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I apologize in advance for this being so long.<br>
Honestly I just need to vent right now, and I figure this is the only place that will understand. My family just doesn't freaking get it. They don't get that all I want is for them to respect my wishes and leave me the heck alone. I DON'T care what you think about the fact that I'm veg*n, and NO I don't want to season your dang chicken carcass or cook your eggs. UUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><br><br>
I've only been veg*n for about 5 months, but honestly not exaggerating the smell of cooked meat grosses me out. The other day I went to DQ with my sister to get a starkiss, and she ordered one of the hotdogs for herself. The whole ride home the smell of the hotdog, something that I used to love, just grossed me out. I didn't say anything, because she's one of the worst when it comes to bothering me about my eating choices, but it really bothered me. This is the same sister who just loves to make up those famous hypothetical questions, that include me stuck on an island in the middle of no where with nothing but a cow.<br><br>
That aside, I HATE that they still want me to season and cook their meat for them. I used to be the cook of the house before I changed and now I still offer to cook them things but they don't want to eat my food because 'ewww wheres the meat?!'. I just want to scream at the ridiculousness of it. They won't even eat something as simple as spaghetti with pasta sauce and home made garlic bread because its veg*n. Umm when has that ever been not veg*n? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"><br><br>
The other day I found some organic croutons that were vegan compared to the ones that always have whey or eggs in them. I didn't say anything to anyone, because I didn't think it was that serious. Before we left the store my mom asked me to get her some regular croutons, because she needs it for protein in her salads, which she already puts crazy amounts of chicken, cheese, and dressing on. I literally stood there dumbfounded trying to process all the idiocy behind that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> Oh sure mom, I'll get you the over processed croutons which are somehow better than my organic croutons, where I could actually recognize each and every ingredient on the label. Unlike yours which had over 20 ingredients, most of which were some unpronouncable preservatives and who knows what else.<br><br>
Last night I made some really delicious black and kidney bean burgers, which came out great. This morning while I was eating one of them my older sister says to my mom, 'I think I'm going to go buy a burger from McDonald's to make up for the one Christina's not eating.' She teases me constantly about my eating choice. I think she also influences my younger sister, who is always threatening to sneak meat into my food. Today my mom also irked me. The same pasta that I made two days ago, I went to heat some up for myself because I was the only one eating it. Only to find that when I opened the container someone had sprinkled vienna sausage bites all over the rest of it, and they didn't even want it. It made me so mad and when I told my mom, she said 'can't you just pick the meat off?' oh yes mother, because the idea of eating spaghetti covered in canned sausage juice is so appealing to me. I ended up feeding it to my dogs just so it wouldn't be wasted. I was so mad though.<br><br>
They're always asking me to cook their meat and egg things for them, and it irritates me that they won't even attempt to try my veg*n things. They don't eat nearly as healthy as I do since I've changed to veg*n. It grosses me out to think that I ever ate that way, on top of the over powering guilt I sometimes feel for all the meat I ate. I never try to push my eating choices on them, ever. But it just bothers me that they can't accept that this is the way things are. My sister told me right to my face that she's going to throw a party the day I go back to eating meat, dairy, and eggs. She doesn't seem to realize or want to accept that she'll never get to throw such a party. I feel so much happier and healthier since going veg*n. I'm a relatively sensitive person so the things they say and do really bother me. <b>I wish they would just leave my choices alone!!!</b> Okay, I feel much better now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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spaghetti with pasta sauce and home made garlic bread because its vegan.</div>
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The other day I found some organic croutons that were vegan compared to the ones that always have whey or eggs in them. I didn't say anything to anyone, because I didn't think it was that serious. Before we left the store my mom asked me to get her some regular croutons, because she needs it for protein in her salads, which she already puts crazy amounts of chicken, cheese, and dressing on. I literally stood there dumbfounded trying to process all the idiocy behind that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> Oh sure mom, I'll get you the over processed croutons which are somehow better than my organic croutons, where I could actually recognize each and every ingredient on the label. Unlike yours which had over 20 ingredients, most of which were some unpronouncable preservatives and who knows what else.<br><br>
Last night I made some really delicious black and kidney bean burgers, which came out great. This morning while I was eating one of them my older sister says to my mom, 'I think I'm going to go buy a burger from McDonald's to make up for the one Christina's not eating.' She teases me constantly about my eating choice. I think she also influences my younger sister, who is always threatening to sneak meat into my food. Today my mom also irked me. The same pasta that I made two days ago, I went to heat some up for myself because I was the only one eating it. Only to find that when I opened the container someone had sprinkled vienna sausage bites all over the rest of it, and they didn't even want it. It made me so mad and when I told my mom, she said 'can't you just pick the meat off?' oh yes mother, because the idea of eating spaghetti covered in canned sausage juice is so appealing to me. I ended up feeding it to my dogs just so it wouldn't be wasted. I was so mad though.<br><br>
They're always asking me to cook their meat and egg things for them, and it irritates me that they won't even attempt to try my vegan things. They don't eat nearly as healthy as I do since I've changed to vegan. It grosses me out to think that I ever ate that way, on top of the over powering guilt I sometimes feel for all the meat I ate. I never try to push my eating choices on them, ever. But it just bothers me that they can't accept that this is the way things are. My sister told me right to my face that she's going to throw a party the day I go back to eating meat, dairy, and eggs. She doesn't seem to realize or want to accept that she'll never get to throw such a party. I feel so much happier and healthier since going veg*n. I'm a relatively sensitive person so the things they say and do really bother me. <b>I wish they would just leave my choices alone!!!</b> Okay, I feel much better now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></div>
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My explanation: The members of your family are all morons.
 

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I just hope it gets better with time... I used to have this problem when I first went vegetarian, and my mothere started up again when I made the switch to vegan. Thankfully, by that point I was living on my own. Maybe try pointing out, without being confrontational, how daft they are being? Like, with the croutons, just ask how the processed chemical stuff is better than what you eat. It's best just to be calm and rational (and vent on here when you don't feel like being either). They should eventually get bored of making the same 'jokes' and the like.
 

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This make me ache with you and I am sorry for your family at my one sister's house we had Christmas at her house for a change, her husband and son is on special diets so the only part of it that was really bad was ham and cold cuts, there were other sides that was at least good for a basic veg like me to have and we had a buffet style so we were able to pick and choose what we wanted to eat.<br>
If I was a non Veg and I had some Veg family members , I would pick several recipes that suits them and then make what the others would like , but, I am hoping it will improve in your home, just a thought when people makes fun of you or jokes like that they know you don't like it, just brush it off and turn the other cheek and ignore them, we had to do that while visiting family a few weeks ago for Christmas and it was way to much with various things. One nephew was putting spiders and snakes in my husbands face and my husband had a panic attack at my sister's house during our second family Christmas gathering a few weeks ago . The Nephew continued because he knew it was upsetting my husband. Which lead to almost him goin to the hospital.
 

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Hopefully it gets better with time. I feel so sorry for you! How long have you been vegan? how long till you move out?
 

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I say "stick to your guns". IMO, I don't believe in arguing with narrow minded people, because they will never hear what you are saying. Also, if they don't see you getting upet, it takes some of their power away and they may get bored and start to leave you alone. I have found through my own experience that if people tease me about what I am doing, I just tease them right back. For example, my brother used to call me a "freak" and I would say, "You're the freak, because you eat nothing but meat." Just try not to let them wear you down. For some reason, some omnis are threatened by our lifestyle. I think it makes them feel guilty, so they lash out at us. Also, deep dowm inside, your sister may be jealous of you.<br><br>
Hope I helped. You've come to the right place.<br><br>
Laura <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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wooooooow<br><br>
I just don't get people sometimes. ignorant people. hostile environment.<br><br>
you have my sympathy :/
 

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Awww, I feel so sorry for you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br>
How old are you? If it doesn't get better, then you can always look forward to the day that you move out and are able to cook and eat whatever you want. I absolutely love that about living on my own, it's probably what I love the most (well that, and the freedom too, plus I live with the sweetest flatmates in a good apartment).<br><br>
I think you should have a serious talk with your family. Holding up a veg*n lifestyle isn't easy, and I've seen people fail because their family didn't support them.<br><br>
One thing you should NOT do is try to argue with your family about veg*nism. Obviously, and for some reason, they are against it, but it really shouldn't matter how they feel about it, they shouldn't do such mean things to you (from how you describe it, I actually see it as bullying).<br>
Tell them that it annoys when they won't eat the food you cook for them (and honestly, if they're that spoiled they can just cook meat for themselves - that might teach 'em :p ). Tell them it makes you upset when they tease you by saying stuff like "I'll eat the meat you don't eat".<br><br>
I'm not sure it would help to ignore them and turn the other cheek. They might think that their teasing is harmless, even though it's actually not. They're your family, and they're supposed to love you and care about your feelings. I'm sure they don't want to upset you like they do.<br><br>
Maybe they don't understand how big a deal veg*nism is to you. Maybe they think it's just a phase. Perhaps it would be a good idea if you asked them why they aren't more supportive of you. There could be many reasons. They could be jealous or intimidated (although they probably won't admit that directly), or maybe they secretly want you to go back to eating meat because they're worried about your health, or because it's more convenient if the whole family is eating meat. If the first is the case, you can find facts to ensure them that a varied, veg*n diet is healthy, providing you with all the nutrients you need. If it's the latter that's the case, you could make a compromise where you promise to cook for yourself so that it won't be any trouble for your family.<br><br>
If it makes you feel better, I've heard a LOT of **** like this coming from meat-eaters, and I'm sure everyone else here has, too. I think most of us are familiar with the brainless "stuck-on-an-island-with-nothing-but-a-cow-experiment", and my brother has teased me several times with the "then I'll just double the amount of meat I eat" (of course it's just empty "threats"). I've also had people saying that I have double standards because I use make-up and other beauty products like body lotions (because oh nooo, they might have been tested on animals, and that's just as horrible as eating dead animals every day). Then, of course, there's the "food chain"-argument, the "we have to eat meat", and the "human beings have evolved into being omnivores, so nature designed us to eat meat" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br>
Just stay strong and know that you can always come here to rant, knowing that we'll all know exactly what you mean. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Awww you guys really made me feel better <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I think I needed to vent so I could deal with all the pent up anger of everything they keep saying. I do feel much better now...at least for a few more weeks. I do love veggieboards, it makes me know I'm not alone since I don't know any veg*ns in person. Thanks everyone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Do you have a car and/or driver's licence? Could you do the grocery shopping by yourself, one day a week? Fix something really good like enchiladas with black beans, spinach, peppers (bell and jalapeno, tobasco, celery, onion, garlic, tomatoes, and no cheese or sour cream, the way I accidently and not on purpose made them.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> tossed green salad with home made dressing, and a loaf of homemade bread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:"> I guarentee no one will miss the meat or dairy in those.
 

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Do you have a car and/or driver's licence? Could you do the grocery shopping by yourself, one day a week? Fix something really good like enchiladas with black beans, spinach, peppers (bell and jalapeno, tobasco, celery, onion, garlic, tomatoes, and no cheese or sour cream, the way I accidently and not on purpose made them.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> tossed green salad with home made dressing, and a loaf of homemade bread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:"> I guarentee no one will miss the meat or dairy in those.</div>
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That sounds delicious. I do drive so I'll be able to get to the store to buy the stuff. I can see my older sister purposely adding sour cream and cheese to hers just to bug me though. She loves dairy products even though she's known for years about how they treat the animals. Long before I knew, she's always been a bit cynical though *sigh*. I could probably get my mom to try it at least though and either way I want to try it for my self. Thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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One nephew was putting spiders and snakes in my husbands face and my husband had a panic attack at my sister's house during our second family Christmas gathering a few weeks ago . The Nephew continued because he knew it was upsetting my husband. Which lead to almost him goin to the hospital.</div>
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WTH!?!? That is completely wacked.
 

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did you sit them down for a talk yet? Try asking what EXACTLY is their problem with veganism and tear down their points one by one. Be sure to brush up on your knowledge as not to get blindsided. There is nothing worse that knowing something, but being unable to put it into actual words in front of your critics. That has killed many good arguments. and if they try to talk over you or shout you down, tell them that they pull that crap all the time and that it's YOUR turn to talk now. If they don't listen, insinuate that it's because they're afraid of something(that's probably the case anyway).<br><br><br>
Also, this is slightly vicious, but just go in the kitchen make something really appetizing and mouthwatering to smell/see...FOR YOURSELF. If they come asking about it, tell them that they won't like it, because it's vegan and proceed to chow down.
 

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did you sit them down for a talk yet? Try asking what EXACTLY is their problem with veganism and tear down their points one by one. Be sure to brush up on your knowledge as not to get blindsided. There is nothing worse that knowing something, but being unable to put it into actual words in front of your critics. That has killed many good arguments. and if they try to talk over you or shout you down, tell them that they pull that crap all the time and that it's YOUR turn to talk now. If they don't listen, insinuate that it's because they're afraid of something(that's probably the case anyway).</div>
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I still think you should talk to your family about how their behaviour is upsetting you, and why they are acting like they are, but I think that overwhelming them with facts and reasons to be veg*n might backfire on you, because a lot of people get all defensive/aggressive, thinking you're trying to persuade them to go veg*n, too. And that's just as annoying as when people try to persuade us into eating meat again. (;<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Also, this is slightly vicious, but just go in the kitchen make something really appetizing and mouthwatering to smell/see...FOR YOURSELF. If they come asking about it, tell them that they won't like it, because it's vegan and proceed to chow down.</div>
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Yeah, this is an excellent idea if all else fails <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> You could bake a bunch of delicious, awesome, veg*n cakes and desserts, and when they ask if they can have some, you can just say "sorry, I didn't put any animals in them, they're just for me". It's a nice little revenge, and you get delicious desserts out of it, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
Butterfly, please keep us updated on how it's going, I hope you'll somehow get them to behave well. :p
 

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I apologize in advance for this being so long.<br>
Honestly I just need to vent right now, and I figure this is the only place that will understand. My family just doesn't freaking get it. They don't get that all I want is for them to respect my wishes and leave me the heck alone. I DON'T care what you think about the fact that I'm veg*n, and NO I don't want to season your dang chicken carcass or cook your eggs. UUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><br><br>
I've only been veg*n for about 5 months, but honestly not exaggerating the smell of cooked meat grosses me out. The other day I went to DQ with my sister to get a starkiss, and she ordered one of the hotdogs for herself. The whole ride home the smell of the hotdog, something that I used to love, just grossed me out. I didn't say anything, because she's one of the worst when it comes to bothering me about my eating choices, but it really bothered me. This is the same sister who just loves to make up those famous hypothetical questions, that include me stuck on an island in the middle of no where with nothing but a cow.<br><br>
That aside, I HATE that they still want me to season and cook their meat for them. <b>I used to be the cook of the house before I changed and now I still offer to cook them things but they don't want to eat my food because 'ewww wheres the meat?!'.</b> I just want to scream at the ridiculousness of it. They won't even eat something as simple as spaghetti with pasta sauce and home made garlic bread because its veg*n. Umm when has that ever been not veg*n? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"><br><br>
The other day I found some organic croutons that were vegan compared to the ones that always have whey or eggs in them. I didn't say anything to anyone, because I didn't think it was that serious. Before we left the store my mom asked me to get her some regular croutons, because she needs it for protein in her salads, which she already puts crazy amounts of chicken, cheese, and dressing on. I literally stood there dumbfounded trying to process all the idiocy behind that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> Oh sure mom, I'll get you the over processed croutons which are somehow better than my organic croutons, where I could actually recognize each and every ingredient on the label. Unlike yours which had over 20 ingredients, most of which were some unpronouncable preservatives and who knows what else.<br><br>
Last night I made some really delicious black and kidney bean burgers, which came out great. This morning while I was eating one of them my older sister says to my mom, 'I think I'm going to go buy a burger from McDonald's to make up for the one Christina's not eating.' She teases me constantly about my eating choice. I think she also influences my younger sister, who is always threatening to sneak meat into my food. Today my mom also irked me. The same pasta that I made two days ago, I went to heat some up for myself because I was the only one eating it. Only to find that when I opened the container someone had sprinkled vienna sausage bites all over the rest of it, and they didn't even want it. It made me so mad and when I told my mom, she said 'can't you just pick the meat off?' oh yes mother, because the idea of eating spaghetti covered in canned sausage juice is so appealing to me. I ended up feeding it to my dogs just so it wouldn't be wasted. I was so mad though.<br><br>
They're always asking me to cook their meat and egg things for them, and it irritates me that they won't even attempt to try my veg*n things. They don't eat nearly as healthy as I do since I've changed to veg*n. It grosses me out to think that I ever ate that way, on top of the over powering guilt I sometimes feel for all the meat I ate. I never try to push my eating choices on them, ever. But it just bothers me that they can't accept that this is the way things are. My sister told me right to my face that she's going to throw a party the day I go back to eating meat, dairy, and eggs. She doesn't seem to realize or want to accept that she'll never get to throw such a party. I feel so much happier and healthier since going veg*n. I'm a relatively sensitive person so the things they say and do really bother me. <b>I wish they would just leave my choices alone!!!</b> Okay, I feel much better now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></div>
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I'd just say something like, "I'd love to cook you all dinner, but since it's vegan, I guess not." Then cook enchiladas or spaghetti that smells really good (trust me, I know of what I speak) and perhaps a <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?48510-Death-By-Chocolate-Pudding-Cake" target="_blank">delicious chocolate cake</a>...Hang on, I'll find you an excellent recipe. Here's a good recipe for chocolate cake. The only problem you'll have is mopping up all the drool on the floor. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:">
 

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maybe it's not just about veg*nism, it is just because you are being different.<br>
They might feel the same way if you started getting tattoos and became a punk, or started doing something else that was different from the norm....My guess is that it just makes them feel a bit alienated, which they react to with ridicule, and pranks, to make themselves feel better.<br>
So maybe if that is true you could confront them with that, and say you maybe understand how they feel, on top of some facts about veg*nism, it might make them feel better....I mean it's not as if you've joined a morris dancing team or anything have you? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I can empathise, I can't even share a holiday meal with my family any more because they have to have some form of meat in absolutly every dish served, even the green beans have to have bacon bits in them. And somebody always has to say, "You can pick it out." So I usually end up preparing my own separatly once they are out of the way and eating it by myself. My mother is so opposed to my healthier eating habits that she has almost completely given up eating vegetables and will only eat meat, bread and o<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">ccasionally</span></span> potatoes. I get my revenge though, when I bake some really tasty cookies or brownies or pie and just happen to mention it's vegan, I know I'll have the whole thing to myself because they're too chicken to try it (It might taste good). Except when I make chocolate chip cookies that is, then I have to hide some if I want any for myself.<br><br>
They have finally given up trying to turn me back to the dark side after more than 28 years. One thing I have done is to put a small refrigerator in my room where I can keep food I don't want to share or have be ruined, and I have a lock on my door. Perhaps you can do that if your not sharing a bedroom and if you can't put a lock on the door, you can put one on the fridge.<br><br>
Eventually they will give up and if not accept your choice at least become less obnoxious about it; you just have to keep your cool and perservere.
 

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I'm reminded of the boondocks episode entitled "the Itis". Huey bought a giant bag of broccoli so that they would have at least one vegetable with granddad's soul food. he opens the pot of broccoli to find it filled to the brim with pork and gets mad at the "pork flavored with broccoli", granddad says it's "broccoli with some pork flavoring".<br><br>
The Boondocks is good for the soul^_^<br><br><a href="http://www.hersheys.com/recipes/recipe-details.aspx?id=8108&name=HERSHEY%27S-%22Especially-Dark%22-Chocolate-Cake" target="_blank">http://www.hersheys.com/recipes/reci...Chocolate-Cake</a><br>
I'm pretty sure you can replace the milk and eggs but i love this cake.<br>
You should get some hershey's cocoa powder and hershey's special dark cocoa powder; they have great recipe ideas and you can make really yummy cocoa(when going for vegan hot chocolate, I find that the special dark tastes better).
 

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Thanks guys. I know its mostly that they think what I'm doing is silly because they say it isn't helping any animals. I've told them time and again that its not so much about me saving the animals as it is knowing I'm not contributing to their torture. Plus cooked meat just isn't something I look at and think mmmh anymore. We were at the fair yesterday and we passed the giant food section, and all of my family commented on how good it smelled and that they couldn't wait to buy stuff to eat. It honestly smelled gross to me. Like some kind of sour rotten smell. And it was only when I was in the food section I would smell it. That seemed weird to me considering how much I used to love fair food. I opted for just some cotton candy instead. Only after I ate half the bag did I look it up and realized it might not have been safe to eat because of food coloring. I felt kinda bad for that, but it just worked as a reminder for me to watch out for that. I gave the rest to my youngest sister.<br><br>
I've tried asking them why they're against it. My mom says she isn't (although her actions say different sometimes), my older sister says she loves to show me the flaws in my plan. Like how its silly for me to not eat eggs and drink milk, and how God put the animals here for us to eat, and all those silly omnivore things that get said just to annoy us. Its impossible to talk to my older sister. Its seriously just like talking to a brick wall. She's also the one who pulls the 'plants have feelings too' stuff. I try not to bring up anything about my eating around her just to avoid an argument.<br><br>
Oh but I did follow advice and make those enchilladas for dinner. Along with some vegan brownies. She openly ate an enchillada in front of me, but only after putting her own cheese on it -_-. The brownies the rest of my family ate without a problem, she wouldn't eat any. However two strangely went missing, and I know it wasn't my mom or younger sisters because they would have admittted it. Hmmmmmm.<br><br>
Oh and I saw something so disgusting and gross at the fair. We passed a food stand that served pork chops and chicken and just about every meat product (and some non meat products) ever made. All deep fried. The man at the grill doing the pork chops, everytime he'd put another piece of pork on it would make squealing pig noises. The worst part was when people walked by and heard him doing it, they actually stopped and LAUGHED, or bought some. I was so disgusted and so mad I wanted to cry. Farther into the fair they also had a 'MOOTERNITY" section, where you could actually go in and watch cows have babies. As soon as the babies were born they'd seperate them from the mom and put them in a tiny pen in the corner. The cows would stand there and cry for their babies. I wanted to ask everyone how they would feel about being put on display while giving birth and then seperated from their baby. I didn't stay and watch, I couldn't, but my family did. People make me so mad!<br><br>
Also @Lactoveggieman, they were hehe.
 
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