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Hi guys,<br><br>
I'm fairly new to veganism (3 months now I think) but was veggie for years previous. I went veggie because I was squeamish about eating flesh/dead things etc. I didn't really consider animal welfare per se. So a few months back I watched Earthlings and was just devastated, I cried like a baby for ages afterwards and declared there and then that no more, I WILL BE VEGAN and I will not use an animal product or a product tested on animals ever again.<br><br>
So in some ways, I feel so much better for being vegan, mainly healthy and relieved that I'm no longer associated with the absolute horrors involved in factory farming. But I'm now just feeling so angry about people who choose to ignore what's going on around them, why do they eat meat? Why can't they see that everything animal-related that they eat/use/wear is only in their possession thanks to untolled suffering by many animals? Why is that ok? I feel like I'm just losing respect for my loved ones and friends as they just will not try to understand. They basically just humour me, assume I'll stop soon and revert back to my old ways.<br><br>
So does this get easier? Does anyone else feel like this? How do you cope? Is it something you just put up with in the hope that one day someone might listen to you and understand?<br><br>
Apologies for the rant, I'm sure this is all old ground for everyone but I appreciate comments anyway!
 

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Yes, I think it's normal. There's not much you can do aside from advocating and doing an active part.
 

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I think most of us go through that stage.<br><br>
I was reading an article about some cartoonist my dad showed me. He's a vegetarian (not Patrick McDonnel of Mutts), and said that if he learns a person eats meat, he automatically loses a little respect for that person.<br>
I guess this can seem closed minded to many, especially non-vegs, but I can understand it. Honestly, I don't think there's anything wrong with it, either, so long as you're not being rude to those people who do eat meat or lose all respect for them.<br><br>
If you are concerned for animals, doesn't it make sense you will have more respect for people who feel the same way?<br><br>
Anyway, I try to stay open minded and considerate to all, but I definitely think it's not a terrible thing to prefer the company of other vegans. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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You just realized that you were raised by and love a bunch of mass murderers and that can't feel good. Yet, they were raised to be the way that they are and that's not their fault. So, even though I do see omnis as ignorant and barbaric in their eating habits, I still love some of them very much and just try to be a good influence on them. What else can you do?
 

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You just realized that you were raised by and love a bunch of mass murderers and that can't feel good. Yet, they were raised to be the way that they are and that's not their fault. So, even though I do see omnis as ignorant and barbaric in their eating habits, I still love some of them very much and just try to be a good influence on them. What else can you do?</div>
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I have to say that after 5+ years, some aspects get easier and some aspects don't.<br><br>
For example, my social skills around veganism are way better because it is not new to me anymore, it is who I am. I am not insecure about it and I know how to deal with holidays, dinner invites, probing questions, etc etc...<br>
However, it doesn't get easier (for me) that so many people "don't get it", that people I love (even after being around me for so long) STILL don't get it, and that I am considered extreme by most people's standards. It gets easier in the sense that it's normal for me now, but not easier in the sense that it still sucks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><br><br>
But that is why I try to surround myself with like-minded friends, hold vegan potlucks, have a vegan partner, go to animal rights events, etc... because it feels SO DARN GOOD to be around people who DO get it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Thanks for sharing guys, its made me feel much better to know how everyone else deals with these sorts of situations. I think I'm on the learning curve of veganism and I didn't realise it would throw up so many issues and emotions both for myself and my family/friends. But this is who I am and this is how I'll stay, people will come around eventually - I'm hoping!<br>
I haven't done much about seeking out other vegans in my local area but I've just joined a group that meets up occasionally so maybe that will help too.<br><br>
Cheers!
 

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ya thats definitely one stage of going veg*n. when I first went vegetarian I wanted to "share" it w/ everyone I knew, kinda like when you find an awesome band etc. you think they'll understand if you can just explain it right, and you don't understand how people you care about can't see something that's so black and white to you. I had a real hard time w/ it my first year, felt alienated sometimes.<br><br>
my advice is to just try to remember two things. First, there was a large portion of your life where you ate foodstuffs that were the result of animal cruelty until you changed. second, people are raised in a culture where animal welfare isn't even an afterthought, and by the time you try to tell them about it they've already been eating all these foods for 25 years and everyone they know has too. Hard to convince someone that nearly every meal they ever ate was a form a cruelty when that's all they know.<br><br>
It doesn't mean that you can't try to share it with them, but just don't get upset or angry at them if they aren't interested. I haven't converted anyone, although my brother finally went vegetarian a few months ago, I don't know if that was from my influence or not. Just eat healthy and represent us well and even if they don't go veg*n maybe you can show them that eating healthy can be tasty and awesome and hopefully you can still influence their diet less directly.<br><br>
hope something I said helps :p gl w/ going vegan and message me or post here if u are having any issues!
 

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I certainly believe your feelings are normal. And like Paisleyjane stated, vegan social skills do get better. Mine have. Even if it's a terse "I don't want to talk about food" if someone notices I'm eating tofu at work and makes a comment.<br><br>
People seem to eat what they conceive as normal. I did once too. They buy what is a name brand and/or advertized. I see few people reading ingredients in the stores. People just grab for whatever they want or looks good to them. Many people don't think how that product got to them. Many don't want to know. As vegans, we read ingredients like mad.<br><br>
And yes, many things you will just have to put up with and there is nothing you can do. For example the BBQ at work. I had to see everyone eating hamburgers even while working. And people asking me "did you get your hamburger?" I don't have the energy at work to get into a discussion with eat person. Or put up with their ignorant comments and questions. So I just respond "I brought my own lunch" Generic response that works.<br><br>
Not to mention all the advertizements on the TV, radio and media one has to put up with.<br><br>
Be glad however that you are vegan. I sure am.
 

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I'm going to go against the grain here and speak vegan blasphemy.<br><br>
Few of us are raised into veganism. I became a vegan at 26. For 25 years, I ate an omnivorous diet and thought myself not only acting in accordance with nature but living morally. Being that it took me many many years to finally "open my eyes", I think it the height of hypocrisy to feel irritated that others do not see the immoral reality of eating meat simply because I do do now. Is the world supposed to change because I did? Are people suddenly supposed to change their entire worldview because I did?
 

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I'm going to go against the grain here and speak vegan blasphemy.<br><br>
Few of us are raised into veganism. I became a vegan at 26. For 25 years, I ate an omnivorous diet and thought myself not only acting in accordance with nature but living morally. Being that it took me many many years to finally "open my eyes", I think it the height of hypocrisy to feel irritated that others do not see the immoral reality of eating meat simply because I do do now. Is the world supposed to change because I did? Are people suddenly supposed to change their entire worldview because I did?</div>
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This is close to how I feel. I generally try to leave my habits out of conversations. I've preached to my family, but coworkers and strangers I don't dare. The time's it's been brought up by someone else, I usually end up looking like an jerk, so I try to avoid it all together.
 

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I see your point JoBravo, I think maybe it's because veganism is new and a revelation in some ways (to me personally) that I want to share and would love it if others around me could just stop laughing for a few minutes to listen. But I don't harrass or lecture others about it, this is more about the frustrations in me that I don't let out.<br>
As I say, it's a complete shift in my lifestyle and it's going to take some getting used too, it's just I didn't quite expect the reactions of others to be this way. I'm living and learning, I'm sure there's many things others would like me to respect more and do more of, I try my best to be respectful of others but no-one is perfect.
 

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I have a hard time with this too. I'm lucky to have a sister that is vegan as well. Sometimes we get really upset when people give us a hard time, or when we see our friends and family around us that are sick and we want to help them by making them understand that it is healthier to eat a plant-based diet. I am glad that I have her to vent to when I get frustrated, because she knows how I feel.<br><br>
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I'm going to go against the grain here and speak vegan blasphemy.<br><br>
Few of us are raised into veganism. I became a vegan at 26. For 25 years, I ate an omnivorous diet and thought myself not only acting in accordance with nature but living morally. Being that it took me many many years to finally "open my eyes", I think it the height of hypocrisy to feel irritated that others do not see the immoral reality of eating meat simply because I do do now. Is the world supposed to change because I did? Are people suddenly supposed to change their entire worldview because I did?</div>
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That's how I feel about society but when it comes to people close to me, like my sister, I wonder why she hasn't changed at all. I didn't expect her to become vegan just because I did but I thought over time I would have some influence on her diet.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>JoBravo</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3081449"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'm going to go against the grain here and speak vegan blasphemy.<br><br>
Few of us are raised into veganism. I became a vegan at 26. For 25 years, I ate an omnivorous diet and thought myself not only acting in accordance with nature but living morally. Being that it took me many many years to finally "open my eyes", I think it the height of hypocrisy to feel irritated that others do not see the immoral reality of eating meat simply because I do do now. Is the world supposed to change because I did? Are people suddenly supposed to change their entire worldview because I did?</div>
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I dunno, I don't think it would be <i>that</i> hypocritical for Edward Norton's character in <i>American History X</i> to feel frustration about his little brother's political beliefs, even though Norton's character himself was a stubborn adherent of that ideology and practice for such a long time, and only now became a convert for the opposite kind of thinking. I do think, though, that by acknowledging his own past, Norton's character can better understand his brother's mindset and find ways to get through to him.
 

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It's not hypocritical to be a former smoker and be against smoking. I don't see why it would be hypocritical to be a former meat-eater and be against meat-eating and be irritated by meat-eaters who can't empathize with the plight of animals or the environment etc.
 

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I'm glad that there's the explanation of thread content in parenthesis in the thread title, because when I read "<i>Is this normal??!</i>", I thought the thread would be about something like seeing constantly recurring dreams about a dancing, naked Elijah Wood and asking if that medical condition is related to becoming veg*n.
 

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That's how I feel about society but when it comes to people close to me, like my sister, I wonder why she hasn't changed at all. I didn't expect her to become vegan just because I did but I thought over time I would have some influence on her diet.</div>
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I'm curious. Was there a single person in your life who convinced you, either through direct dialogue or by example, to become a vegan? If not, could you have become a vegan because of a single person's example in your life?
 

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It's not hypocritical to be a former smoker and be against smoking.</div>
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This was a poor analogy. No one suggested that it would be hypocritical to be against eating meat after becoming a vegan, not even in the slightest.
 
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