is joking but since she knows how to do her makeup that way i would assume she looks that way when she goes out, and it's usually how people see her, she was making fun of herself kind of right? It's odd how much my perception changes with the makeup she looks stuck up, and without looks innocent, which was her point i think so she's pretty good.
 

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I like her, she's funny, smart, down to earth and seems very personable in her interviews. She just isn't well-informed about what veganism is, but when a lot of vegans don't even seem to understand what it is about, I'm not gonna hold that against her! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 
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