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Ok so in May it will be 2 years since going vegetarian. Recently I have given up milk and eggs as well, unless it is already in a vegetarian meal. But I do not drink or eat either plain, and rarely has it been in any meals.<br><br>
So my dilema is that I feel as if i am falling off the "wagon".<br><br>
I fell hungry all the time again and weak. I take vitamins and am getting enough protein. I eat plenty of greens. I am craving meat, the issue is I never stopped wanting it, I just was nto able to actually eat it anymore. Even if i wanted to fully go back to it, I couldn't, the though sickens me.<br><br>
But now the food that I am eating now is sickening me to the point that I rather not eat at all.<br><br>
I eat a variety of things, from pizza to vegan chicken salad and I mix it up the best I can. I do not like every vegetable out there, and do not like tofu so there is a limit to the recipes, plus money as well. It seems like around here it is more expensive to be vegetarian.<br><br>
So I guess I just need help with staying on track. Is this normal to feel?<br><br>
Is there anything else that I can do, maybe simple inexpensive otpions, that are filling and nutritous? Has anyone here feel off the wagon and went back to meat?<br><br>
Thank you.
 

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If you really must "fall off the wagon", don't go back to meat! Just go back to eggs & dairy until you're more ready to make the switch (or for as long as you like!).<br><br><br><br>
Some ideas of quick, easy and filling meals:<br><br>
Beans and rice with chopped veg (any sort you like: bell pepper, tomato, courgette, carrot, celery etc) and marinara sauce or salsa<br><br>
Wraps or tacos with refried beans (or stir-fry kidney, black or pinto beans with onions and bell pepper strips), shredded lettuce, tomatoes, salsa, etc<br><br>
Bagels or wholemeal bread with peanut butter and fruit preserves or sliced apples/bananas<br><br>
Big salad with greens, nuts/seeds, any fruit or veg you like, and dressing<br><br>
Vegetarian chili: make up a big pot (with loads of beans and veg) and freeze the extras for easy meals later, as well! Could be served with a quick cornbread, rice or jacket potatoes (which can even be microwaved for extra speediness)<br><br>
Sandwiches with bean dip (hummus, or you can try smashing a can of black beans with salsa or with 1/2 tsp cumin & chili powder + 1/4 tsp powdered garlic), salad and any veg you like (or try it in a pita or wrap)<br><br>
Veg pizza (with or without cheese, with any veg you like piled on)<br><br>
Spaghetti! Simmer a tin of tomatoes with some diced onion & garlic, dried lentils and any herbs you like until the lentils are cooked; serve over boiled pasta (or rice!)<br><br>
Bean & rice loaf, nut roast, bean burgers etc are all great if you're craving meat! Serve with steamed veg or a tossed salad and oven chips<br><br>
Vegetable & chickpea or potato curry, served over brown rice (I can dig up my favourite easy recipe if you'd like)<br><br>
Fruit smoothies: toss some milk (or soymilk, etc) into the blender with a banana and a few handfuls of any other fruit (frozen blueberries or strawberries are good!) for a creamy treat! You could add yogurt, ice cream, or ice if you liked.<br><br>
Sushi<br><br>
Stir-fried veg with any sauce you like (I like sweet & sour) and cashew nuts, served over noodles or brown rice (or couscous etc, whichever grains you like!)<br><br>
Jacket potatoes with ratatouille, chili, or baked beans<br><br>
Polenta<br><br>
Any soup you like with rolls for dipping<br><br>
Pasta or rice salad<br><br>
Baked goods: muffins, quickbreads, scones, fruit buns etc<br><br><br><br>
There's loads of options, you can do it!
 

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First: my hat is off to you. You have persevered, despite not having it easy!<br><br><br><br>
Now, my situation is a bit different from yours. I went vegetarian in 1972, and have been working on dropping egg and milk for over 10 years. But there have been a few instances where I ate meat leftovers which would have been thrown out, but were not suitable as food for my cat: for example, goulash (macaroni, ground beef, and spices), etc. I know this is weird, because my whole reason for not eating foods of animal origin is because I dont want to harm animals- yet I still enjoyed the taste of it on the rare occasion when I have eaten it.<br><br><br><br>
Admittedly, its become more difficult since I started avoiding egg and milk. But other than eating leftovers which would have thrown out, no- I havent fallen off the wagon and eaten meat. It just isnt a physical necessity for me. I think I just dont see the point of scourging myself if it wont do animals any good, although Im still not really okay about things like my goldfish and turtle dying because I didnt know how to take care of them. (When I was less than 10 years of age).<br><br><br><br>
You mentioned what you dont like about your food. What do you still enjoy about eating? And what sensations do you miss- any particular texture, look, smell, in addition to taste? Keelin's response to your post had a lot of good ideas; Ill probably try some of them out myself. One thing I have to watch out for is, I tend to get into a rut where I eat a lot of the same things. Its not so much that my food is unhealthy or unappetizing.
 

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> I fell hungry all the time again and weak.<br><br><br><br>
So eat more. Do you eat enough fat? Try eating some peanut butter crackers at whatever times of day you get hungry, as an example.<br><br><br><br>
Have you had blood tests? When I'm anemic (a lifelong problem -- I take iron pills for it) I feel tired and weak.<br><br><br><br>
If you want to, you could try recording what you eat on a free service like fitday.com to see if you're lacking any nutrients. Also, double check your multivitamin has at least the RDA of B12.
 

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I felt VERY weak and depressed when I went vegan for a week. I felt so deprived and tired from reading a billion labels (I do that as a vegetarian, but its more extreme with veganism... my normal vegetarian foods weren't a possibility anymore). I found out the hard way that veganism was not for me. I have learned to limit my dairy and eggs (I mostly only eat them in stuff), but I doubt I will ever cut them out completely.
 

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sorry for your dilemma. is seeking out an md or nutritionist an option? are there other veg* people in your area that you could trade knowledge with?
 

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I found a similar thing happened to me when I cut out eggs and dairy when I wasn't paying enough attention to eating protein and good fats.<br><br><br><br>
Have you thought about keeping a food log or tracking what you are eating on fitday.com or another internet food tracker so you can see if you are missing something?<br><br><br><br>
Also, I have to agree with the comment about going back to eggs and dairy (as cruelty free as you can find) rather than eating meat.
 

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Yeah, see what your craving. Sometimes I crave something because of the certain nutrients or vitamins in the food. I was a bit anemic and was really hungry for a burger the past week. So.. I grabbed some iron foods and I feel tons better this week.<br><br><br><br>
Keep switching things up and see what happens.
 

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I agree with Keelin - if adding back dairy and eggs helps you now, then do what's best for you.<br><br><br><br>
Also - check with your local health food store to see what kinds of customer support they offer. Ours has tours of the store for new customers and offers free cooking/nutrition/new products mini-classes on weekends. You may discover a whole new world of healthy foods that you've never considered.
 

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How are you eating greens? I usually stir from some greens and add some olive oil and top it with olives. Are you eating nuts and seeds? You may need more fat and calories in your diet.<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps you have an iron deficiency. Make sure to eat an iron source with a vitamin c source for example beans with corn.
 

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Do you eat beans? If so how many cups/ounces a day?<br><br><br><br>
Do you eat nuts and seeds? If so how many ounces a day?
 

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Well I did it, and I am not proud of it. I actually feel very sad, sick and confused. I do not know what came over me, but I ate a burger. I am not sure what this means, I know I do not want it again, and it was not good.<br><br>
I do not feel anymore energized than before, and its not something I want to stick with. But I still feel as though I am at a crossroads. I read all the slip ups and i have seen that others have also eaten meat, so I did not feel all alone, but I am not sure what I want from this point. I woke up in the middle of the night crying, and then I look at my dogs and feel even more awful, because they are animals as well, and I would not eat them.<br><br>
My problem is that I am not a big eater, I do not like everything out there, and meat substitutes are more expensive than actual meats.<br><br>
I am paying off my dogs surgery right now, which means money got tighter, and my diet got thinner and thinner. That is part of the issue right there, i was eating once, maybe twice a day.<br><br>
I bought some meat products, my fiancee can eat them, they will not be wasted, but right now I have no desire to eat anything at all because i do not knwo what the right choice is. When i decided to give up meat, one night I just did, and never looked back until now.<br><br>
I fully believe that meat causes cancer, among other things. I do not feel it is healthy, but at the same time I do not feel the way I am living is healthy either. Most the food stores aorund me that carry veg options are far, and when I go, I have to budget.<br><br>
I have tried the suggested options in the past, but I have gotten sick of peanut butter, and broccoli, and beans. I do nto want meat, but at this point I do not want veg food either.<br><br>
I am so dissappointed right now.<br><br>
Sorry for the rant, but I have no veg friends that will listen.<br><br>
Thank you
 

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Sounds like you are feeling awful right now.<br><br><br><br>
I think all the advice that was given before was very solid, so I don't know what else to do besides give you a <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br><br><br><br>
Also, I think most of us would get sick of eating beans, brocolli and peanut butter too. It's all about variety, and you don't need expensive meat subs to do that.
 

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I am going to take another look at the recipes and see what I can get at a regular super market from that list.<br><br>
Thank you for just understanding and reading.
 

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I would recommend finding a couple recipes you like - a veggie soup, lasagna, burritos, etc. and making big batches of those to have around. You don't have to use expensive ingredients, or make it too time consuming. Like, you can use frozen spinach in the lasagna, canned beans, etc. Don't spare the fats (splurge on Earth Balance and oils). Make them taste as good as possible (sometimes I change recipes to be healthier - adding more vegetables, less fat, etc. - but they don't always taste as good). I'm not a big eater either, and having foods prepared is much easier than looking in a refrigerator of ingredients and finding nothing appetizing.<br><br><br><br>
I have to disagree with some others about going back to l/o vegetarian. If you choose to go back to eating animal products, meat (like steak, not hamburger) is generally less cruel than the dairy and eggs. But I think you can make it as a vegan if you find some recipes and get creative <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Well I sat and thought about it, and I do not want meat, it is not worth all I have worked for and learned about and what my beliefs have become. There was nothing special about it. And I should not have to cry about what I am eating. I just had a lapse and i think I needed it to realize what it truly meant to me, Now I know I need to open my veg options more. I at least know I am not the only one that has gone through this, and I have for the most part come through it.
 

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Don't worry, this will pass. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> It took me about two and a half weeks before I felt normal (I converted from omni to vegan in the span of a week) Your body is still getting used to not having dairy and eggs. Try eating high-iron foods (many green vegetables are awesome sources) and eat it along with vitamin C, because vitamin C enhances iron absorbtion. I hope you will feel better!
 

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Don't beat yourself up. It's hard when you are wrestling with a desire to eat meat/dairy/eggs, and all around you there are people eating them without a second thought. At least, that's how I used to feel!<br><br><br><br>
My best advice is to get some great vegan cookbooks and start trying out recipes! I went vegan when I was in college and I had an awful diet, lots of peanut butter, bread, and pasta with red sauce...and not a lot of other stuff. I wasn't motivated to learn how to cook so I constantly felt deprived when I would see my friends eating. I didn't last long as a vegan that way and went back to being a full omnivore within a year.<br><br><br><br>
This time I am a much more healthy, grounded, vegan, because I have a ton of great cookbooks and a nice repetoire of vegan recipes. My favorite cookbook is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Vegan Planet</span> by Robin Robertson. I used to check it out from the library, but had renewed it so many times my dh finally bought me a copy. I also have a lot of lacto-ovo vegetarian cookbooks with beautiful color photographs - and there are a good deal of vegan recipes in there. Sometimes those photos make all the difference, it's so much fun to browse the cookbook and it gets your mouth watering for the delicious dishes. I would really recommend checking out some veg cookbooks from your local library - I did this, still do this, all the time, even though I'm starting to accumulate a good home library! Also, thrift stores can be surprisingly good places to find cookbooks! One of my favorite vegetarian cookbooks only cost me 99 cents. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
If you are not a cooking fanatic like I am, you could do what my brother does (he's not veg, but it's still a great idea): he cooks a couple of big recipes every weekend, freezes some, and refrigerates some. Then during the work week he doesn't have to cook, he just eats from what he already made. That way he always has food prepared and ready to go, and some backup meals in the freezer.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck -- We are all here to support you! You can do this!
 

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Colorful took the words out of my mouth! I was going to suggest borrowing some vegetarian cookbooks out of the library- you mentioned you were on a tight budget and this would save you some money. You could explore a lot of options rather cheaply- cooking your own food costs MUCH less than eating at a restaurant. And Colorful also mentioned another time-saving tactic: when you're cooking something you like, cook enough to freeze the leftovers for another meal. I eat a lot of beans and they take a long time to cook if you use dry beans (the least expensive kind).<br><br><br><br>
You're definitely right about meat-substitute convenience foods costing an obscene amount. But I was a little worried about your saying you weren't enjoying food at all... you really don't want to eat meat, you're certain of that even after having tried it again- but you're not enjoying your vegetarian options either. This is why I was asking those sort of off-the-wall questions about what you DO still enjoy, and what would make eating enjoyable for you again- although the nutritional points people are bringing up in this thread are good too! (I must admit that beans can be boring, if you don't season them with something that appeals to you. The same goes for tofu, which you said you don't care for.)
 
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