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are there any more of you in here?<br><br>
intactivist- person who believes babys should not be circumcized and trys to educate/stop people from doing this<br><br>
lactivist- person who believes all babies need breast milk for as long as possible no matter what<br><br>
cruncy mom - mom who does alot of this stuff if not all of it. attachment parenting, gentle disclipine, cosleeping, cloth diapering, breastfeeding, extended breastfeeding, delayed introduction of solids, no vaxing, selective delayed vaxing, homeschooling, home birthing, homemade baby food making, organic/natural food buying, gardening, composting, recycling, etc
 

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That was me! My child is 18 now though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I considered myself a "Holistic Mom" or "Hippie Nouveau".
 

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Danger! Danger! The number of neologisms per post has been exceeded.
 

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I don't like hearing anybody doing 'activism' to tell other parents, usually women, how to raise their kids. I'm making a distinction between activism and information here, by the way. Unless the kid is in danger, it's really none of your business. I have seen really cruel behaviour from 'lactivists' to other mums <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Earthling</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2906864"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I don't like hearing anybody doing 'activism' to tell other parents, usually women, how to raise their kids. I'm making a distinction between activism and information here, by the way. Unless the kid is in danger, it's really none of your business. I have seen really cruel behaviour from 'lactivists' to other mums <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></div>
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This. I recognize the importance of breast feeding, etc and how we view these things overall as a society. But I refuse to judge individual moms for individual choices.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>*AHIMSA*</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2906804"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
That was me! My child is 18 now though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I considered myself a "Holistic Mom" or "Hippie Nouveau".</div>
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To clarify, I was saying I was "Crunchy" but prefer the other terms I listed.
 

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I don't like hearing anybody doing 'activism' to tell other parents, usually women, how to raise their kids. I'm making a distinction between activism and information here, by the way. Unless the kid is in danger, it's really none of your business. I have seen really cruel behaviour from 'lactivists' to other mums <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></div>
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I'm crunchy. But I lean towards mainstream. For example, I gave up on cloth diapers when babes was 6 months. And we don't cosleep. But I would breastfeed a bio child. And in general I'm an attachment-based parent.
 

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earthling and kibbleforA WHAT IF diabetes and obesity and allergies and illnesses were linked to formula feeding. each mom is gonna make her own decisions but she needs to be informed. formula is made of crap and not meant for human babies. if a woman cant produce enough milk she can get milk from other moms. if she doesnt like nursing she can pump, babies need breastmilk. theres a huge milksharing program called human milk for human babies and it links up moms with extra milk with moms without any. theres no reason for any baby to be on formula anymore. and what about government programs paying for formula for babies when breastmilk is free? not cool!
 

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Breast milk is a body fluid and I would really be very hesitant to allow my child to drink it from anyone but me or a very close friend or relative whose lifestyle, habits and disease status I am certain of and align with. Even then, I am not sure I'd be comfortable with it.<br><br>
I am aware of programs that screen and such, still, I would not be comfortable with this.<br><br>
If I were to adopt, I would do all I could to induce lactation myself (even men can lactate!).
 

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I met Hannibal Lecter once and he said I'm pretty crunchy too. Not a mom though.
 

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Oh, Seven! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wideeyed.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":boobies:">
 

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earthling and kibbleforA WHAT IF diabetes and obesity and allergies and illnesses were linked to formula feeding. each mom is gonna make her own decisions but she needs to be informed. formula is made of crap and not meant for human babies. if a woman cant produce enough milk she can get milk from other moms. if she doesnt like nursing she can pump, babies need breastmilk. theres a huge milksharing program called human milk for human babies and it links up moms with extra milk with moms without any. theres no reason for any baby to be on formula anymore. and what about government programs paying for formula for babies when breastmilk is free? not cool!</div>
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This is exactly the kind of judgemental crap I was talking about <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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"If a woman can't produce enough milk she can get milk from other moms." This is just simply not true in some areas, both because of availability and because of cost. My other half and I have discussed a couple of times what we will do if I'm not able to breastfeed the bean for some reason. There is a milk bank right here in Oxford, but the milk is given to premature/ill babies at the local hospital. There's also a small UK group called MilkShare that aims to match up nursing mothers with those in need, but it's largely luck if you can find a match in your area. Even in the States, particularly if you're in a rural/small town area, finding available milk may not be an easy task.<br><br>
Now, I'm 100% for breast feeding. I've worked with lots and lots of moms of new babies, and encouraged all of them to give breast feeding a go, and to keep on if they can. However, if it's not working out for them, I don't see them as a bad mother or abusing their child or any of that other bull****.<br><br>
This zealotry is the trouble I have some times when interacting with "crunchy" moms sometimes. I get snickered at on the mainstream message board I visit for being too granola, but then when I run into the AP group moms here at the library, I'm made ever so slightly to feel like the minion of Satan because I work as a nanny. Both girls have strong relationships with their parents, are happy and healthy, and I love them both immensely, but I'm part of the "problem" because of course children shouldn't be in any sort of non-parental care.<br><br>
There are lots of "alternative parenting" ideas that I've encouraged with the girls, and plan to continue with my old child(ren). I don't think any of them are going to need therapy though because I pushed them in a stroller sometimes or because they used disposable diapers.
 

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"Crunchy Moms", I have never heard that expression before.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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"Crunchy Moms", I have never heard that expression before.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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So you <i>have</i> heard "intactivist"? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">
 

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So you <i>have</i> heard "intactivist"? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></div>
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Yes, I'm saving that name for my first born child.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:">
 

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If I were to adopt, I would do all I could to induce lactation myself (even men can lactate!).</div>
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Just so you know, even if you were successful at inducing lactation you would still probably have to supplement with formula or donor breastmilk. It's very difficult to induce lactation, especially if you've never breastfed before.<br><br>
I believe breast is best and if I had a biobaby I would breastfeed. But I do not feel guilty (anymore) for choosing formula for my son. He's developing as expected. We did the attachment parenting "bottle nursing" (where you hold baby like you're breastfeeding, look in his eyes, have skin-to-skin contact) which is a large part of the benefits of breastfeeding (it's not just nutrition! It's emotional connection.)<br><br>
And, well, it just comes down to priorities. I could have said I won't adopt unless I can breastfeed (which basically isn't allowed in most fostercare) but that doesn't help the millions of kids who need adoptive or foster homes (thousands in the US and millions worldwide).
 
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