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Good morning/afternoon/evening/whenever you happen upon this thread, my name is Jessica and I've decided just three days ago to become a vegetarian. I'll be honest, I'm not much of animal person. I may not love animals, but I do have a major moral problem with the inhumane treatment of living creatures for the sake of meat production/entertainment/clothing. I would have made this change long ago had I been more informed and aware about the abuse that allegedly occurs quite often before those animals become someone's food. I guess I always gave the meat industry the benefit of the doubt and just assumed that the animals were treated humanely and didn't experience any suffering. I think it's safe to say I was exercising blind faith.<br><br><br><br>
I felt called to make this lifestyle change after viewing PETA's infamous "Meet Your Meat" video. I have to say, after hours and hours of study on the PETA and other cruelty-free informational sites, I'm still a wee bit skeptical about just how accurate and authentic their statistics and statements are considering their obvious bias. However, after watching said video, and determining that the circumstances and the statistics could have been exaggerated beyond belief, I was still convicted to go veggie because even if those claims are only 10% accurate, I want nothing to do with supporting this inhumane treatment of live animals even if it's only in one of then cases. So, I'm basically now a vegetarian because after a lot of health study I've learned that meat is not necessary and even if it were, I'm convinced that abuse and cruelty aren't necessary in providing people with meat. I just refuse to keep supporting the meat industry now that I'm privy to their antics.<br><br><br><br>
I was also really encouraged by the studies that found most vegetarians experience a major boost in energy, reduction in cholestoral, reduction in body fat, better digestion, etc. So, I figure there's no reason not to become vegetarian and not a single compelling reason to remain a meat-eater. Until I'm presented with information that proves meat's necessary and there's a painless way to go about providing people with meat- I'll remain a vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
Eventually I think I'd really like to become a vegan, but I don't want to sabatoge myself by jumping the gun here. People have already stated that giving up meat and seafood cold turkey is a major first step that isn't typically recommended a new vegetarian make. But after seeing the treatment of the egg-laying hens and the dairy cows...I have to say, I'm really repulsed and heartbroken and I feel like it's probably only right to use eggs or milk from hens and cows if they're you're on and you've treated them with respect and honor. I'm not so worried about being able to give up actual milk and eggs in their whole form so much as I worry about having to give up countless foods and products containing them as ingredients. Anyway, just throwing the fact that I realize that going vegan is probably the ultimate goal in an anti-cruelty human's life, and I'd like to one day ease into that lifestyle.<br><br><br><br>
So, thanks for reading my long-winded post and for any feedback or information you may offer in response. = ) Oh, before I go, I have a few questions for studied vegetarians/vegans!<br><br><br><br>
1) I keep seeing pasta listed in "vegan" recipes- but isn't pasta made using eggs?<br><br>
2) Do vegans abstain from honey simply because it's an animal product, or are bees in any way actually mistreated or killed off in order for humans to utilize their honey?<br><br>
3) Are there any major vegan substitutes for eggs?<br><br>
4) Could anyone please direct me to some more objectional sites that explore the treatment of animals in factory farms? Or just recommended informational sites in general would be excellent.<br><br>
5) What's the best benefit you've experienced as a result of changing your meat-eating diet?<br><br><br><br>
Again, thanks so much for reading my ramblings and for any feedback you have to offer.<br><br><br><br>
Peace and wellness,<br><br><br><br>
Jessica
 

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congratulations on deciding to go vegetarian, and welcome to VB! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:"> I'll try and answer your questions as best I can, though I'm no expert.<br><br><br><br><b>1) I keep seeing pasta listed in "vegan" recipes- but isn't pasta made using eggs?</b><br><br>
fresh pasta is made using eggs, bust most dried pasta of the kind you buy in shops will not be made using eggs. Obviously, always label read!<br><br><br><br><b>2) Do vegans abstain from honey simply because it's an animal product, or are bees in any way actually mistreated or killed off in order for humans to utilize their honey?</b><br><br>
I don't have sources, so I'll just have to repeat things I've heard on VB and leave you to do your own research if you want to know more. So I don't know how true this is, but I've heard in commercial beekeeping entire hives are destroyed at the end of every year (or maybe 2), and that when honey is removed it is replaced with nutritionally-not-as-good-for-bees sugarwater. Also, obviously, it's pretty much impossible to open and close hives without squishing bees, this happens even with hobbyists. And many vegans are opposed to the exploitation of bees even if they could be kept without harming them.<br><br><br><br><b>3) Are there any major vegan substitutes for eggs?</b><br><br>
Not really for eggs in their whole form, i.e. fried eggs, boiled eggs. There are numerous different methods of replacing eggs when baking, and some recipes to make stuff similar to 'egg salad' for sandwiches, etc.<br><br><br><br><b>4) Could anyone please direct me to some more objectional sites that explore the treatment of animals in factory farms? Or just recommended informational sites in general would be excellent.</b><br><br>
haha, I don't really know any. That stuff depresses me.<br><br><br><br><b>5) What's the best benefit you've experienced as a result of changing your meat-eating diet?</b><br><br>
peace of mind. I don't feel bad about my food choices since going vegan. I would go so far as to say I feel pride in them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:">
 

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Hi Jessica!<br><br><br><br>
Nice introductory post! I'll start by answering some of your questions - but other members will have more info on some of the questions and I'll leave that to those who know more than I do.<br><br><br><br>
1) There are no eggs in most pastas - lasagna, spaghetti, penne noodles - those are fine. Egg noodles, though, have eggs. Check your labels, I'm sure you'll be pleased at how many pasta options you have!<br><br><br><br>
2) Both - vegans don't use animals products, and bees are harmed in the collection of honey<br><br><br><br>
3) egg substitutes - "Egg Replacer" (Ener-g, I think is the brand), tofu, applesauce, ground flaxseeds mixed with water. These are all egg substitues. Depending on what you want to make, check our recipe thread to see how the substitutions are made. "Vegan with a Vengeance" is one of the most popular cookbooks around and Isa Markowitz (sp?) has a section on egg replacements within.<br><br><br><br>
4) I'll leave this to others - I don't visit them regularly anymore.<br><br><br><br>
5) Peace of mind, first and foremost! But I've recently noticed some other amazing changes. I've been vegan for almost two years now and here are my benefits: I don't look any where near my age (I'm 46, and no one can believe it), my skin is radiant!, my weight is low/normal and steady no matter what I eat, I have more energy than most people half my age - I run 4.5 miles nearly every day, my peri-menapause symptoms are gone, my seasonal allergies are much better, I haven't been sick (1 minor head-cold), and I have a much better sense of my place in the world.<br><br><br><br>
Welcome to VB - hang out and post in the threads. Ask more questions, and realize that veg*nism is a journey!<br><br><br><br>
Take care!
 

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Welcome, you do sound inspired and excited!! I hope the lifestyle gives you everything you want.<br><br><br><br>
I'm really properly starting on veganism now (after having been a wannabe for some time), and hopefully it'll go well!! Good luck!<br><br><br><br>
peace,<br><br><br><br>
pirate x
 

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Thank you Isowish and Poppy for clearing up the pasta issue! That's great to know! As I learn of the expansive options that remain available to vegans, I feel really hopeful about making that leap in the future. Thanks also for what you both could offer me in reference to the honey issue. That would probably be one of the only things I'd honestly miss if I were to go vegan, I've always loved honey- in my oatmeal, on my toast, and in my tea. But we'll see in time how I choose to approach veganism. Thanks for the information in the meantime! Thanks Poppy, for the EnerG recommendation! I already looked into them and have since found the use of their egg-replacers in various dishes I'm interested in learning to cook.<br><br><br><br>
Both of your answers to number 4 were especially inspiring and encouraging! I already feel a sense of peace just about the decision, I'll bet living it out continuously is ever so rewarding. = ) Can't wait to keep up with this and enjoy the physical and spiritual benefits.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the warm welcome from all of you, and congratulations Piratemoon, on the leap to veganism!
 

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On the honey thing, here's a link:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
--Fromper<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
 

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Welcome!
 

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Thanks Amy and Pirate. = ) Currently enjoying my first very own Jessica-made vegetarian meal. Delightful. Lol, don't be too impressed, it's just some simple sauteed vegetables in pasta and sauce. I added a bit of cheese cause I was in need of some protein. But that was the only animal product I ate all day. I feel good about that. = ) One day at a time I figure.<br><br><br><br>
What's really exciting is that since I've made this change(only FIVE days ago) several of my friends have been inspired to start taking steps in the same animal-friendly direction.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks again for all the welcoming and encouragement!
 

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tofu works well for a replacment for scrambled eggs, egg salad and such<br><br>
also theres egg replacer for baking.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.ener-g.com/store/detail.aspx?sn=MilkAndEggSubstitutes&id=97&cat=8" target="_blank">http://www.ener-g.com/store/detail.a...es&id=97&cat=8</a>
 

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Congratulations -how you feel is basically exatly the same as me - authough ive been pescetarian and then vegetarian for 1 year - and now im beginning ot htink about veganism seriously!<br><br>
good luck!!!!<br><br>
i konw honey is the main thing i will miss !!! in my Chai TEA!!! ahhhhhh<br><br>
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4) Could anyone please direct me to some more objectional sites that explore the treatment of animals in factory farms? Or just recommended informational sites in general would be excellent.<br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarming.com/gallery.htm" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.com/gallery.htm</a><br><br>
part of <a href="http://www.farmsanctuary.com" target="_blank">www.farmsanctuary.com</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/" target="_blank">http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/</a> (some bad pictures, but mostly good for it's ideas.)<br><br><br><br>
5) What's the best benefit you've experienced as a result of changing your meat-eating diet?<br><br>
The first thing was freedom from some of the guilt.<br><br>
physically- less yucky feelings after meals such as fatigue, indigestion, and heartburn (which I pretty much never get any more.)<br><br>
Certainly no constipation!<br><br>
When I do get sick, it's less severe. I think this may be due to a reduction in dairy products (which I still use but in much smaller quantities.)<br><br><br><br>
Some side benefits- discover new foods like Indian, Thai, new veggies and fruits. Cats and dogs less likely to beg for food off of your plate, less grease in the pots and pans, can skip entire sections of the grocery store. Fewer fears of food poisoning (although produce can harbor e coli from manure run-off, wash em!) No longer have to find a way to pull that weird rubbery peice of meat out of your mouth at a nice dinner. Can put most everything in the compost heap.
 

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Welcome and congrats on becoming vegetarian!<br><br><br><br><b>1) I keep seeing pasta listed in "vegan" recipes- but isn't pasta made using eggs?</b><br><br><br><br>
Fresh pasta is often made with eggs, but dried pasta usually isn't.<br><br><br><br><b>2) Do vegans abstain from honey simply because it's an animal product, or are bees in any way actually mistreated or killed off in order for humans to utilize their honey?</b><br><br><br><br>
I don't know many details about this, but as others have said, bees are killed in the production of honey.<br><br><br><br><b>3) Are there any major vegan substitutes for eggs?</b><br><br><br><br>
Depends what you're wanting them for (baking/omelette/quiche etc), there are different ingredients which can replace eggs for different purposes (if that makes sense). <a href="http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html" target="_blank">http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html</a> has a good explanation about replacing eggs in baking.<br><br><br><br><b>4) Could anyone please direct me to some more objectional sites that explore the treatment of animals in factory farms? Or just recommended informational sites in general would be excellent.</b><br><br><br><br>
The RSPCA (UK animal welfare organisation) do not promote vegetarianism, so their information is bias-free in that respect. <a href="http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=FarmAnimalsReportsandResources" target="_blank">http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Cont...tsandResources</a><br><br><br><br><b>5) What's the best benefit you've experienced as a result of changing your meat-eating diet?</b><br><br><br><br>
A feeling of peace from knowing that no creatures were intentionally killed so that I could eat.
 

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Congratulations of going veg. :]<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, I highly recommend watching Earthlings whether you're a new or old veggie.<br><br>
Great documentary.
 

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Thank you all for the advice and encouragement! And a special thanks to Thalia for the informational links!<br><br><br><br>
12 days vegetarian now and still loving it!
 
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