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So I searched and didn't find an insomnia thread. Anyone else have sleep issues?<br><br>
I've had insomnia problems my whole life. It just sort of comes and goes, and affects me differently at different times. For some reason, my sleep issues have kicked into high gear over the last 6 or 7 weeks. At one point, I took a couple of days off work and used an ambien to force myself to get enough rest, and I was ok for about a week after that, but then things went downhill again.<br><br>
I really need to go see my doctor some time soon. If nothing else, I'm almost out of ambien, so I need him to give me a refill. Also, my health insurance is changing at the end of this month, so I need to find out if my current doctor will take my new insurance. I'm not that attached, though, so if I have to change doctors, it's not a big deal.<br><br>
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So I scheduled an appointment on Tuesday with my doctor.<br><br>
Last night, I took an ambien and slept for about 11.5 hours, which is good, because I needed to catch up from some of the days when I didn't get enough sleep recently. Then I had trouble waking up in the morning, and was groggy for about 4 hours after I got out of bed. I thought I was ok this afternoon, but I'm not convinced that I'll be able to sleep normally tonight. I'm hoping to leave work early enough to go outside and exercise before the sun goes down, in the hopes of wearing myself down and sleeping better later, without taking another sleeping pill tonight.<br><br>
I remember when I first took ambien a few years ago, it didn't leave me nearly as groggy the next day as any of the other sleeping pills I'd tried, which is why I liked it best. I don't know why I'm having more problems with that recently. I'll have to bring that up with my doctor, among other things.<br><br>
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When I first got the ambien it didn't seem to work for me. I saw all those news stories about people so out of it they sleep walked/drove/ate/etc and didn't see how it could possibly happen. Now though they work fairly well. They can leave me a bit slow the next a.m. too so have to be choosy about what night I can take them. I can go three days without sleeping and I get awfully b*tchy so for the sake of the hubby & kid I need to sleep really well once in a while.
 

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I sometimes have trouble falling asleep, even with the ambien or other pills, but they do eventually put me to sleep, which is better than not sleeping at all. But once I'm out, they keep me out, which is good for the first 8 hours, but bad in that it leaves me groggy the next day, even 12-15 hours after taking the pill. That's why I usually try to avoid taking them during the week, so I won't be groggy at work the next day, but I've been bad enough lately to get desperate and take them a little more often.<br><br>
About the sleep walking on ambien thing, I actually had my first experience with that a few weeks ago. After taking the pill, I usually do a couple of other things before getting right into bed. Apparently, I checked a web forum where I'm a member and posted something, and didn't remember doing it when I saw my post the next day. Luckily, I didn't post anything weird or controversial, just a basic answer to a question, but it was still weird to see the post the next day and think "I don't remember writing that."<br><br>
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medical marijuana is my cure for insomnia <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Being ADHD I have always had troubles going to bed. I've found it harder to fall asleep since switching to an all plant diet. I think its because i'm getting more calories from natural sources - mainly from fruit, and therefor will have more energy. Theres simple techniques to help you fall asleep, personally I have found reading a chapter in any book before I go to bed. Also aromatherapy <a href="http://www.holisticonline.com/remedi...omatherapy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.holisticonline.com/remedi...omatherapy.htm</a> And its not listed on the site but if i spray my bed sheets with vanilla body spray I go to sleep easier.<br>
I dont drink caffeine 6 hours before bed and dont smoke for 20-30 mins before bed. (Both are stimulants). Also caffeine blocks vitamins from being absorbed properly.<br>
And another thing about coffee I find that when I dont sleep well one night I will drink excessive amounts of coffee during the day then obv cant fall asleep again cause i've had like 6 cups in the morning.
 

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I often have trouble falling asleep. Alchohol helps me drift off, but the quality of sleep isn't so great. I, too, have Ambien. I try not to use it too often because it makes me jittery the next day. I do have pretty good luck with 2 mgs. of melatonin, but only if I'm not stressed about something specific. If I am, it has to be Ambien for me to fall asleep.
 

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medical marijuana is my cure for insomnia <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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I was just going to say! But I was poopoo'ed in another thread for speaking of such things!<br><br>
Forget the chemically created drugs, and stay true to your plant based lifestyle.<br><br>
It's my cure for EVERYTHING.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Vegan Wannabe</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2841212"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I was just going to say! But I was poopoo'ed in another thread for speaking of such things!<br><br>
Forget the chemically created drugs, and stay true to your plant based lifestyle.<br><br>
It's my cure for EVERYTHING.</div>
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its the only thing that settles my stomach and boosts my appetite - I have a birth defect that isn't common so there aren't a lot of chemical drugs developed to treat it<br>
the one i was prescribed gave me bad side effects<br>
Also good pain killer thats not tested on animals<br>
My brother has bad chrones disease (I know if he was vegetarian it may help his symptoms but noooo meat is soooo good >.<) and it helps him too
 

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The earths gift. Why destroy your body with chemicals when such there is such an amazing alternative!
 

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Sleep? What is this sleep you speak of?<br><br><br>
I go many nights with low to no sleep then crash a lot a day or two a week.
 

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I've struggled with insomnia off and on for ages.<br><br>
It's gotten so bad I've started hallucinating during the day...<br><br>
No Rx meds seem to work properly for me. Sonata and Rozerem help me fall asleep, but I wake up roughly every half hour on them and can't get back to sleep. Lunesta leaves a nasty taste in my mouth I can't stand and doesn't work all that well anyway. Ambien makes me hallucinate. Trazadone doesn't work, period.<br><br>
I once took 42 Valium and that did the trick. So did 12 Tylenol PMs. But apparently neither of those things are good for you or your liver. OMG WHO KNEW?<br><br>
The only thing that ever really knocked me on my ass was Seroquel. But I didn't much care for taking anti-psychotics for a sleep disorder.<br><br>
So I gave up. I eventually began sleeping okay for the most part, but I still have really bad nights.<br><br>
Feh.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Vegan Wannabe</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2841275"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The earths gift. Why destroy your body with chemicals when such there is such an amazing alternative!</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> I struggled with insomnia for years, and it's the only thing that ever worked for me.
 

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Well, I won't do any illegal drugs, but I've actually considered alcohol as a possible sleep aid. I drink so rarely that I have no idea if it would make me drowsy, but I figure it can't hurt to try it. I also have no idea what type to buy - the only thing I know about alcohol is that I hate the taste of beer.<br><br>
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I have insomnia too. Someone recommended Valerian Root to me. It worked for about 3 weeks (slept pretty much right through every night) then I must have gotten used to it or something cos it wasnt -as- effective anymore.<br>
Might be worth looking into.
 

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For what it's worth, I've heard that alcohol does in fact help you fall asleep, but the quality of your sleep isnt very good so you still feel pretty much like a zombie in the morning. Like you, Fromper, I don't care for the taste of beer- so I've never tried this out myself. Anyway, I figure insomnia is less of a problem than alcoholism would be (if I were prone to it- and I have reason to think I might be).<br><br>
Anyhow- I have trouble falling asleep (and sometimes staying asleep) quite often. I find that leaving a radio on (not too loud) helps me drift off. My attention is drawn to whatever I'm listening to, instead of my mind racing about this, that, or something else. I can even fall asleep listening to "Coast To Coast"!!! (For those who aren't familiar with it, it's a late-night talk show that deals with ghosts, aliens, magic, conspiracies, etc, etc.... you get the picture. I find it merely amusing rather than unsettling.)<br><br>
I've heard that a workout earlier in the day will make it difficult to fall asleep if you exercise too soon before going to bed, but I haven't experienced this. My workouts just leave me in a warm, loose, laid-back mood.
 

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I've heard that a workout earlier in the day will make it difficult to fall asleep if you exercise too soon before going to bed, but I haven't experienced this. My workouts just leave me in a warm, loose, laid-back mood.</div>
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Exercise can sometimes get my adrenaline pumping, which makes it harder to sleep. But if I exercise 4+ hours before bed time, it should wear off by then, and in theory, expending all that energy should wear me out. But it doesn't seem to work out that way. Either exercising knocks me out rapidly so I need a nap within an hour, or not at all.<br><br>
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