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What is the MAIN slant of your ideology in a few words (if possible)? For instance, animal welfare, animal rights, animal liberation, health, and environmental reasons are a few of the possible choices that could describe your main views or concerns.<br><br><br><br>
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Moral consideration for beings appropriate for their degree of sentience, ability to suffer, self-awareness.<br><br><br><br>
(but that is just the animal part of my ideology, I have many more. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> )
 

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I am a couch potato and I love fried tofu...not in it for the health. The environment is a side benefit. I am vegan so as not to partake in animal suffering.
 

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for me it's in this order,<br><br>
#1 for the animals; animal liberation, reduce animal suffering<br><br>
#2 for my health, it improved drastically after kicking the meat and dairy habit<br><br>
#3 environment and other reasons ....
 

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At the risk of being jeered, I have to say animal <i>welfare</i>. I can't very well say "animal rights" when, in fact, I eat eggs and drink milk.
 

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ending my part in contributing to the suffering of all living beings is my main perogative where it is possible, and within the constraints of making sure i live a healthy, safe, and mostly comfortable existance. i recognize that not everyone is on the same path i am, and that health, safety and comfort are relative concepts depending largely on many factors including economics, lifestyle, and beliefs.
 

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1. animal rights<br><br><br><br>
2. environmental<br><br><br><br>
3. health (more of a side effect but i'm pretty health concious either way..)
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Molly</i><br><br><b>At the risk of being jeered, I have to say animal <i>welfare</i>. I can't very well say "animal rights" when, in fact, I eat eggs and drink milk.</b></div>
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Why would you be jeered? We're nice here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> And in fact, I'm a vegan, and in it for the animal <i>welfare</i>, not the <i>rights</i> aspect. I just don't want to contribute to any suffering. I could discuss my philosophies on rights and whether or not animals have them, but I won't at this time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I must admit I went vegan initially because I truly believe it's the healthiest diet (if you don't eat junk foods). So that's my number one reason. But as I learned more, I incorporated more aspects that I believe are just as important.<br><br><br><br>
1. Health (avoid heart disease/cancer, pesticides, mad cow disease, etc...)<br><br>
2. Animal rights/liberation/etc...<br><br>
3. Environment<br><br>
4. Vegan diet is better for humankind (more food availability/sustainability, more peaceful)
 

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1. don't condone the imorral/irresposible behaviour of the "meat industry" etc.<br><br><br><br>
2. I want to live an extremly long life. Vegans live an average of 14 years longer.<br><br><br><br>
3. It takes 10x as much food stuffs to make meat than if we all just ate the grain. animals are very ineficeint at turing grain in to meat.<br><br><br><br>
4. only problem is finding me a vegan lady, now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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"I want to live an extremly long life. Vegans live an average of 14 years longer."<br><br><br><br>
magates, how do you know this?
 

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a recent study of people in some where near egnland or somthing showed that the vegans thered lived an average of 14 years longer than the average population. I've read this several places and herad it a number of times.
 

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Magates,<br><br>
Is that generalizable to the entire vegan population? If not, then it sounds like being vegan AND living in that place is the way to go!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
My ideology:<br><br>
1. reducing suffering (I agreed with what Kat said)<br><br>
2. environment<br><br>
3. health<br><br>
4. no taste for meat except for breaded shrimp
 

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Yes, I can backup Magates on this one. I've consistently read that vegans live 14 years longer than average. They also have 135 average cholesterol, opposed to 167 for vegetarians, and much higher for meat eaters. Numbers may be off by a few points, but you get the gist.<br><br><br><br>
Of course, there will always be vegans who live on junk food like chips and soda for example, so just being vegan doesn't assure you of being healthy of course.<br><br><br><br>
If you want definite sources, I can provide em. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I would assume that most strict vegetarians live in poor countries and are vegetarian because meat is too expensive. I would also assume that due to poverty, they would have a shorter than average life span and it would be difficult to know what roll "veganism" played in it's length. No?<br><br><br><br>
Isn't veganism for the affluent a relatively new thing?<br><br><br><br>
The average US woman lives to be nearly 80...are you saying that the average vegan woman in the US should live to be 94?<br><br>
I am not arguing about any of this...just curious.
 
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