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How important is your personal safety to you? What measures do you take to insure you won't be mugged, killed, accidentally run over, etc?<br><br><br><br>
I'm including a list of things some people I know (or know of) do to keep themselves safe. (Valid or invalid.)<br><br><br><br>
--Always locking doors and windows at home, always locking doors in the car.<br><br>
--Putting bars on their (first floor) windows at home.<br><br>
--Inviting over only the closest friends and family members.<br><br>
--When in public, refusing to speak with strangers, even if the stranger asked to know what time it is.<br><br>
--Only going to bars and other nightlife places when accompanied by a trusted friend.<br><br>
--Only living in places not known for high rates of violent crime.<br><br>
--Never traveling through places known for high rates of violent crime.<br><br>
--Refusing to open the door for someone they don't know.<br><br>
--Refusing to travel via public transportation.<br><br>
--Never walking through darkened areas alone.<br><br>
--Keeping a gun at home, or carrying one when out of the house.<br><br>
--Learning judo, karate, tai kwon do or other self-defense techniques.<br><br>
--Hiring a bodyguard.<br><br>
--As straight males, refusing to walk through areas known for having gay-friendly bars and clubs.<br><br>
--Concealing valuables.<br><br>
--Reading all the crime reports in the newspaper to see if the area they live in has become more dangerous.<br><br>
--Checking the court docket records of everyone they know for convictions.<br><br><br><br>
What do you think? Does it depend on where you live or what demographics you fit into?
 

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I've never been in a situation in which I was in physical danger, except for natural disasters. So I don't do anything special except be aware of where I am and be reasonably alert.<br><br><br><br>
Funny thing is, I actually have paranoia sometimes.
 

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My family was held up at gunpoint during the daytime in a sporting goods store when I was 5. I don't know that doing karate moves or shooting at the perp would have helped the situation, as he did not physically harm anyone, and the police caught him later in the day.<br><br><br><br>
When I considered moving to Chicago, family friends told me that might not be a good idea, since Chicago has the highest murder rate in the U.S. (I didn't look at actual stats; just reciting what they told me.)<br><br><br><br>
Oh, the holdup in my first paragraph happened in a city of 80,000, not in Chicago.
 

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I live in a country which must be one of the safest in the world. It's not as safe as it was a few years ago, but I have rarely ever felt unsafe anywhere. Only once when I walked home very late and passed by the place where all the drug addicts hang out, I felt a bit uneasy but that was maybe just because the atmosphere was so weird... I mean all those junkies looking more like zombies would give anyone the creeps.<br><br><br><br>
It's because the poverty rate is low, and our social services work well.<br><br><br><br>
I would hate to live in a country where I felt threatened all the time. Must be very unsettling indeed. I think I would definitely check out the crime rates in the rest of the world and find a country where I would feel free to walk around without being worried.<br><br><br><br>
I lock my doors at night and close the windows. Apart from that, I do nothing in particular.
 

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I have 5 rifles, each of which I have given a name to and fondle a couple of hours a day. Well not really, I keep my door locked and don't walk in questionable places in the middle of the night, that's about it.
 

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I lock my doors and windows at night, don't leave valuables lying in public view in my car, and steer clear of known crack houses. I also have a few knives lying around my house, mainly because I just like them, but also, well, just in case.<br><br><br><br>
PS: I live in one of the 5 largest cities in the US. Probably one of the most important things I do is live and do most of my daily business in the wealthier and lower-crime parts of town.
 

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I guess I don't obsess about it too much. I live in an area with little violent crime. I try to remember to lock the doors before we go to sleep, but otherwise they stay unlocked all day long (whether someone is home or not). I walk alone, take public transit, travel in areas with higher crime rates, and talk to strangers if I have reason to.<br><br><br><br>
But I warn my kids not to do some of those things.
 

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Some of these "precautions" seem pretty extreme. I mean, yeah, one wants to be safe, but at what cost?<br><br><br><br>
e.g.: never talking to a stranger...one of the best parts of life! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
not opening a door...that's just bad manners<br><br>
(ETA: nm..I get it..duh)<br><br>
not walking straight in a gay 'hood...because the homos are gonna jump you? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
Honestly, I think a lot of personal safety is just common sense. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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...since Chicago has the highest murder rate in the U.S. (I didn't look at actual stats; just reciting what they told me...</div>
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Not even close (see link). Perhaps what people heard was that some years, Chicago has the highest actual number of murders. However, 600 some-odd killings in a city of around 3 million...well, you can do the math. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Murder rates in cities over 400K:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._by_crime_rate</a><br><br><br><br>
If you count cities with lower populations, Chicago's even lower, as it competes with places like Benton Harbor, MI or Gary, IN Camden, NJ or East St. Louis ((shudder))<br><br><br><br>
<<breaking the "big cities are bad" myth one day at a time, heh.
 

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*chuckles* I see according to that chart, Jen, Cleveland has a higher murder rate than Chicago. I can't see my family friends warning me to steer clear of Cleveland, since I have gone there with many of them.
 

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I know from where I've lived in the past that "Gary, IN" (our mail came from there, even though I lived in another town), and "East St. Louis" (went to college in St. Louis) were pretty bad and "well known" for murder/rape/robberies/etc.<br><br><br><br>
Although as far as the "safe" places:<br><br>
County of about 20,000 people:<br><br>
1 or 2 murders (normally one within 5 miles of my town<br><br><br><br>
In my town alone (6,700 people):<br><br>
probably close to 150-200 robberies<br><br>
bank robbery<br><br>
car theft<br><br>
vandilism<br><br>
1 rape of an adult, 4 or 5 child molestation convictions and charges (rape) of an adult->pre-teen/pre-16yr old (probably meaning that about 1% of the children are raped)<br><br><br><br>
and that's so far this year.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
like some of the things in the list in the first post, while it's useful of sorts, some of it's just a way to get more paranoid. Granted, I own a business that lists some of those things (whenever police agencies enter them), and it's available online for I believe that people should be aware if their neighbors are criminals/etc. At the same time it just leads people to become paranoid...<br><br><br><br>
Afterall... mailman, or killer/rapist that went to a costume shop....<br><br>
cable guy.... bank teller.... waitress.... they could be all gathering information about you to stalk and kill/rape you later... you never know. But to dwell on it, and go out avoiding it's a bit on the paranoid side (even if a few are out to get you). Odds probably are your family will be more likely to rape/kill you than a stranger.
 

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When I was in high school, I went on a honors trip with some of my classmates. We went to Atlanta. So, we were touring the place and we stopped to see the Coka Cola place. So, me and two other girl from my class snook off to cross the highway to go to the Underground Mall. It was raining and all that. One of the girls was from Chicago (she transfered to my school), and so she took her money pouch and put it in her panties. Haha. I was like, girl, what in the world are you doing, and she was like girllllllllllllll, these folks are crazy ok. All yall needsta put your money in your panties or somethin'. Haha. I laughted so hard. We did as she said ( At the time, I had never been to a big city so I didn't know how it was to be in one). Haha.<br><br><br><br>
I understand now why she did that. I mean, this girl was from Chi-town. So she knew what she was doing. I don't live in a place that has lots of crime. It's a small town, and everyone knows you. But, i'm not saying that I would walk down the street at night. Noooooo lawdy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I just thought i was tell my story. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Huntsville isn't exactly the crime capital of the world but I am from Atlanta and my mom is really paranoid (we lived in a fairly safe suburb but she acted like we were in the worst neighborhood imaginable).<br><br><br><br>
My precautions:<br><br><br><br>
-Doors and windows locked at all times<br><br>
-Alarm set to "stay" when home and "away" when out<br><br>
-Car doors locked at all times<br><br>
-I avoid walking alone at night<br><br>
-Not going out to mailbox or take out trash after dark<br><br><br><br>
Other than that, I try to be aware of my surroundings and that's about it. I don't carry weapons and I don't know martial arts or anything.
 

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I don't really worry about that kind of stuff. I'm the one to be feared. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sneaky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":shifty:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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I live right downtown in a largish Canadian city (+ 1 million people), and I feel safer downtown than I do in the suburbs. I walk alone at night on the main streets. There are always people around and cops patroling where I live, wheras in the suburbs you are far more isolated and there may be no one around to hear you scream.<br><br><br><br>
That being said, I do keep the doors to my car and my apartment locked, but that doesn't necesarily do anything. If someone really wants in, they'll just break a window or knock down a door.<br><br><br><br>
I try to make good decisions and I trust my instincts, but I don't spend my time worrying about how to keep myself safe.
 

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--Refusing to travel via public transportation.<br><br>
--Keeping a gun at home, or carrying one when out of the house.<br><br>
--Hiring a bodyguard.<br><br>
--As straight males, refusing to walk through areas known for having gay-friendly bars and clubs.</div>
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These are ****ing ridiculous. While they're at it, why don't they build a Panic Room and live out the rest of their lives there?<br><br><br><br>
I don't do much. I walk downtown at night. I go places by myself. Sometimes I forget to lock my doors. I leave my windows open all night. The horror!!<br><br><br><br>
If people stopped listening to the news and started becoming more aware of the world that's <i>actually</i> around them, I suspect they'd suddenly find themselves sans stick up derriere.
 

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I live in a fairly safe town. We lock the doors, whether people are home or not, unless the door is open for a reason and a person is in the room. The windows can stay open at night, but generally only on the second floor. Car is locked at all times. I will walk outside at night on my street which has no streetlights.<br><br><br><br>
When I'm in New York or other cities I try and make sure that my valuables (if I have any) are concealed in a dificult to reach place and that nothing that anyone would take is in view in the car.<br><br><br><br>
My mom really wants me to take a self defense class before I go off to college, I'm a little doubtful.
 

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I live in Jamaica Plain, a neighborhood in Boston. Some of my co-workers tell me "I won't even stop in J.P. for red lights, even when the doors are locked." Which I find funny, because I find my neighborhood, all in all, pretty safe. I did have one incident where someone tried to break into my apartment, but it turned out to be a case of "mistaken apartment" - they were trying to break into the apartment on the other side, where they were looking for drugs from someone they knew.<br><br><br><br>
To be honest, I feel safer in the city then out in the middle of no-where. At least in the city, I know that I have lots of ears around if I need them. Out in the middle of no-where, there is no one to hear you scream, you know? No where to run and be safe. So to me, being out in the country is horrifying. Being in the middle of the city surrounded by people - I feel right at home. So synergy, I agree, I feel safer walking the streets of the city at night than the suburbs.<br><br><br><br>
So I guess, Skylark, that your friends would think I'm nuts. But these are the things I do to stay safe:<br><br><br><br>
1. I don't walk down dark alleys by myself.<br><br>
2. I lock my car doors and apartment doors.<br><br>
3. I put up timers on the lights in my apartment when I leave for long periods<br><br>
4. I have alarms on the balcony where someone once tried to get through.<br><br>
5. I stay away from <i>really</i> dangerous neighborhoods at night - during the day, I've been known to go to Dorchester or Roxbury (not-so-nice neighborhoods in Boston). I'll drive through both at night, no problem. I just keep my doors locked and stay alert.<br><br>
6. I have taken self-defense courses, including a few years of karate as an adult, which I really enjoyed (it was just too expensive to keep doing.)<br><br>
7. When I'm walking alone at night, I walk with my keys in my hand, at the ready, so I can get in my house as quickly as I can, and/or gouge out the eyes of anyone who tries to attack me. (note to everyone: don't try to attack me ;-) )<br><br><br><br>
In general, being reasonably vigilant is all you really need. Be street smart, and you'll likely be safe.
 

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Amy, I laughed when I heard about the "safety measures" you quoted above, too. In fact, that's part of why I started this threadbecause some people are paranoid or conserve safety habits from parts of the world that are much more dangerous than the U.S.
 

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I talk to soo many strangers. But you pick and choose, obviously. I'm not going to talk to the crazy, angry looking guy who's muttering under his breath, for example.<br><br><br><br>
Our windows are usually open night and day, but we're on the third floor. We do keep the door locked, anyway, and if we had a car, I'd keep those doors locked too. I'm more worried about accidentally being hit by a drunk driver or something than an actual attack. (Drunk driving is a serious problem around here, there have been a lot of people killed this summer from it).<br><br><br><br>
I don't walk around alone at night, but that's mostly because I don't really have places that I want to go to alone at night.
 

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Another one I heard from a cop's wife is that she refuses to live in a first-floor apartment, because they get broken into so much more often.<br><br><br><br>
I would be miserable if I didn't feel safe enough to walk outside at night. Night is my favorite time to go out. I just got back from my evening walk. It was dusk when I left, and full dark by the time I got back. I almost always see other people out for walks or bike rides, too.
 
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