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So last night I was at my Rabbi's house having Sabbath dinner, which I go to every week. Most students are home for Memorial day, so we had anticipated just four of us plus the Rabbi and his wife, my friend Nissa. Well, as it turned out a bunch of students who transferred to University of Washington were driving though Bellingham on their way to Canada, and were going to stop by for dinner. I didn't know any of these people, but they knew most everyone there (they left about 3 months before I moved to Bellingham). I tend to be awkward around new people, but I also felt a kind of awkward I haven't for a very long time. A "I feel fat" kind of awkward. I haven't been eating well for about two months now, and I'm stating to feel that crappy way I did when I was extremely heavy.<br><br>
How do you guys re-implement, or implement healthy habits back into your diet? And, incidentally, put that nasty voice in the back of your head that makes you leave fun dinners early because you feel like a manatee.
 

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How do you guys re-implement, or implement healthy habits back into your diet? And, incidentally, put that nasty voice in the back of your head that makes you leave fun dinners early because you feel like a manatee.</div>
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Here's <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> for you.<br>
Well, I've never left a dinner party because I felt fat, although I am often the fattest person, period.<br><br>
As far as healthy habits go, one foot in front of the other!<br><br>
Plan ahead, make better choices, be consistent, put you and your health as a priority!
 

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Here's <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> for you.<br>
Well, I've never left a dinner party because I felt fat, although I am often the fattest person, period.<br><br>
As far as healthy habits go, one foot in front of the other!<br><br>
Plan ahead, make better choices, be consistent, put you and your health as a priority!</div>
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I didn't leave specifically because i felt fat, I just felt really uncomfortable and out of place. I hadn't felt like that since high school, in which my whole world was one big feeling of uncomfortable and out of place.
 

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I didn't leave specifically because i felt fat, I just felt really uncomfortable and out of place. I hadn't felt like that since high school, in which my whole world was one big feeling of uncomfortable and out of place.</div>
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Ah, so "feeling like a manatee" is about feeling "really uncomfortable and out of place" for you? Why did you feel uncomfortable and out of place then, if it's not weight/size/body image related? Based on all you said, about feeling awkward in an "I feel fat" kind of way, it seemed that's what you were saying.
 

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Ah, so "feeling like a manatee" is about feeling "really uncomfortable and out of place" for you? Why did you feel uncomfortable and out of place then, if it's not weight/size/body image related? Based on all you said, about feeling awkward in an "I feel fat" kind of way, it seemed that's what you were saying.</div>
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Oh no, it's totally body image related. I know as ridiculous as it sounds, I still carry around that "I feel huge" feeling when I'm around people I don't know, even though I know I'm not huge anymore (not that it's a bad thing to choose to be a fluffier person, it just made me feel awful)<br><br>
I think now I'm just... BLAH. I have been eating bad, and I project that people instantly see that and judge me on it.
 

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Body image issues suck. When I was really fit, the thinnest I'd ever been and a model, I suffered from BDD. I thought I was FAT and gross. Everywhere I looked I saw imperfections. So, I get it.<br><br>
What kind of support do you want? Let us know so we can try to help! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I wonder if I may suffer a mild form of BDD....looking in a mirror, I don't think I look like the size person the scale says I am....so I just try to go with the flow. I am a numbers person though.<br>
Anyway, like Ahimsa said, just start making better choices, get out and do some walking, biking, or other exercise you like. Only buy healthy foods, and use up or get rid of unhealthy stuff from your cupboards. Watch your portion sizes...if you cook and a recipe makes 4 portions, dish them up equally,and then put the others in the fridge or freezer for other meals.<br><br>
Then take a look at why you experienced those feelings. What happened in school or as a teenager, that brought those same feelings up? Did someone say something that made you question yourself, or did not being prepared for all of those extra people make you feel like an outsider, so therefore it was your weight that made people slight you? Or did you feel like you got pushed aside by lack of attention with all of those other people around? Just wondering........
 

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also do positive self affirmations, stating wonderful characteristics about yourself, to try to get those voices back in check. baby steps if you need to! If you're out again, talk to yourself in your head and ask yourself why you are feeling a certain way, is it real....(did someone really say or do something to offend you or make you question something about yourself), if not, then again do self affirmations, and tell yourself, you're smart, you have a beautiful smile, you're strong, people like xyz about you.....come up with your own list and OWN it! Be prepared with ways to conquer those insecurities.
 

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I wonder if I may suffer a mild form of BDD....looking in a mirror, I don't think I look like the size person the scale says I am....so I just try to go with the flow. I am a numbers person though.<br>
Anyway, like Ahimsa said, just start making better choices, get out and do some walking, biking, or other exercise you like. Only buy healthy foods, and use up or get rid of unhealthy stuff from your cupboards. Watch your portion sizes...if you cook and a recipe makes 4 portions, dish them up equally,and then put the others in the fridge or freezer for other meals.<br><br>
Then take a look at why you experienced those feelings. What happened in school or as a teenager, that brought those same feelings up? Did someone say something that made you question yourself, or did not being prepared for all of those extra people make you feel like an outsider, so therefore it was your weight that made people slight you? Or did you feel like you got pushed aside by lack of attention with all of those other people around? Just wondering........</div>
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Oh no, I'm the most athletic person I know, going for 40mile bike rides almost every day, and portions I'm great at. Its just, I tend to select sugary sweets if left alone to my own devices.<br><br>
No one said anything, It may have had something to do with not expecting them, I expected to be in my nice little group with all the people I knew.<br><br>
I actually do have a really high self esteem, I generally think I am very pretty and I know I'm smart, i just get super uncomfortable manatee mode occasionally, actually, if I think about it, it started before I left. I must have changed my clothes at least four times before I even left the house...<br><br><br>
Maybe I'm feeling hormonal, I havent felt like that in AGES.<br><br><br>
@AHIMSA I need a way to say no to the vegan peanut butter bars at the food co-op where I go for lunch every day! (when I get a very sensible spinach salad... followed by the peanut butter bar)
 

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Sugary foods WILL have an effect on your emotional well-being. I'm firmly of the opinion that sugar is poison. The more you eat refined, processed crap, the more you're gonna start feeling like crap yourself. And sugar is addictive. you need to get yourself off the white powder, and replace it with good, whole food. YOU KNOW what you should be eating to fuel your body. Just make the right choice, over and over, until it becomes habit.
 

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Sugary foods WILL have an effect on your emotional well-being. I'm firmly of the opinion that sugar is poison. The more you eat refined, processed crap, the more you're gonna start feeling like crap yourself. And sugar is addictive. you need to get yourself off the white powder, and replace it with good, whole food. YOU KNOW what you should be eating to fuel your body. Just make the right choice, over and over, until it becomes habit.</div>
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See, what I did was, I stopped getting grande soy mochas from starbucks, and switched the peanut butter bars with out realizing it. And then I said "Well, I'll only get the peanut butter bars on thursday" and then on tuesday, and wednesday I got a cupcake, and then a pumpkin spice iced cookie. Not exactly a step in the right direction.
 

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You gotta be consistent. If you allow yourself to have a "treat" once in a while, it ends up being a regular part of your day - a habit. Best thing to manage a carb craving is concentrated protein - a hand full of nuts, a protein shake, some tofu, etc... Stay away from protein bars, tho, cuz they're full of sugar and chemicals...
 

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Do you like any fruits? Or maybe do date shakes? I'm sure your body need those carbohydrates for your bike rides. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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You gotta be consistent. If you allow yourself to have a "treat" once in a while, it ends up being a regular part of your day - a habit. Best thing to manage a carb craving is concentrated protein - a hand full of nuts, a protein shake, some tofu, etc... Stay away from protein bars, tho, cuz they're full of sugar and chemicals...</div>
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Oh good idea, I'll start adding pistachios or almost in with the salad. It's a strawberry spinach salad with tofu bits, sunflower seeds, and vegan croutons. I'll start adding nuts too! Actually, I don't know why I didn't ask your advice on this sooner, I remember how you dropped so much sugar!<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Do you like any fruits? Or maybe do date shakes? I'm sure your body need those carbohydrates for your bike rides. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Oh yea, My diet is filled with awesome foods up until my after lunch snack (after lunch desert =/). It's twenty miles to work, and twenty miles or so home from school, with five miles between work and school, and I usually have a luna bar and a green Plus super food mix into some water.
 

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it sounds like you just need to curb that one area then....the sugar. there's still something that's eating at your psyche though, to throw you off balance and make you so uncomfortable in the first place. I'd try to dig for the answer for that.
 

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Oh yea, My diet is filled with awesome foods up until my after lunch snack (after lunch desert =/). It's twenty miles to work, and twenty miles or so home from school, with five miles between work and school, and I usually have a luna bar and a green Plus super food mix into some water.</div>
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TBH, a Luna bar and a green Plus superfood drink isn't much calories and wouldn't be enough for me.....which is probably why you reach for unhealthy things, because you need more calories.....can you make a green smoothie to bring with you? I would eat about 600 calories after each ride (at least).......sounds like you're eating about 200. You need fuel......to be strong and have endurance.
 

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TBH, a Luna bar and a green Plus superfood drink isn't much calories and wouldn't be enough for me.....which is probably why you reach for unhealthy things, because you need more calories.....can you make a green smoothie to bring with you? I would eat about 600 calories after each ride (at least).......sounds like you're eating about 200. You need fuel......to be strong and have endurance.</div>
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I eat between that as well, I have a full breakfast and lunch between, and a full dinner when I get home, I've been cycling for a very long time and am very good about what I eat for commuting, and events <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br>
It's not a matter of my body asking for it, its a matter of "Ooooo peanut butter bar nom nom nom"
 

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it sounds like you just need to curb that one area then....the sugar. there's still something that's eating at your psyche though, to throw you off balance and make you so uncomfortable in the first place. I'd try to dig for the answer for that.</div>
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I think I just never fully rethought of myself, When I used to be like that all the time I was around 230lbs, now at 135lbs I still see myself mentally as 230lbs around people. Does that make sense?
 

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When I am in confusion about body image and eating (like going up a few pounds or feeling like I've been eating out too much) I find it helpful to track my intake and exercise on one of the tracking sites. I'm using Livestrong right now. It just helps me keep things in perspective.
 
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