VeggieBoards banner

1 - 19 of 19 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I've wanted a garden for YEARS! But never seem to think about it until the last minute.<br><br>
I know nothing about gardening.<br><br>
I'm a vegan, and I want to grow a vegan garden.<br><br>
The problem is, I can NEVER find any place to buy vegan soil, fertalizer, and seed-starter. I don't want to buy the other stuff that contains animal unless it is my last option.<br><br>
I don't have the time and knowledge to maintain a compost yet. I tried to maintain one last year only to get yelled at by my dad for not doing it right. So for now I am going to have to say: I wont be using compost for my first few steps.<br><br><br><b>So where can I buy vegan soil, fertalizer, and seed-starter?</b>
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
136 Posts
Use what you have don't start spending a lot of money.<br><br>
If you live in the northern hemisphere then the ground will soon be soft enough to dig up-get out there and Do It!<br><br>
Fertiliser is secondary to your initial efforts-you need to do a lot of digging-at least the top 30 cm- maybe building small raised beds and plan what goes where.<br><br>
Don't think too big-gardens take work and unless you have the time and desire to work weeds will take over in short order.<br><br>
People often start by growing the stuff that's actually quite cheap in stores-Potatoes come to mind-when what they should concentrate on is things like Herbs, Garlic & edible Flowers.<br><br>
Gardens should look appealing-that way you'll spend every spare moment there and the more you put into it the more you'll get out of it and not just in produce.<br><br>
Also-I have no idea what seed starter is-do you?<br><br>
There is no such thing as vegan soil BTW-it's all just dirt.<br><br>
You can build soil up many ways-Feed the Soil Not the Plant is the saying and it's true.<br><br>
Did I mention you have a lot of digging to do?
 

·
Give peas a chance
Joined
·
1,715 Posts
Don't buy blood meal, bone meal or fish emulsion. Those are all from the corpses of animals.<br><br>
You can buy big bags of compost at a garden center. If you've got plenty of good compost you don't need chemical fertilizers. Plenty of things grow on this earth without us dumping chemicals on them.<br><br>
Seed starter soil is kind of expensive. You don't need to start all your plants off that way. Some things like beans and squash are recommended to plant directly in the ground. I'm not aware of seed starter containing animal remains.<br><br>
I agree with Bill, grow the stuff that is too expensive to buy at the supermarket. For me, that's tomatoes, kale, herbs, mint, lettuce. Organic tomatoes usually run me about $3 a pound. During the summer I can grow 10 pounds a week, so it really pays off.<br><br>
If you are just starting out, you might want to look at 'container gardening' or 'square foot gardening'.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
The only thing I can think of is making your own. I use the banana peel, and other vegetables I don't use and grind it all up with other dried leaves from outside. Makes a natural compost.<br><br>
Another thing, I would just leave the soil you have in your backyard. Just use the garden tool that looks like a tiny rake to just soften the soil.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
892 Posts
I also want a veggie garden but I have been cursed with a black thumb lol. what are easy veggies to grow?
 

·
Give peas a chance
Joined
·
1,715 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>vegansarawr</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2830030"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I also want a veggie garden but I have been cursed with a black thumb lol. what are easy veggies to grow?</div>
</div>
<br>
I think it depends on your soil, region and climate... and even the microclimates in the yard. I learned that an area that gets a little more shade every day can affect how things grow. I wish I had a taste for nasturtiums, because those things grow like weeds around here. It's explosive. They just take over.<br><br>
Everyone told me beans, carrots and peppers were easy. I tried carrots twice but they came out as tiny little mutants both times. Same thing with the peppers. Green beans were abundant, but i must have planted 30 soybeans and they would always disappear after sprouting. The bugs may have been getting to them. I don't know.<br><br>
I think the best thing is to go to a local garden center (not a home improvement center) and see what they are selling at the moment and ask the staff what is easiest for your area. I'm sure they answer that question 20 times a day, and they have a vested interest in you becoming a successful gardener/returning customer. Some varieties of vegetables are suited to the early part of the growing season, some thrive better later in the year. Some varieties will fail if they are put in pots and others will be prolific. Tell them what you want and they can point you in the right direction.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
892 Posts
Thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Theres actually a garden center here run by seventh day adventist - and I believe thats a vegetarian church? So they would most likely know a lot about growing veggies
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
892 Posts
Well being Canadian I will have to wait for at least another month I would say. My yard is so small and we have high wooden fences I hope I have room. Plus the dog, my mom refuses to even try training him and he is hers so he will go where he pleases and I'm afraid he'll trample them into the ground =[
 

·
Give peas a chance
Joined
·
1,715 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>vegansarawr</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2830103"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Theres actually a garden center here run by seventh day adventist - and I believe thats a vegetarian church? So they would most likely know a lot about growing veggies</div>
</div>
<br>
Yeah, that would probably be good. They are vegetarian, so they might be more likely to know what they are talking about.<br><br>
I just would avoid Home Depot and those types of stores. The quality of advice is so much better at the garden centers. Home Depot sells stuff out of season.... like tomato plants in the dead of winter, which have no chance of succeeding. Their staff don't know the answers to questions and have to look things up. And they push MiracleGro products like they are some sort of cure-all for what ails your garden.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
892 Posts
Has anyone seen the commercial for tomato planters that hang and the plant grows out the bottom? I'm thinking it would be dog proof, but can plants really grow upside down?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
As far as I see most fertalizers contain feather meal, bone meal, blood meal, oyster shell meal, and manuer. Those aren't vegan and I'd rather not have them in my garden. I just want a fertalizer that is from other plants and maybe worm poo since worms break down things.<br><br>
I want nothing that has a thing to do with the meat industry and I want no part in creating a demand for such things.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>vegansarawr</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2830280"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Has anyone seen the commercial for tomato planters that hang and the plant grows out the bottom? I'm thinking it would be dog proof, but can plants really grow upside down?</div>
</div>
<br>
I think those are called Topsy Turvy? I saw them at walmart today when I was looking at what was in the bags of fertalizer.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
8,959 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>VegPanda</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2830311"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think those are called Topsy Turvy? I saw them at walmart today when I was looking at what was in the bags of fertalizer.</div>
</div>
<br>
I took a 5 gal. bucket, used a 3 inch drill saw-like for doorknobs- to drill a hole in the bottom. Place a piece of cloth over the hole, fill with soil, stuff newspaper so the soil is compacted, put the lid, or something over the top, quickly flip over (best to have it rest on another board or something that raises it so you can grab the "lid" when you need to turn it over again) Take out the cloth and carefully ease the plants roots into the soil. I let it grow upright for about two weeks, then flipped it over and used the handle to hang on a post. It grew very well, and I'm thinking I'll make or buy something like a portable clothes hanger thing and put in my patio.<br>
Google upside down tomatoes for a lot of links. I've seen them made from cloth grocery bags without starting upright at all.<br>
I'm going to try peppers this way as I've never had success in a garden.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
361 Posts
Wouldnt a worm farm be as good as you can get? I mean the stuff in there thrives and isnt treated badly. In fact the bugs and stuff like them. You can get some really good fertiliser really quickly from using one of those :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,577 Posts
Just use the dirt that's already there. That's pretty vegan. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
739 Posts
Exactly! Or buy just potting mix with nothing added to it. Then it pretty much just someone elses dirt thats nice and aerated. Thats what I do and its totally vegan.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
892 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Kindred</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2835401"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Wouldnt a worm farm be as good as you can get? I mean the stuff in there thrives and isnt treated badly. In fact the bugs and stuff like them. You can get some really good fertiliser really quickly from using one of those :)</div>
</div>
<br>
Worms are a gardeners best friend when I was a kid I used to save worms from drowning in puddles and put them in my moms garden.
 
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
Top