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So today I was driving to starbucks and there was a McDonalds nearby. Outside the Micky D's there were 2 or 3 people protesting; holding signs up with dead cows and chickens. One of the arguments on behalf of the meat eaters is ignorance; the fact that many of them don't know what really goes on behind the curtains. But here, the protestors were showing everything, but there was a full parking lot, and about 10 cars in the drive thru line. I've come to a conclusion: Most people just don't give a s**t.
 

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A lot of people really just don't. A while ago one of my flatmates was telling me about similar people outside McDonalds in Leicester Square with total disdain. He actually said to me 'I mean, why do they bother? No one cares about that ****'. Which was kind of weird, he knows full well that I do.
 

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Someone cares. Some people will look and listen. And one person listening, might may several others listen. And so the world turns.
 

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Don't give up hope for all humanity just yet... even if the message reaches <i>one</i> person, it has succeeded. As River said, that one may reach others who weren't there.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PeaceLoveKnit</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2912358"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Don't give up hope for all humanity just yet... even if the message reaches <i>one</i> person, it has succeeded. As River said, that one may reach others who weren't there.</div>
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But I just don't get it. How can you see those graphic pictures of dead animals, then just continue to eat them?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AdamLayish</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2912360"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
But I just don't get it. How can you see those graphic pictures of dead animals, then just continue to eat them?</div>
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Not everyone values the same thing.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>River</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2912361"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Not everyone values the same thing.</div>
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Many people have gotten so used to disconnecting those images from their "food" that even when it slaps them in the face, they still deny what they're seeing. From experience with my family and friends, I've found that they feel "life's too short" to worry about anything but themselves and their own pleasure... and they associate meat with pleasure not realizing how much more pleasurable food can really be.
 

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You don't need faith in humanity, as long as you keep an open mind that any given individual you might meet isn't necessarily going to fit your view. I lost faith in humanity at the age of twelve, and while plenty of people tried to pressure me into changing my mind, and tried to make me feel like I was a bad person for thinking as I do, in all the years since, I have rarely been disappointed, and often pleasantly surprised.<br><br>
If this is the honest conclusion you come to in the face of overwhelming evidence, don't let other people make you feel badly about it. Just don't let it completely close your mind.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AdamLayish</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2912360"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
But I just don't get it. How can you see those graphic pictures of dead animals, then just continue to eat them?</div>
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Because it's just a dumb animal. If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat? We have The Dominion. Get over it.<br><br><br>
^^^ That's what the people who just don't care about animal suffering would tell you.
 

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Some people believe in the "if slaughterhouses had glass walls" thing, but I don't. I think it's just a matter of time before there's a TV reality show along the lines of "Celebrity Slaughterhouse Worker", where each week a different celebrity works a day in a slaughterhouse and while most viewers would consider it gross, they'd still find it funny. I can just see Paris Hilton fumbling with a captive bolt gun and plenty of laughing.
 

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Most people, quite simply, are desensitized to it. My last boyfriend did maintenance at a slaughterhouse way before we met, and still, at least 50% of what went into his mouth was meat. Which worried me for his health, at the time I hadn't even gone vegetarian yet but at least I was trying to cut down on the meat. He constantly complained about being constipated. I wonder why. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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i gave up on humanity long time ago. but i must say that a lot of people may react on it after many times of seeing it. i was a meat eater for a long time too and i was just passing those protesters and ignoring info i saw. because i simply had the idea that it is nature, it is a necessity and people who are against it don't know better. and yet one day it hit me. so while i don't think humans as a whole will make a change any time soon, a lot of those individuals still might get it soon enough
 

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I was exposed to info about this a few years ago but only made the switch last March. In my mind, I had justifications like maybe they're showing an extreme example that's the worst of the meat industry, I feel malnourished without meat, etc.<br><br>
In short, I think the key to converting more people is exposing the truth about what the animals go through, but not without combining it with examples of easy vegan meals and information about how much better it is for human health. For one, people who have been vegan for at least 20 years live 15 years longer than meateaters on average.
 

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I'm not a fan of humanity either. But I too have the hope that perhaps one person (or more) may make the connection. I still applaud those who do the protesting. I don't think it's in vain.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PeaceLoveKnit</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2912367"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br>
Many people have gotten so used to disconnecting those images from their "food" that even when it slaps them in the face, they still deny what they're seeing. From experience with my family and friends, I've found that they feel "life's too short" to worry about anything but themselves and their own pleasure... and they associate meat with pleasure not realizing how much more pleasurable food can really be.</div>
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unfortunately, I find this to be true too....most people don't care where their food comes from, or how it was treated.
 

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But I just don't get it. How can you see those graphic pictures of dead animals, then just continue to eat them?</div>
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Dissociation. A dead animal doesn't seem to equal a hamburger to some people. I mean, in a sense we all thought that way at one point or another. Aside from the life long vegans, of course.
 

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but i must say that a lot of people may react on it after many times of seeing it. i was a meat eater for a long time too and i was just passing those protesters and ignoring info i saw. because i simply had the idea that it is nature, it is a necessity and people who are against it don't know better. and yet one day it hit me. so while i don't think humans as a whole will make a change any time soon, a lot of those individuals still might get it soon enough</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> I was 24 when it finally hit me. Different things work for different people. I had an epiphany when I was watching an ant on a windowsill. He kept trying to pull something that was way too big. The ant would try, start pulling, lose his grip and sort of stumble. He kept going back, though! I never ate meat again after that and I never will.
 

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The thread to help regain faith in humanity:<br><br><a target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?120900-Feedback-on-AR-Video-posted-on-Facebook</a><br><br><br>
At this rate, we should have a veg*n world within just a few years.
 

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Inside every person is a better person, and inside every better person is a vegan. Every single one.
 
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