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<p>Hi Fromper,</p>
<p>Some effective tips for you to treat insomnia.</p>
<p>Do exercise regularly and early and make a<span style="font-family:times, serif;font-size:15px;line-height:normal;"> schedule of sleeping and awaking. </span><span style="font-family:times, serif;font-size:15px;line-height:normal;">Deal with obvious sleep disturbances and </span><span style="font-family:times, serif;font-size:15px;line-height:normal;">check your medications. Avoid caffeine, cigarettes and alcohol and avoid eating anything 1 hour before going to bed. </span></p>
 

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Since losing my job, my sleep schedule has gotten even more messed up than usual. Not having something forcing me to stay on schedule has allowed me to stay up just a little later and sleep a little later every day. I've tried sleeping pills a couple of times to try and get back on track, but it hasn't worked. I think I may need to need to skip sleeping altogether one night, just so I get tired and go to sleep early the following evening. And since it's currently past 4 AM, this looks like it might be the night to do it, except that I am finally starting to get tired. Now I can go to bed and sleep past noon.<br><br>
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<p>Hiya :)</p>
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<p>I'm also an insomniac. Most of the time, I end up getting so frustrated with myself I end up hitting the wall. Yesterday, I woke up with a bruised wrist :(.</p>
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<p>I usually get that feeling wherein my body is exhausted and I can tell, but my head <em>doesn't </em>feel sleepy. I call it being tired but not sleep-ready.</p>
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<p>What seems to work quite well for me is not too healthy, so I'm not actually sure if I'd recommend it.</p>
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<p>I am on Xanax for anxiety, and I find that taking my nightime Xanax with a few glasses of red wine usually sends me to sleepydom about an hour later.</p>
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<p>No sleeping pills have ever helped me.</p>
 

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I usually get that feeling wherein my body is exhausted and I can tell, but my head <i>doesn't </i>feel sleepy. I call it being tired but not sleep-ready.<br></div>
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Yeah, that happens to me a lot, including right now. I think of it in terms of my mind and my body not being tired at the same time. If my mind's tired enough, I fall asleep. But if the body's sleepy, and the mind isn't, then I can't sleep.<br><br>
Currently almost 2 AM here. I've been staying up this late regularly lately. Since losing my job, it just hasn't been a priority to go to bed early or wake up early most days, and that's messed me up. But this morning (yesterday morning at this point), I had a reason to wake up early, so I ended up with only 5 hours sleep last night, and I'm extra tired tonight, but I just can't sleep. <img alt="sad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
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New kitty is destroying what was becoming a decent sleep pattern. Guess I can't really call that insomnia. But I'm tired, awake and I can't sleep. <img alt="sad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/sad.gif">
 

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<p>Mine vanished the week I stopped eating dairy. Some people I know who aren't overly keen on veganism, feel that it was 'cured' by becoming malnourished and exhausted, but I don't think so. <br><br>
I still get it with PMS though and don't really sleep for 2 or 3 days. :I</p>
 

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<p>I have been suffering from aching joints the last few months and I'm wondering if it's related to my insomnia. I did sprain my wrist a few weeks ago and I had knee surgery last year but my other  joints have been hurting too. I feel like I haven't had a decent night's sleep in decades.<span id="user_yui_3_5_1_1_1349398323133_1709"><img alt="bigcry.gif" id="user_yui_3_5_1_1_1349398323133_1711" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/bigcry.gif"></span></p>
 

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I've been doing great the last couple of months at falling asleep. I think I've just been getting so much extra exercise from cleaning, packing, moving, unpacking, and starting a new job with a lot of walking as part of my daily commute (10 minute walk to the train stations at both ends) that I'm wearing myself out.<br><br>
So I'm falling asleep easily, which has usually been my problem in the past. But I've started this new thing of waking up after 5-6 hours and having trouble falling back asleep. If it's a day when I don't have to wake up early, it's not a big deal, because I end up staying awake 2-3 hours, then fall back asleep for another 2-3 hours, resulting in a full 7-8 hours of sleep for the night. But now that I'm working again and have to be up early every morning, that's not really an option any more. Last night, I woke up 3 hours before my alarm would have gone off. I tried to go back to sleep and gave up 2 hours later. By the time the alarm really did go off, I was finally feeling tired enough to go back to sleep successfully, but I didn't have enough time to do so, which means I'm now going through the day tired from only getting a partial night's sleep. <img alt="sad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
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<p>hmm I wish I could stay up. I USE to be able to stay up until all hours of the night. But by 9 and 10 at night I'm totally exhausted. And my day's are boring I don't do anything. So I guess my issue has to do with getting tired  WAY before I should be.<br>
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Bah. Fighting off a cold, and the insomnia issues are back. You'd think I'd be getting extra sleep while sick, but I somehow managed to only get 3 hours of sleep last night. Tonight, I went to bed and slept for 3 hours, then woke up, and now I'm not tired, so I can't sleep again. <img alt="sad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
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I have always struggled with my insomnia. I had a car accident two years ago and it got worse. I was then diagnosed with fms , cfs , ptsd depression and anxiety so i don't know if that has anything to do with it. I am also on alot of pain medication and i take sleeping tablets every night and even then i am lucky to fall asleep before 5am. However since taking meat out of my diet it has improved. For the last two nights i haven't had to take sleeping tablets so hopefully it Will carry on
 

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Bah. Fighting off a cold, and the insomnia issues are back. You'd think I'd be getting extra sleep while sick, but I somehow managed to only get 3 hours of sleep last night. Tonight, I went to bed and slept for 3 hours, then woke up, and now I'm not tired, so I can't sleep again. <img alt="sad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
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This is becoming a trend. Besides the fact that the "cold" I've been fighting off still hasn't gone away, I just woke up at 2:40 AM after only 3 hours of restless sleep, and I'm not tired.<br><br>
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<p>I am sorry to hear that you are not sleeping with your cold. Fingers Crossed that your cold will get better and so will your sleeping</p>
 

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Still have the on and off insomnia stuff going, but it hasn't been as bad as it used to be. I think my new bed since moving here may have helped. That and the realization that I sleep better on my back if I use two pillows instead of one (something that only took me 38 years to figure out).

This week's issue is that I was sick last week (caught the flu that was going around), and used Niquil at night, to clear up my nose and help me sleep. After four days in a row of that, I think I got addicted to it as a sleep aid, and I had trouble sleeping without it last night. I ended up staying up until 3:30 AM, and waking up at 7:30, which is REALLY bad, since I have an 8 AM train to catch for work. So the adrenaline of running late helped me wake up, but I'm tired now, a few hours later.

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I stay up too late too hehe...Am a night owl ;)
 

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So now I've got a new problem with my insomnia. It used to be that I always had trouble falling asleep, but once I was out, I slept all night. And I've occasionally had issues with only sleeping 5 hours at a time, instead of the necessary 7-8.

But the last week or so, I've not only had trouble falling asleep, but also been waking up after only 2-3 hours, then having trouble getting back to sleep. So I'm not sleeping through the night. And it's really screwing me up.

I've stopped drinking soda for reasons of weight loss, so I haven't had any caffiene in weeks. But I think I need to exercise more. I'm betting that if I exercised seriously, I'd wear myself out enough to sleep through the night. I just need to find time, energy, and motivation to actually exercise daily.

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@ Fromper, yes try exercising as this might help you sleep better :)
 

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If you wake up every 2-3 hours it's your active brain waking you up. Do you get anxiety, depression or generally worry too much?
Have you tried Prozac or Citalopram?
 

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If you wake up every 2-3 hours it's your active brain waking you up. Do you get anxiety, depression or generally worry too much?
Have you tried Prozac or Citalopram?
No on all counts. No anxiety or depression (recently). And no, I haven't tried those medications.

But my brain does tend to be overactive. I've suspected for years that I have ADD, but I've never really done anything about it. I just naturally came up with some coping mechanisms over the years, mostly based on being obsessive-compulsive about certain planning behaviors to make sure I don't forget to do things.

So good news, bad news tonight. The good news is that I didn't wake up after only 2-3 hours of sleep. The bad news is that's because it's currently 3:15 AM and I haven't fallen asleep in the first place. :(

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Oh dear... Citalopram which I believe is Prozac in the us will help a lot to regulate your sleeping pattern. If you don't want chemicals then you could try valerian, they say 2 tabs but Its safe to use 4 about an hour before bed, use for 30 days to get into a good sleeping pattern. I know some people use pain killers or night nurse (cold a flu remedy in the uk) to make themselves drowsy, but I would not recommend as if you are prepared to go for chemicals Citalopram is a lot more effective and it doesn't just work short term, if taken on gp s advice for a prolonged period of time, at least 6 months, it can cure your insomnia in the long run
 
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