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I have recently become a vegan after only riding in the lacto-ovo boat for about a month. My main reason for becoming vegetarian is based on animal rights, so my move into veganism was only natural and inevitable. I've run into a dilemma, however. I own many leather belts, shoes, watch bands, wrist cuffs, and numerous leather cases, etc. Being a vegan, I will no longer purchase such items. My quandary upon becoming a vegan, though, was in figuring out what to do with the items I currently owned. In purchasing them, I contributed to a cruelty I feel exists and am now against. There is no way they can contribute to that cruelty anymore. But does that justify my continuing to use them? I'm not a rich person, so I can't go out and purchase a closet full of new shoes right away. And the shoes I own now will eventually wear out, start to smell, whatever, and I will then purchase animal friendly shoes, but in the meantime, am I being hypocritical?<br><br><br><br>
If you're a vegan, I would appreciate your thoughts.<br><br><br><br>
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Complicated question.<br><br><br><br>
The animals have already died. If you throw away these items, or hide them in a box in your garage, the animals who once owned the materials, would have died for nothing. If you do use these things, you are not necessarilly continuing to support the cruelty by buying these goods, but you are supporting the fact that they're in style. I would donate them to a charity organization.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by saint nick</i><br><br><b>In purchasing them, I contributed to a cruelty I feel exists and am now against. There is no way they can contribute to that cruelty anymore. But does that justify my continuing to use them?</b></div>
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i would absolutely say that it justifies it. in fact, if you were to go out and replace all of these items, you'd only be contributing more to pollution and environmental degradation. why consume more when you have perfectly good things that aren't causing harm?
 

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well I'd keep the less leathery looking things if you needed some things for the time-being (sell them later)and post others on local online groups ( like search at <a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">http://www.google.com</a> at the groups location for your city and forsale and post there with pics). Or just sell them some other way.<br><br><br><br>
I got a new wallet and belt when I went vegan (that's all I had ... LOL)<br><br><br><br>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Cougar</i><br><br><b>but you are supporting the fact that they're in style.</b></div>
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come on.. if you replace your leather items with faux leather items, i don't think anyone would even be able to tell the difference anyway.
 

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I think this is a personal judgement call and there are no answers that are right for everyone.<br><br><br><br>
Making such a huge change to your lifestyle can't happen overnight. Often people are filled with doubts about if they're doing what they're supposed to in order to 'deserve' the label. I know I did, and occasionally still do.<br><br><br><br>
Don't worry about the label <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Do what you feel is right for yourself and your own ethics, and let the changes happen when it's right for them to happen.<br><br><br><br>
For the record, I personally still own a pair of leather shoes I can't afford to replace yet and I also have clothes and other products made by companies who I wouldn't buy from now. But I'm okay with that. When I can afford it I'll buy products that fit in with my ethical beliefs. I also care about the environment and it doesn't fit in with my personal beliefs to throw them away.<br><br><br><br>
This is only MY way of going about things - you may come to different conclusions, and that's fine too.<br><br><br><br>
You've already made an amazing decision to become vegan. Celebrate the changes you've already made and look forward to the changes you'll make in the future when they come within your means <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'm only vegetarian, so my opinion may not mean much here, but I'm giving my .02 anyway....<br><br><br><br>
For the items that you bought before you went vegan: use them! If you can't afford to replace them (the leather cases and the shoes are the first things that come to mind), then use them out until they have no more life left. THEN, replace them with things that are more vegan-compatable. If they are things that one can replace relitively cheaply (like the watch band, for example), then replace it and give the non-V item away to either a charity, a family member, or whomever. I believe that cougar and bobsy hit the nail on the head, respectively, in saying "If you throw away these items, or hide them in a box in your garage, the animals who once owned the materials, would have died for nothing." and "When I can afford it I'll buy products that fit in with my ethical beliefs. I also care about the environment and it doesn't fit in with my personal beliefs to throw them away."<br><br><br><br>
But that's only my .02 FWIW. Use your own judgements and be comfortable within those judgements. Vegan is a journey, not a destination.
 

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I don't think you're being hypocritical....my opinion is to wear them out rather than waste them. But keep in mind, you'll probably get the occasional snide comment from omnis about your abstaining from eating animal products but wearing leather. But I wear fake leather and still get the comments...I've offered to show them the "man made materials" label but no one ever wants to see it. So the hell with them anyway....they're more hypocritical than anybody. Congrats on going vegan, by the way!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by stonecrest</i><br><br><b>come on.. if you replace your leather items with faux leather items, i don't think anyone would even be able to tell the difference anyway.</b></div>
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When did I suggest that she replace them with faux leather? Faux leather and faux fur were thought up by morons who didn't believe we could live without leather or fur.
 

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far as i see it i have been using my belt for years and until it breaks i wont quit wearing it. when it does i will opted for the vegan friendly hemp one or something of the sort. as for my sandals that i found today, i have been wearing them for two summers and like hell im just going to stop using them and let them go to waste. so until these things breaks i wont replace them with vegan friendly items.
 

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Good responses, debating aside, I don't feel the need to say anything. But then what's this all about then? I guess I like attention. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><br><br><br><br>
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I think it would be wasteful to throw them out. And if you can't afford to replace the things you already own, then you need to keep them anyway! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I don't think it's hypocritical at all. I still wear leather items I had before I became vegan. However, I do not buy leather items anymore. I've had people say things to me about it, but I don't really care. They usually just say things to excuse themselves from their own un-animal-friendly behavior. The point is, you can't change the past and what you purchased then and now own, so it makes no sense to do away with the stuff you have. You can only change what you do in the future. It takes a long time to veganize everything in your life - it's not an overnight thing. Amd veganizing everything is pretty hard and near impossible anyway. Just do the best you can and don't care what anyone else thinks.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by saint nick</i><br><br><b>I have recently become a vegan after only riding in the lacto-ovo boat for about a month. My main reason for becoming vegetarian is based on animal rights, so my move into veganism was only natural and inevitable. I've run into a dilemma, however. I own many leather belts, shoes, watch bands, wrist cuffs, and numerous leather cases, etc. Being a vegan, I will no longer purchase such items. My quandary upon becoming a vegan, though, was in figuring out what to do with the items I currently owned. In purchasing them, I contributed to a cruelty I feel exists and am now against. There is no way they can contribute to that cruelty anymore. But does that justify my continuing to use them? I'm not a rich person, so I can't go out and purchase a closet full of new shoes right away. And the shoes I own now will eventually wear out, start to smell, whatever, and I will then purchase animal friendly shoes, but in the meantime, am I being hypocritical?<br><br><br><br>
If you're a vegan, I would appreciate your thoughts.<br><br><br><br>
thanks,<br><br>
saint</b></div>
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One more opinion, and a welcome, since I don't remember seeing you around yet.<br><br><br><br>
When I became vegan, I knew that I wasn't going to be able to give up all the leather in my life. I have nothing against giving all your leather to good will or whatever, but I couldn't afford that either. I have bought one pair of shoes since becoming vegan, and they were leather-free.<br><br><br><br>
On the extremely rare occasion that someone asks me why I still wear leather (Shoes, belts -- I never wear my leather pants anymore, since those are a bit in-your-face), I tell them I bought them well before becoming vegan and that not wearing them accomplishes nothing. I tell them how excited I am about buying my first pair of Nagevi shoes when I can afford them, and when my current shoes wear out, and I will wear them to the point that my friends and family will be so embarrassed that they offer to buy my first pair of Nagevis!
 

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This is one of the things I mulled over when I became a vegan recently. I decided to wear them out rather than waste them because, well, I don't like wasting things. Everytime I pull out my wallet, put on my belt/shoes or sit in my car I am reminded of the unjust suffering of animals.<br><br><br><br>
People, especially those who don't understand veganism and its purpose (aka everyone), will call you on it. Their logic seems to be "If you still wear leather you might as well eat this filet mignon." Idiots.
 

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I would replace them when you can afford it, in the meantime you can still use it.<br><br><br><br>
I wouldn't call you hypocritical, but practical....you cannot change everything overnight.
 

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I'd say make use of them and when you've had them for a while, or they get worn or tatty then get rid of them. You've already bought them and paid towards the world of cruelty, you can't change that now so just continue using it until they ware. And no you're not a hypocrite...you can't be perfect!<br><br>
I have the same problem...<br><br><br><br>
I became vegan in october and bought a lovely new coat for the winter in december, without realising it was wool...<br><br><br><br>
i never saw a problem with wool so i kept wearing it..but now I ahve read up bout wool and i no longer want to wear it..but i spent £50 on it and i don't wana have to buy a new coat for next autumn and winter..what do yous think I should do??
 

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The damage is done. You have to decide hat to do now. It'd be best not to just throw them away. That's a waste. You could continue wearing them, until you wear them out. However, if you don't feel comfortable with this, you could sell your old leather on ebay or something, or donate it to a charity shop.<br><br><br><br>
But the bin would be the last place for them to go.
 
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