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<p>So, I posted a recipe here for <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/a/homemade-cheese-crackers-in-fun-shapes-for-kids">cheese crackers</a>, in the vegetarian recipes section. Then 4everaspirit (who I hope is okay with me calling her out) posted this comment, "<em>I thought you were vegan? o_O Wouldn't it be weird to be advocating something with cheese, even though you mention it can be made vegan?</em>" </p>
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<p>To which I responded, "<em>I am vegan, but VB is a site for vegetarians and vegans, and part of my job is to create content for everyone here - vegetarians, vegans, raw foodies, etc. The vegetarian recipe section was empty, so I added this as a decent recipe that vegetarians might like but that vegans could likely vegan up if they like.</em>"</p>
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<p>4everaspirit's comment was good in that it made me start thinking about jobs and how you manage said jobs when you don't necessarily agree with what's going on at that job. </p>
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<p>As a teen, I worked at a restaurant and it bugged me when I had to serve meat. I didn't do anything about it though because I didn't know how to do anything about it. </p>
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<p>Later, when I was a social worker I didn't really have to deal with food, but for community potlucks I'd always bring a vegetarian dish for everyone to share. During clinicals (RN college stuff) I'd try to discuss vegetarian diets with patients when appropriate. Later still, when I started writing for clients, I'd insert vegetarian stuff here and there, such as <em>how to have a vegetarian pregnancy</em> for a health site or <em>best vegan foods</em> for a parenting site I write for. </p>
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<p>My hardest job right now to deal with in terms of personal choices is the organic site I write for. I write about the National Organic Program (NOP) for producers and processors, which does involve writing about livestock handling. As a long time vegetarian, newer vegan, this can be tough. My rational (or how I deal with it) is to be honest about how organics don't really help knock out much animal cruelty. My goal surrounding this is to make sure people know that while it's clear that people who eat animal products won't be going away anytime soon, NOP standards could be drastically improved in order to cut out some of the harm that animals deal with. </p>
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<p>In any case, I know many vegetarians and vegans have jobs (including myself) that do not always line up perfectly with vegetarian or vegan ethics or choices. </p>
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<p>If you have a job like this, do you try to promote vegetarian or vegan choices somehow at that job? Or if you can't promote veggie choices, how do you deal with working at a job that doesn't really support your lifestyle choices? </p>
 

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<p>yes, I'm okay with you referring to me :)</p>
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<p>Sometimes I'd say follow your heart and do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Don't follow what the herd wants you to follow so you can stay in some ways trapped within their oppressive cycle.</p>
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<p>Yep, I know that's easier said than done, but I think if you have a lot of power, it can hit a mark. Remember the USDA meatless monday blow up? Someone had the courage to post what was right this time when they probably knew it would get them reprimanded. In good news, it did bring attention to the issue and caused many people to think.</p>
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<p>I know that I used to pay for people's lunches in school when they forgot their lunch money, and then I was like grrr....wait a minute...and they come back with something that had a will to live. Now I don't. I don't even serve my friends any animal products. If they ask for a refill of  milk, I say that I'll get the water, but not milk.</p>
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<p>It's really up to the individual in how they want to handle the situation. Some can tolerate working in conditions that they know lead to exploitation of others. Others have a nagging feeling that they shouldn't contribute to such crap, and they do something about it. I feel like my reactions to handling non vegan food has varied. I'm being more opposing to it though, which I'm really glad for. Cuz to me now, handling non vegan food and being okay with it, would be like me not supporting human slavery, but then driving the slave ship x_x </p>
 

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<p>I'm in a similar position. I work with children with feeding disorders and am told by parents that I need to get their children to start eating meat, dairy, and eggs. These children often refuse such foods and it is my job to force them to become good little omnivores <span id="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1355628423194_852"><img alt="bigcry.gif" id="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1355628423194_851" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="width:29px;height:15px;"></span>  It is hard encouraging a child to eat foods that I would refuse myself. And it is also hard to bite my tongue when parents cite protein as a concern. Basically, I do not work in the medical field and it is not my job to tell parents how to feed their children or to educate them on things that are tecnically not my area of professional expertise. It is a difficult moral dilemna though that I struggle with often.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Nara</strong> <a href="/t/138398/how-do-promote-vegan-or-vegetarian-habits-at-a-workplace-that-does-not#post_3201607"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p>I'm in a similar position. I work with children with feeding disorders and am told by parents that I need to get their children to start eating meat, dairy, and eggs. These children often refuse such foods and it is my job to force them to become good little omnivores <span id="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1355628423194_852"><img alt="bigcry.gif" id="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1355628423194_851" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="width:29px;height:15px;"></span>  It is hard encouraging a child to eat foods that I would refuse myself. And it is also hard to bite my tongue when parents cite protein as a concern. Basically, I do not work in the medical field and it is not my job to tell parents how to feed their children or to educate them on things that are tecnically not my area of professional expertise. It is a difficult moral dilemna though that I struggle with often.</p>
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If you really care about these children, then can you seek to make more of their concerns in your field of expertise? I see nothing wrong with advocating that these children try different fruits and find some they like and they can work from there. Can't you offer some delicious veg items you know to these people that might be interesting and unique so that the child might want to try them? You say it's not your job to tell these children how to eat, so no, it's not, but otherwise, that doesn't mean you can't give them some fulfilling recommendations for veg foods to try.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>4everaspirit</strong> <a href="/t/138398/how-do-promote-vegan-or-vegetarian-habits-at-a-workplace-that-does-not#post_3201616"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p><br>
If you really care about these children, then can you seek to make more of their concerns in your field of expertise? I see nothing wrong with advocating that these children try different fruits and find some they like and they can work from there. Can't you offer some delicious veg items you know to these people that might be interesting and unique so that the child might want to try them? You say it's not your job to tell these children how to eat, so no, it's not, but otherwise, that doesn't mean you can't give them some fulfilling recommendations for veg foods to try.</p>
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<p>Well of course eating veggies and fruits are also part of what I do. The kids I work with have autism and other disabilities and therefore have a variety of sensory issues... they actually tend to prefer to eat breads and meats over fruits and veggies which often have a texture that they don't like.</p>
 
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