Is anyone else totally horrified by foie gras?

spa_girl · Jun 10, 2003

I wasn't sure if this belonged in this forum or not, but here it is. 
I was just reading some stuff that PETA has done to get foie gras off the menu at some recent charity galas, and I happened across the website for the #1 producer of the stuff: <a href="http://www.hudsonvalleyfoiegras.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.hudsonvalleyfoiegras.com/index.html</a> I don't know how this guy Michael Ginor can sleep at night. He's even published a book called "Foie Gras: A Passion". The only thing this guy has a passion for is animal abuse. 
Here's some info on foie gras: <a href="http://www.peta.org/mc/facts/fsveg9.html" target="_blank">http://www.peta.org/mc/facts/fsveg9.html</a> <a href="http://www.satyamag.com/may00/rosenberg.html" target="_blank">http://www.satyamag.com/may00/rosenberg.html</a> 
I feel outraged whenever I hear someone talking about how delicious it is. Doesn't anybody care about what they put into their bodies or how it got on their plate?!? 
Sorry. Rant over.

Lenore · Jun 10, 2003

I think I am going to be very, very ill now.

skarrlett · Jun 10, 2003

Before I knew anything about it, I just assumed it was just regular duck livers. Then I read more about it.. I was pretty much shocked. I had no idea and I'm sure that most people don't either.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

that is so gross<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:">

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

I feel outraged that an author would suggest defacing a book to make it unsellable...

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

Yeah, damaging a book. What a truly awful crime that it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by Omega Yeah, damaging a book. What a truly awful crime that it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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Glad to see you agree with me...oh, that was sarcasm, wasn't it?

RGR · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by Johnny Mayberry I feel outraged that an author would suggest defacing a book to make it unsellable...</div>
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Where does he *suggest* defacing a book to make it unsaleable? I'm sure I missed that part.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

(Just as an aside...this IS bad. I know it is. Nevertheless, suggesting illegal activity isn't so hot either.)

epski · Jun 10, 2003

[sarcasm]someone forgot the sarcasm tags![/sarcasm] 
Yeah, foie gras should be outlawed before all other foods, primarily because it's the easiest to argue that there's no way to perform this procedure humanely.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by epski [sarcasm]someone forgot the sarcasm tags![/sarcasm] 
Yeah, foie gras should be outlawed before all other foods, primarily because it's the easiest to argue that there's no way to perform this procedure humanely.</div>
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Does it beat veal?

RGR · Jun 10, 2003

Johnny, you must've missed my question to you above. 
Where does the author *suggest* defacing a book to make it unsaleable? I assume you're referring to Jack Rosenberger's article? 
From what I gathered, he was actually cautioning animal rights proponents not to ruin the book in the heat of their anger.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by RGR Johnny, you must've missed my question to you above. 
Where does the author *suggest* defacing a book to make it unsaleable? I assume you're referring to Jack Rosenberger's article? 
From what I gathered, he was actually cautioning animal rights proponents not to ruin the book in the heat of their anger.</div>
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Uh huh...could be read both ways, I first saw it as a backhanded sort of *wink wink* suggestion, like it wouldn't be a bad idea to tear a few pages.

RGR · Jun 10, 2003

Maybe you were reading a bit too much into it? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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No doubt he (and many other activists) might have wanted to deface the book and render it unsaleable, but he certainly isn't encouraging anyone to sally forth and do so. To me, he's simply stating what many AR advocates would like to do, but had better not.

epski · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by Johnny Mayberry Does it beat veal?</div>
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Is that a joke, Johnny? You are dry, aren't you?

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by epski Is that a joke, Johnny? You are dry, aren't you?</div>
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Absolutely arid... 
But, seriously, I was asking if it is worse treatment than what baby cows get to make them into veal.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

*pictures a person beating a baby cow with a duck*

epski · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by Johnny Mayberry Absolutely arid... 
But, seriously, I was asking if it is worse treatment than what baby cows get to make them into veal.</div>
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You're splitting hairs.

GhostUser · Jun 10, 2003

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<div class="quote-block">Originally posted by epski You're splitting hairs.</div>
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No, I'm asking a question...at least I thought I was. I know both are bad, I was curious if one was qualitatively worse.

Thalia · Jun 10, 2003

Yes, I think Johnny is indeed asking an honest question. I don't think there is a good way to assess which is worse. 
I saw this book a long while back and was repulsed by it. I wanted to vomit. It reminded me of my ex. Again, I wanted to vomit. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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But my ex came from a "middle" class family that ate such things for Thanksgiving (an 8 course dinner at a fancy NY restaurant.) as Goose stuffed with plums stuffed with foie gras. 
My ex, being a lover of French culture had no qualms about this. He also thought I was over reacting when I said I would never share a dinner with Foie Gras at the table. Not only does it offend me bc of how it is made, but it is animal cruelty for a food that very few people can afford, so it's not like one can argue that it is necessary for sustenance of the common man. It is an appetizer in many cases. 
The fact that he had no problems with that sickened me. (Again, I want to throw up.) 
Back to that day at the book store... I found that they had several cookbooks on display. I replaced some of the meat ones with vegetarian ones. (Did not destroy the Foie Gras Passion, or whatever, but I may have hidden it behind some other books.)

Is anyone else totally horrified by foie gras?

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