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So recently I have tried to understand the reason why I am not at a weight that is satisfactory to me.....a little background first.<br><br>
I am 5'3, 135-140 pounds. I work out six days a week, two 45 minute spin classes, 3-4 days of weight lifting, and running 3-5 miles three times a week. I have been told that there is no reason why I should be "overweight" except that I MUST be doing something wrong. So alas, I am trrrying to figure it out....<br><br>
MY QUESTIONS!<br><br>
1. Is excess sugar coming from cereal and soymilk and even FRUIT a probable culprit of my lack of weight loss/ ability to stay pudgy? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
2. Should I bother much with the idea that I am allergic to wheat/soy/corn or WHATEVER, given that I feel pretty good most of the time. Sure, I get tired at night, but as far as I can tell, I feel more energetic and alive than I ever have. If I had some kind of allergy, wouldn't I be really feeling like hell? IF NOT, how can I experiment with eliminating these foods to test for allergies?<br><br>
3. Is excess carbohydrate consumption to blame? I eat 50-65% carbs each day, and protein and fat are pretty much in equal amounts. Is this an improper ratio?<br><br>
4. I have a calorie deficeit- calculated on fitday- of 500-1000 calories pretty much everyday. Is it possible that this is too big a deficeit?<br><br>
5. My meal idea: largish breakfasts and lunches, small dinners. When are the best times to eat carbs/proteins/fats<br><br>
I am totally unsure of what my problem is, but I am working hard and not seeing any results- and I have been for awhile. I don't expect anyone to answer all of the questions, but if you can shed a little light on anything, it would be appreciated.<br><br>
lovenlight,<br><br>
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1. I don't know if sugar causing you to gain weight/not lose it directly, but it does give you those crashing peaks in the mid afternoon; the ones where you would eat your arm if you thought it wouldn't hurt. Added sugar is the problem, not sugar naturally found in fruit. In fruit, it is the right amount for that food. Added sugar doesn't have nature's check built in.<br><br><br><br>
2. You're allergic? How do you know this? The foods you listed often have very bad reactions for some people.<br><br><br><br>
3. 15-30% fat, 55-65% carbs, rest protein. The problem is that you need to eat whole carbs most of the time. Fruit, vegetables, whole grains.<br><br><br><br>
4. 500 calories isn't a huge deal, but more then that and you often get tired and/or overeat. Your body has a hard time taking care of itself.<br><br><br><br>
5. It's considered "best" to eat as follows - large breakfast, small snack, medium lunch, small-medium snack, small supper, small snack (optional). You should eat carbs/fat/protein with every meal and snack.<br><br><br><br>
6. Eat well. You eat crap, my dear. You starve yourself and end up gorging on whatever you can find. Stop letting yourself get that hungry. Have an eating schedule, if you must. Eat in between meals. It will help a lot.
 

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Krista,<br><br>
I don't actually know that I am allergic to anything, but its a suggestion I hear a lot, that maybe an allergy to one of those common allergy foods is causing me to hold onto excess weight.<br><br>
I didn't think a 500 calorie deficeit could cause problems. It should be just enough to make me lose one pound a week. Today the deficeit was 1000 though, and a lot of times it is 1000 or so. So maybe thats a little too much?<br><br>
I TRY to eat well, but I will admit, today was CRAP! Corn chex and yves veggie dogs? UGH! WHO AM I?!? LOL. Ahhh....I keep thinking I am a good eater, a healthy eater, but jeez....<br><br>
OK...no cereals. They are just crap. Maybe oatmeal, that will be better- unsweetened oatmeal, tofu, veggies, brown rice, whole grain pasta, fruit....what about protein? Are those Boca thingies ok? I can't help but get the feeling that those veggie dogs are garbage. They make me want to puke! Um...what else is ok?<br><br>
About eating...I can't stand eating when I am not like, growling hungry. Today I was like Oh, I just want to feel hungry. I keep like eating to get full, and overeating and feeling gross! I hate feeling real full.<br><br>
I am really trying to get this right, and I will.<br><br>
lovenlight,<br><br>
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Growling hungry = bad.<br><br><br><br>
Honest, it is better to get your body used to eating on a schedule.<br><br><br><br>
Tofu, oatmeal, brown rice, whole wheat pasta all have a fair amount of protein. Veggie dogs and boca burgers are fine; just eat veggies with them.<br><br><br><br>
You need more vegetables in your diet. No question.
 

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this may sound silly, but.. maybe worrying over it actually makes it worse? i find that when i obsess over weight and food, no matter /what/ i do, it tends to get worse, at least feel worse.. so my advice is to stop stressing soo much. and maybe the way you think you look isn't as bad as it is. don't guilt yourself and just .. chill out a bit. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
of course, eating right always helps. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> but not /obsessing/ over eating right. i tend too obsess too.. but try not too. and it /does/ help.<br><br><br><br>
i know its kinda esoteric advice.<br><br><br><br>
i hope you find what works for you...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Linz -- just a thought. I know you are working out a ton (you go, hamster girl!) but what about trying a new and totally different exercise? I know you are mixing it up a bit, and I don't know how long you have been on this routine, but what if you try something totally new? I have heard this is good for people who hit "plateaus." You say you do spin, running, and weight lifting. What about replacing one spin class or one run per week with swimming, or rollerblading, or kick boxing, or power yoga, or pilates, or a dance class, or whatever? You might work some new muscles and it could be a big mental lift for you to master something new. I feel your frustration and can't really see what you could be doing "wrong" and this was the only idea that popped into my head.<br><br><br><br>
good luck <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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what if your body is just the right size right now?<br><br><br><br>
just a thought...your diet seems fine to me, your exercise is above and beyond the call of duty, you say you feel more energetic than ever.<br><br><br><br>
what's the problem (aside from thinking that you have to be smaller)?
 

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Linz--<br><br><br><br>
Okay, assuming that you actually need to lose weight (your weight and height doesn't seem bad to me, but I guess that's up to you), you have to keep in mind that you're only trying to lose maybe 15 lbs or so. Your body doesn't exactly worry about being 15 lbs "overweight", so it's going to work against you by slowing your metabolism and such while you alter your diet and exercise more. The weight may go, but it will take a <i>lot</i> longer than if you were trying to lose, say, 100 lbs. (Okay, I like to follow statements like that up with links to actual evidence, but I honestly can't remember where I read it. Sorry. It may be bunk.)<br><br><br><br>
Also, you do a ton of hamstering and I'm sure you're building muscle mass in there somewhere. You <i>know</i> muscle weighs more than fat, so why are you bothering with the scale? I've gained about 5 lbs without changing my measurements at all due to my weight lifting -- have you taken that into account?<br><br><br><br>
I don't know what to tell you. I wish you could be happy with yourself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
Also, you say you've been doing it for "a while." How long is that? I remember when you joined the Hamsters, and it wasn't all that long ago... how active were you before then? I'm hoping you're not discouraged simply because change isn't happening as quickly as you would like.<br><br><br><br>
Umm.. other random thoughts: your body gets used to doing the same thing over and over (in your case, it's lots of running and spin classes, right?). Maybe try out something different for variety, to throw your body for a loop? Some swimming? Dance? I dunno... Are you doing the same runs as me? They slowly build, so you'll be pushing yourself without risking overworking yourself.<br><br><br><br>
And stop expecting there to be this one thing you are doing wrong that you can fix to suddenly end up where you want to be. Everyone's different, and in all the calorie counters and diet tips in the world, you will not find a single one that is specifically matched up to your needs. Personally, I'd say throw out your scale, close your eyes as you buy groceries so you don't buy <i>Shape</i> or any of that other body-image-distorting crap, and just relax.<br><br><br><br>
I don't feel comfortable helping you obsess over this. I don't know your eating habits, either. Enjoy your food, don't overanalyze it. Enjoy yourself... let the exercise be something fun instead of a mission. Didn't you have a picture of yourself as your avatar when I first met you? You're beautiful; accept it. Smile. Think about something else for a while -- like, a month or so. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> Don't make me be all worried about you! (ack... too late.)
 

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Stress?<br><br><br><br>
Hey Linz, how's other things going? do you still have high level of stress? if so , here's my two cents:<br><br><br><br>
stress makes the body produces stress hormone called cortisol. This hormone helps the body to conserve energy instead of "burn" them. why? from evolutionary point of view, animals need extra energy during stressful events (for example, a cave man facing a harsh winter or starvation) so it is adaptive to conserve as much as energy into storage. However, the human body does not seem to distinguish emotional stress and caveman-facing-winter kind of stress, so you stil have the high level of cortisol and therefore tend to "store" when you are emotionally stressed out even during hot summer and starvation is out of question. The solution is to maintain a positive, happy attitude toward the life and try monitor your mood swings <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Don't jump at me and tell me this is all wrong, but what if you have a underactive thyroid? Ever thought about checking with your doctor? I heard that you can test yourself by measuring your temperature every day for a couple of days and if it's consistently low (don't know how low though, maybe just a degree or so) then you might tell your doctor that. Argh, can't remember where I read this, otherwise I'd give you a link.<br><br><br><br>
Also, I don't know if this will help you, but you could stop calorie counting. I know that sounds odd, but I myself sometimes eat more just because I know how many calories I have left. It makes me binge to know I'm restricted. I have a little person inside of me that always wants to do the opposite of what it's supposed to do, so if I set only very few limitations then it doesn't revolt too much.<br><br><br><br>
If you want to eat better, don't focus on the things you want to eat less of, focus on the things you want to eat more of. If you think about what you can't have, you will want it even more and you might start craving it. I trained myself to love healthy food and now I find myself randomly craving tomato salad. And don't tell me you're different, about half a year ago you'd find me eating 8 poptarts for lunch.<br><br><br><br>
My staples are long-grain brown rice, millet, raw seeds and nuts, fresh veggies and fruits, and then if I want something else (AFTER asking myself if maybe I can have an apple instead) then I eat other things, like nut butters on ricecakes (my weakness), my self-made banana/ricemilk icecream, dried fruit, etc. (don't ask, I consider those "sweets" I know I'm weird. You might be eating something like boca burgers instead, I don't know).<br><br><br><br>
Eh, don't know if this helped. If you need more info, you can PM me, I have no life and pretty much read about diet, health and weight loss online all day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I'm not an expert on this but these are my thoughts:<br><br><br><br>
Do you have fat ? The "love handles" I mean?<br><br><br><br>
Cause some people try to loose weight by exercise, and they don't loose weight because muscles weigh more than fat.<br><br><br><br>
And how are you build? the bone structure that is...<br><br><br><br>
Are you the fragile type or a firm woman?<br><br><br><br>
You don't look heavy to me.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Linz, I think you're just seeing yourself wrong. I don't know what you look like, but I'm betting that you see yourself differently than other do. I think this is a serious issue, an obsession. I think it's important to address this with someone qualified to help. I'm not trying to sound like a mom (hey, it comes with the territory!), but just about every post I read from you sounds very sad. Please try to find someone to talk to regarding this issue, before it turns into something worse.
 

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I have an idea for you this is going to come across at first as sounding totally off the wall and against anything you have ever heard (unless someone has said it and i missed it) but bear with me it works you just have to think aobut it.<br><br><br><br>
all this excess attention you are paying to your weight and diet could be what it contributing to your weight. first off your not exactly overweight, you may not be reid thin but your an average weight, but you are definately preocupied, and definately dieting and exercising ALOT when we do that our body kinda goes into hyper protection mode and tries to compensate this can actually when we do this for a long time be counter productive, we can start overeating, our metablism slows down, we get really hungry because we arent properly nourishing our body for the amount of excersice we are putting it through. its a cycle that doesnt work in our favour.<br><br><br><br>
i would suggest you talk to a nutritionist and work out a plan that welcomes all foods (while maintaining your veg lifestyle) is adequate to cover the amount of excersise you get. if you are balanced that way you will proabably see a big difference, although a lifestyle change like this because mostlikely itis a ingrained psycholigical pattern will be hard and take a while. will be slow.<br><br><br><br>
I hope this makes some sense im rambling a bit. but ill be appy to clarify<br><br><br><br>
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Hmm, thanks everyone. I don't even know where to begin, but first, I want to talk about food.<br><br>
I don't eat poptarts or chips or candy....I know when Krista said I ate "crap" it conjured up images of those things. So, I am posting my last few entries from the "What did you eat today" thread:<br><br><br><br>
breakfast: 2 bowls of corn chex and a banana<br><br>
snack: banana<br><br>
lunch: wayy to many mixed nuts, bowl of corn chex, another banana<br><br>
dinner: two Yves veggie dogs (no buns) and a cucumber<br><br><br><br>
Breakfast- 2 bowls of corn chex cereal, banana<br><br>
Snack- a cantaloupe<br><br>
Lunch- Tofu and veggies in peanut sauce (no rice!)<br><br>
Dinner- Salad w/ spinach, peaches, apples, green pepper, and some pecans<br><br>
Snack- A little fruit salad, a banana<br><br><br><br>
B- 2 bowls of corn flakes, soymilk<br><br>
L- Boca patty, apple, bowl of corn flakes<br><br>
D- 2 ears of corn, some beans, lots of broccoli<br><br>
S- Corn flakes, very small salad.<br><br><br><br>
2 bowls of cornflakes (soymilk)<br><br>
a bowl of oatmeal (soymilk)<br><br>
banana, handful of almonds<br><br>
bean burrito<br><br>
1/2 hummus sandwich<br><br>
chinese- tofu, broccoli, rice - lots of this<br><br>
some cantaloupe.<br><br>
(that was a big day!)<br><br><br><br>
There you have it. You can see where the problems are....all that cereal. OK, I'll be back.
 

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My suggestion is that you need more vegetables. Load up on these. Have fun experimenting with some new vegetables. Check out some recipes for these veggies.
 

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rainbowmoon,<br><br><br><br>
I second what kristadb said - eat more vegetables!!! Have a veggie sandwich. Throw a bunch of veggies (lettuce, sauteed zucchini, etc) in your bean burritos.. or eat a salad with your burrito. you get the idea.<br><br><br><br>
also, it doesn't sound like you eat very much, so this is likely making your body try to reserve as much as possible. The corn chex likely aren't doing anything for you either. Have you thought about eating a more substantial cereal, like Kashi Good Friends?<br><br><br><br>
finally, I think that your weight & height are reasonable. You just need to eat more. Snack a lot. Buy those bags of baby carrots or pre-chopped veggies & eat some kind of yummy veggie dip (personally, I *love* dipping veggies in Annie's Goddess Dressing!!!).<br><br><br><br>
You're obviously unhappy about your body, and I'm not sure it *really* has to do with your weight... I really think it's important that you go talk to a nutritionist you trust to develop a healthy eating plan. Then, make a FOOD DIARY and learn to develop positive habits on schedule... growly tummy is NOT a good schedule indicator....<br><br><br><br>
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Alright! Here I am.<br><br>
Krista- Yes, ma'am. More vegetables, I'm on it!<br><br><br><br>
icicle- Yes, if I am constantly stressing over food/exercise, that stress is going to negatively affect me, just like freemouse says.<br><br><br><br>
freemouse & icicle - I have a high level of stress that I cause, because I am the worry queen. I worry all the time. I am trying to chill out, and believe me, I have, but I do tend to worry a lot. That is something I definatley need to work on, and thank you freemouse for the lecture on cortisol, because I often forget how bad stress can be on our bodies. I have started meditating and as soon as I get a yoga video, I am going to start doing it to try and reduce stress levels.<br><br><br><br>
spa girl- I have been on this routine since the end of the school year, and no doubt it wil change when I go back to school. I have started swimming in the evenings, and I will invest in yoga and maybe a pilates video, too. Thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Kreeli- Ah yes, I have considered this. Sometimes I think maybe I am alright, this is just my size and the way I am meant to be. That might very well be right, but I just can't stop thinking that if I am at my "goal perfect healthy weight" - 125 - then there must be something wrong with me. Maybe this IS flawed thinking- I know if someone I knew felt that way, I would want to slap them around, but gee, I can't help it! I look at all these friends of mine who eat wayy more than me and exercise wayy less and are much thinner, and I can't help but think, what am I doing wrong?<br><br><br><br>
Mskedi- Yes, the scale is stupid. But I know my body fat percentage is probably rather high, I mean I have little hunks of fat I can pinch. I know I'm not huge, but I want to be really in shape, toned, and not as squishy. I have been working out for over a year, but its only been a year of working out hard. Of course my workouts get more intense as I go along, but I have been sincerely trying for about a year and a half. It started out as just weight lifting, then cardio, now I do both. Don't worry about me, silly goose! I'm gonna get it together...I am trying to. I do have a tendancy to obsess, actually. I try not to...Thanks for all your help!<br><br><br><br>
VegAnna- Yeah, my eating isn't THAT bad, but I never eat pasta. I'll start. Its just a big high calorie food that scares me! I know my cereal problem is huge, I won't ever buy it again. I eat ok, though, I am really not a junk food junkie. I like healthy food! REALLY! I SWEAR!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I know I shouldn't count calories like I do, but I do have to set limits. My hunger limits me. I am going to focus on eating only when I am hungry, rather than according to how many calories I have eaten that day. ( I know where you are coming from on eating more just because you have more calories left....)<br><br><br><br>
1vegan- I've got some grabby stuff, for sure. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I would say I look pretty firm, and I don't know how I am built. I just keep looking at my Mother and thinking Am I built like her? I hope not. (because she is TINY, and 140 lbs on that TINY frame would be bad)<br><br><br><br>
Punkmommy- My mother always says the same thing! LOL....Shes like you see yourself wrong! Maybe I do, but I KNOW what the scale says, what my waist measurement is, and what size pants I wear. Those are all black and white. So maybe its hard to know what I LOOK like- which is most important- but sometimes the statistical stuff really freaks me out.<br><br><br><br>
JavaPrincess- I can't see a nutritionist because its too expensive! So, I kind of have to navigate it myself. Still, I expect that all the stressing over it really isn't helping, and I want to stop doing that-just establish good eating habits and stick to them. Unfortunatley, this is easier said than done.<br><br><br><br>
Thank you, everyone who replied!!!<br><br><br><br>
lovenlight,<br><br>
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Oregon Amy- All good suggestions. I will eat more veggies, and toss the Corn Chex. I gotta get off cold cereal! I could eat it all day, everyday, and it does nothing for me!! So yes, I will eat more veggies.
 

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Just wanted to throw something in here, although you've already gotten excellent advice. One thing stuck out to me - the bananas. Bananas are great for you, and wonderful sources of vitamins/minerals, but be careful - bananas are also pretty high in calories compared to other fruits. Maybe to mix it up a little, throw a handful of blueberries or raspberries on your cereal?<br><br><br><br>
And this made me laugh - the other thing that sticks out to me reading your food diary is that you eat a ****load of corn. I'll bet you're like, CLOCKWORK regular.
 

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rainbow,<br><br>
those little hnks you are taking aobut, they will alwaysbe there (dont mean to sond discouraging, but well im not fat, (although ithink i am but thats another story) but i can find them and it isnt hard, you have to learn to accept yourself as you are before your body will change for you. from the amount of excersie you get i would bet your pretty toned already, you just dont see it.<br><br><br><br>
as far as what you are eating its already quie healthy and dont get rid of the cereal alltogether, just dont have it only in the morning, spread it out, you seem to give up carbs once the morning "rush" is over. carbs are one of the essential fuels protein too, i think if you had a snack that had some protein in it, like a soyyogurt, or something it would stave off some hunger for your meals latter, protein is one of the most filling food substances.<br><br><br><br>
i keep forgetting not everyone lives in the land of free health care, so if you cant afford a nutritionist and your willing to talk a total stranger about your eating habits i have a pretty decent knowledge of nutrition and veg nutrition, and it seems like your already on the right track but that you get very over whelmed with worries and concerns and you kinda panick. maybe someone to help plan it out with you and go over with you sanely with a basis in what is healthy and safe would be good. you can email me at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><br><br><br>
sarah<br><br>
"to thine own self be true"!
 
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