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hm in english we're talking about the seven societal ills and we need to find a current event portraying one of them. since one of them is indifference, i figured i'll do something with animal rights/environmental/vegan issues. does anyone have specific ideas that would be good? when we talk about them in class i want people to be like "wow i AM taking part in an ill" since most people just think my veganism is weird.
 

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Destruction of the orangutans for palm oil plantations in Indonesia. Googling "palm oil orangutans" should get you some links.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Ludi</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Destruction of the orangutans for palm oil plantations in Indonesia. Googling "palm oil organgutans" should get you some links.</div>
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This is completely out of the blue but since you seem to know about the palm oil problem, can you say if there is in general any difference between organic and non-organic palm oil production in this respect? I've been trying to avoid products with palm oil but have seen some of them which state that it's organic.
 

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focus on environmental issues with meat and dairy.</div>
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I agree. Lots of people don't care about animals so you could focus on the extent to which raising animals for human consumption leads to human poverty in the world.
 

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Indifference to the suffering of animals on factory farms (where 99% of animal foods originate from; not that free range is any or much better, but you don't need to complicate it with more than a sentence to that effect):<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.meetyourmeat.com" target="_blank">http://www.meetyourmeat.com</a><br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarming.org" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.org</a><br><br><a href="http://www.whyvegan.com" target="_blank">http://www.whyvegan.com</a><br><br><br><br>
People always think that if THEY were around during slaveholding years, THEY would be abolitionists. Or if THEY were a german in nazi germany, THEY would be freedom fighters. At the very least, they think they would not support these things, or be participants. But their actions today towards animals show that they would go along with the crowd and mindlessly, usually defensively, participate in the worst cruelties.<br><br><br><br>
The way that people used to say, "they black" (so we can treat them as slaves), or "they're jews/gays/gypsies" (so it's o.k. to lock them up, starve them in ghettos, experiment on them), they now say, "they're just animals." Animals can suffer as we do, yet people are indifferent to the immense suffering foisted on them.
 

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Indifference to the suffering of animals on factory farms (where 99% of animal foods originate from; not that free range is any or much better, but you don't need to complicate it with more than a sentence to that effect):<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.meetyourmeat.com" target="_blank">http://www.meetyourmeat.com</a><br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarming.org" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.org</a><br><br><a href="http://www.whyvegan.com" target="_blank">http://www.whyvegan.com</a><br><br><br><br>
People always think that if THEY were around during slaveholding years, THEY would be abolitionists. Or if THEY were a german in nazi germany, THEY would be freedom fighters. At the very least, they think they would not support these things, or be participants. But their actions today towards animals show that they would go along with the crowd and mindlessly, usually defensively, participate in the worst cruelties.<br><br><br><br>
The way that people used to say, "they black" (so we can treat them as slaves), or "they're jews/gays/gypsies" (so it's o.k. to lock them up, starve them in ghettos, experiment on them), they now say, "they're just animals." Animals can suffer as we do, yet people are indifferent to the immense suffering foisted on them.</div>
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Well said!
 
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