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At restaurants, asking about soups, I have gotten to the point I just smile and don't comment, but how can someone think chicken broth is vegetarian? Do they think chicken broth is made with vegetables? If so, it would be called vegetable broth, am I correct? I realize that maybe some broth's are "chicken flavored", but I'd rather just avoid it at all.<br><br>
What sucks is when someone invites you to their home and so considerately prepares a vegetarian meal for you and others because *you* are veg*n, and then proudly proclaims, "I"m so glad you liked it! I cooked the noodles with chicken broth, then tossed it with kale..." What do you do, gag in front of them? This happened to me. I gagged inwardly, smiled, and simply said, "well thank you for the effort. That was kind of you." Then I went to the bathroom and tried not to get sick.<br><br>
LOL. Gah-ross.
 

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I understand your position. Many people who are not vegetarian feel that if the pieces of dead flesh are gone from the meal, a stew of their innards does not matter. Anyway, I have a package of chicken broth that is also vegan/vegetarian. It is made, mostly from brewers yeast. I mainly use this faux chicken broth or veggie broth when making food that requires broth.<br><br>
As for restaurants: Websites will usually have menus and ways to ask the management (before going) what the veg*n options are. I am a baker at a nationally known bread/sandwich place and there are a lot of vegetarian options, and any one there will be glad to talk to you about your options. No one will be trying to slide real chicken broth at you under the table because that is illegal. So much possiblity for suing if for example nuts or wheat-- same goes for any ingredient. They are all totally open with ingredients. As far as private home owners. The same laws do not apply.<br><br>
I think all of us who have a variety of food restrictions, be it a Jew or Muslim or a Vegan, or Seventh Day Adventist need to know these problems come up. If I were the Dali Lama, I would thank the host profusely for the meal, and not acted as though things were "wrong." Remember, they are ignorant and trying to make a stranger happy. They don't know. Anyway. Always be thankful.
 

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If I were the Dali Lama, I would thank the host profusely for the meal, and not acted as though things were "wrong." Remember, they are ignorant and trying to make a stranger happy. They don't know. Anyway. Always be thankful.</div>
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Of course - I wouldn't want to make someone feel like their gift of a meal was "not good enough." The effort was kind and thoughtful and more than I would ever ask for. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Which is why I never said anything to my host. I like the way you think. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I've luckily never been told this after I've eaten something, but I have had trouble explaining to someone why it wasn't vegetarian and conveying to a waitress that I didn't want soup that contained it. The only thing I can think to say to make it clear if someone asks is, "If you had to kill an animal to make it - it's not vegetarian".
 

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One of the "vegetarians" that I met this year at college thinks that it doesn't matter if its an animal broth. She said she doesn't worry about it as much, because it isn't as bad as an actual animal being in the soup. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> I was extremely confused. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> I didn't even attempt to explain the fallacy in her argument. *Sigh* People like that confuse me way too much.
 

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"If you had to kill an animal to make it - it's not vegetarian".<br><br><br>
Exactly. That's when you say "If human poop is used to flavor a soup, you don't mind as long as the actual poop doesn't make it into your meal?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Or "I prefer not to eat liquid that came from a vat filled with water, seasoning, and dead birds/cows."
 

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That reminds me. When I was with my ex, I went to a family friend's house of his. The host (who I adore, she's a sweetheart) had good intentions and made a rice dish. She kept telling me how amazing the dish was and right before the food was served, I had my ex check to make sure chicken broth wasn't used. It was and I had to skip. She felt bad, but I wasn't going to eat it to make her feel better. It was just a lesson learned. Everyone else enjoyed it.
 

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My mate had that issue with chicken salt. I've been vegetarian for the entire time he's known me, and he suggested we get chicken salt on our chips. I said that it is usually made from real chickens, so I can't eat it. He had trouble making the connection.
 

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One of the newspapers published a list of the best restaurants in Nashville to go to for vegetarian food.<br><br>
When I republished this list on our organization's website, I got an e-mail telling me that one of the restaurants listed--an "international"/oriental restaurant--cooked all their food in fish broth.<br><br>
So, who do you trust?
 

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I've often had troubles at Asian restaurants with checking that my meal contains no fish, but one time I ordered a vegetarian dish that comes with soup and was told that the soup had fish and was I vegetarian or did I just want the vegetarian meal, which was nice. The deal was all bento boxes came with the soup, not just the vegetarian one.<br><br>
Another time, my dad went to the local Domino's pizza place to get their new vegetarian sandwich thing, and the guy at the counter told him that the sauce contains fish, so would he like a different sauce that is actually vegetarian. When dad rang the complaints line to ask why something labeled vegetarian contained fish he was told "most vegetarians eat fish."<br><br>
I think the problem with these things in most cases is ignorance, not helped by those people that call themselves vegetarian and still eat chicken and/or fish. I think it is up to us to explain to the people dealing with our food that we don't actually eat those things. If you are going to eat somewhere try to inform them in advance that you don't eat meat and that includes things like chicken stock (do this as politely as possible) and if someone has made the mistake of adding things like chicken stock to a meal, explain politely why you cannon eat it, making sure that you let them know that you appreciate the effort. At restaurants we need to specifically ask about the kind of stock used and make sure we remain polite about it.
 

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Bacon salt is vegetarian <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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Some of those flavoured salts use artificial flavours, but you do have to be careful with that one. I came across a packet of pasta that said "bacon flavour" and upon enquiring I found out that the bacon was made from anchovies.
 

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My aunt does this ALL THE TIME( even though I've been meat free for five years). I finally got through to her by telling her gently, "Auntie, they have to boil their little dead bodies to make chicken broth." Her response was "Boy, you're really a fanatic about this stuff." Yes m'aam, I reckon so.
 

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Yes m'aam, I reckon so.</div>
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Don't you love the word "reckon"? Josey Wales tossed that word around.<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4e3-YK3rVA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4e3-YK3rVA</a><br><br>
My whole family is like this with food. My mom makes a stew and figures I can just dig the meat out. No thanks. I say "It's about the darn slaughterhouse."
 

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I find that people are that way about gelatin, too. There aren't any visible pieces of flesh therefore it must be vegetarian.<br><br>
Here in the Deep (Fried) South they use bacon grease in a lot vegetable dishes. And in cornbread. Now I like cornbread but it is really hard to explain to someone that you cannot eat cornbread because it has bacon grease in it. "But it's just a little bit in a whole pan of bread. It's not like there are pieces of bacon in it." *Sigh*
 

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I think all of us who have a variety of food restrictions, be it a Jew or Muslim or a Vegan, or Seventh Day Adventist need to know these problems come up. If I were the Dali Lama, I would thank the host profusely for the meal, and not acted as though things were "wrong." Remember, they are ignorant and trying to make a stranger happy. They don't know. Anyway. Always be thankful.</div>
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That works on a one-off basis, but not with people who will see you regularly because if you don't say something about it they will keep inviting you over for unvegan meals that make you want to run off and barf in the toilet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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That works on a one-off basis, but not with people who will see you regularly because if you don't say something about it they will keep inviting you over for unvegan meals that make you want to run off and barf in the toilet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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That is when you very politely say, "I really appreciate the effort you put into making a meal that I can eat. I know it can be difficult for people who aren't vegetarian to understand what is and is not vegetarian/vegan. I want to let you know that chicken broth isn't vegetarian."<br><br>
It is sometimes hard to do without offending someone, but it beats having to eat the product of a boiled carcass.
 
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