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i am very interested in what any of you have to say. i have recently made a personal choice, (and for religious reasons, if that makes sense)... to become a vegetarian. i am having the hardest time cutting fish. well, salmon and tuna... i was never one for pork and after my last pregnancy ended 11 months ago, im turned off at the thought of red meat. chicken and turkey were hard but i did it. now im down to just the two fishes, and cant seem to cut them out. i drink soy milk because cow milk is just nasty, but i still bake with eggs... do vegans not eat eggs because they come from chickens? because i was told eggs arent baby chickens because the egg was never fertillized. were the people who told me this wrong? and how can i eliminate meats? is it bad that i still eat cheese and bake with eggs?
 

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Congratulations on your decision to go vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
They probably make some types of substitutes for salmon and tuna.
 

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Congratulations on making such a great and at tims, difficult, choice! Fish was hard for me to cut out as well, even though I hardly ate it before I stopped eating poultry. For me, it helped to not think about it as food. To think about them as live creatures, or even something I was allergic to helped. I never even really missed fish.<br><br><br><br>
Ovo-lacto vegetarians do eat eggs because, as you said, the egg is not technically a baby chicken yet because it has not been fertilized. Vegans, however avoid eggs for similar reasons we avoid cows milk- the horrible living conditions of the hens, and cruelty involved in the industries. Eggs are also full of fat and cholesterol and really unnecessary. If you're interested in baking without eggs, I'd reccomend the recipe section of this forum and <a href="http://www.theppk.com" target="_blank">www.theppk.com</a> for awesome recipes. You can also substitute eggs in most recipes! Good luck!
 

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vegans do not eat eggs because they come from an animal and are considered very cruel to some people. As to how to cut out your remaining meats, just do it. Just make a decision to stop eating them and do it. Last, whether or not you choose to use eggs is your choice. Some people will, some won't.
 

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i am very interested in what any of you have to say. i have recently made a personal choice, (and for religious reasons, if that makes sense)... to become a vegetarian. i am having the hardest time cutting fish. well, salmon and tuna... i was never one for pork and after my last pregnancy ended 11 months ago, im turned off at the thought of red meat. chicken and turkey were hard but i did it. now im down to just the two fishes, and cant seem to cut them out.</div>
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fish was last to go for me as well. I've never seen replacement products for fish but I think you can get them. I've heard of 'tuno', a tuna replacement.<br><br>
Is the tuna you like mostly in sandwiches? I would try eating completely different sandwiches like hummus salad or something. Also, if you crave certain fishy meals try eating some of the things that were the rest of the meal. I thought I missed mussels, but I was actually craving the brown bread rolls I used to eat with them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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i drink soy milk because cow milk is just nasty, but i still bake with eggs... do vegans not eat eggs because they come from chickens? because i was told eggs arent baby chickens because the egg was never fertillized. were the people who told me this wrong?</div>
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some eggs are fertilised. Most are not. Vegans do not eat them regardless, and although it's gross that they might contain baby chicks generally the issue vegans take with eggs is about the way the hens are treated, or about the concept of animal husbandry regardless of conditions.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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and how can i eliminate meats? is it bad that i still eat cheese and bake with eggs?</div>
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It depends who you ask. I believe that eggs and milk definitely contribute to cruelty, but that you are doing an awful lot already by cutting out meat from your diet and you shouldn't stress out about it yet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br><br><br>
hope that was of some help to you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Congrats! While you still use eggs, you may want to consider buying the "cage free" eggs instead.<br><br>
Also, there are alternatives to seafood products--Worthington's Filets (faux 'fish sticks') are popular.
 

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Congratulations on your choice to become vegetarian!<br><br><br><br>
My personal reasons for not eating eggs are animal welfare ones. Most laying hens are kept in very poor conditions, often geting their beaks chopped off so they can't attack each other out of frustration, are made to produce eggs in such an intensive way that they're worn out after a year and get killed and put into pies, dog food and so on (anything where you can't see clearly what the meat looks like) when they would naturally live for around seven years, and also because when the egg-laying chickens are bred they kill 50% of them at one day old (the male ones who are worthless), usually by gassing them or by throwing them alive into a mincing machine. Some people avoid eggs for health reasons or because feeding grain and water to chickens so they can produce eggs is an inefficient way of using the earth's resources when we could consume the grain and water ourselves instead of the eggs and feed a lot more people that way.<br><br><br><br>
I agree that it will probably be easier for you to concentrate on replacing meat first, and then think about eggs later if you choose to. It is possible to use alternatives to eggs in baking with equally good results, I recommend this page for examples of egg replacers: <a href="http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html" target="_blank">http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html</a><br><br><br><br>
Can't give you much advice on replacing fish because I never liked it myself, other than finding some new favourite foods to swap it for <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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vegetarians eat eggs, cheese, milk, animal products that do not cause the death of an animal, strict vegetarians dont eat eggs, milk, cheese, honey and vegans are life-style strict vegetarians and do not eat or use animals including not wearing leather or wool etc. I'm sure you can learn more about the differences here.
 

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do vegans not eat eggs because they come from chickens? because i was told eggs arent baby chickens because the egg was never fertillized. were the people who told me this wrong? and how can i eliminate meats? is it bad that i still eat cheese and bake with eggs?</div>
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Congratulations on deciding to become vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
I think you'll find as you discover new foods to try you'll miss fish less and less. My diet right now compared to five years ago is unrecognizable. Five years ago I did not consume about 85% of the things that make up my diet now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
As for eggs, it really has nothing to do with eggs being (or not being) baby chickens. Egg-laying hens are perhaps the cruelest treated "food animals". They are kept in horrible conditions (yes, even the "free-range" ones, except perhaps pet chickens), and once their production has declined after a couple years they are killed and sold as meat. As well, when these chickens are born, half of them are males. Males cannot lay eggs and this particular breed are not well-suited to be "meat" chickens so they are killed immediately, usually by suffocation. It's just pretty rotten all-around for chickens. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:"><br><br><br><br>
I'd suggest if you're interested in eliminating or reducing your egg consumption, you should begin experimenting with cooking without eggs in baking etc. Really, I have had no trouble at all with replacing eggs in pretty much everything I've tried (the desserts are so good that when I initially went vegan I put on weight!). <a href="http://www.noeggs.org" target="_blank">www.noeggs.org</a> is a site in development that has some good suggestions on how to do this, and of course the recipe section here has lots of recipes.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck, and don't be afraid to ask for help! There's a wealth of knowledge and experience here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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congratulations! You just made a great decision for yourself and the world around you.<br><br><br><br>
I think that giving up meat isn't difficult, giving up your excuses for excuses is what tend to be harder! Integrate as much diversity as your budget permits you to and you'll probably wake up one day realizing you totally forgot about tuna or salmon.<br><br>
I eat eggs, but the ones I eat comes from a friend's parents who have a few chickens. All of them have names and don't live in crates or that kind of creepy cage-thing. I wouldn't eat much eggs otherwise. It's great because all of us are really attached to the chickens, they're truly smart and playful birdies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
(sorry, my tribute to Jacynthe, Jaqueline & Claudette!)<br><br>
I suggest you contact local farmers, many of them keep chickens in small houses and collect the eggs, you could surely find one that would sell some of them to you.
 

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Congratulations on your decision to go vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
They probably make some types of substitutes for salmon and tuna.</div>
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They make a sub. for salmon (that has milk in it), but I don't know about tuna. I never liked fish, so I don't know...
 

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I believe that cutting down on meat consumption helps animals, the environment, your health, and reduces the monopoly the meat industry seems to have over "dinner." Personally, although eating fish is not vegetarian, I think piscatarians who eat mainly vegetarian meals can benifit from learning from a vegetarian site and should be welcomed here.
 

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Hi there, I think it's great that you have chosen to reduce your meat.<br><br>
When I turned vegetarian, I also loved tuna and it was the last thing that I gave up too.<br><br>
I found a product that tastes just like tuna that you can spread on sandwiches etc, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called! I live in the UK and got it from my local Rosemary's health food shop.<br><br><br><br>
My point is that there are alternatives out there.<br><br><br><br>
You don't have to ask if it is ok to eat eggs and milk - that is up to you. It depends where you want to draw the line. It's your choice at the end of the day and no one can tell you what you should or shouldn't do!<br><br><br><br>
Good Luck!!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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Congrats! While you still use eggs, you may want to consider buying the "cage free" eggs instead.<br><br>
Also, there are alternatives to seafood products--Worthington's Filets (faux 'fish sticks') are popular.</div>
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Congrats and was gonna suggest the same thing about the eggs...thats what i use.
 
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