Uh... you going to stop using coal, too? And steel? Coal is essential in steel production, and coal is made of dead animals and plants, too.
How can I avoid using oil?
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How can I stop using coal as well?Originally Posted by Kiz
Uh... you going to stop using coal, too? And steel? Coal is essential in steel production, and coal is made of dead animals and plants, too.
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Better you go homeless.
lolOriginally Posted by LionSpirit
How can I stop using coal as well?
Better you go homeless.
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Good one!!!
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Originally Posted by Kiz
Heck, the stone, glass and brick in building would probably contain atoms that had once been atoms that were part of an animals. Damned atoms, you just can't trust 'em.
Good one!!!
CRAAAAAAAAAP!!! Those damn atoms... are around my body... I'm surrounded by atoms!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! My presence is... is... is...
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Petroleum, what most fuel is made from, is animal and plant matter that's millions of years old. I'd suggest limiting it's use because of all the carbon that it releases but it's nor an animal rights concern.
I think I know what you're talking about. I read an article about making bio-diesel from slaughterhouse remains and trash but I don't think it's gotten off the ground, the article was a year or so old. I don't think it'd be as good as ethanol anyways. What I can get exited about is hydrogen, but the tech isn't there yet.Originally Posted by LionSpirit
It seems that oil can be made from dead animals. And isn't plastic made from oil? How can I stop using oil products?
Petroleum, what most fuel is made from, is animal and plant matter that's millions of years old. I'd suggest limiting it's use because of all the carbon that it releases but it's nor an animal rights concern.
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Maybe I'm just sensitive about this stiff right now but I don't think you should post things like this. Not funny.Originally Posted by Chicagoan
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It is a bit extreme. Oil is made from plants and animals that died millions of years ago and their decayed bodies were compacted because of pressure. If you want to avoid oil go ahead but it will mean owning nothing other than things that require no machinary to produce because the machinary would be powered by fossil fuel, including the computer and the electricity which you are currently using to talk about this.Originally Posted by LionSpirit
Why is everyone being so horrible?
And why is it not an ethical concern? It's using dead animals.
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Sorry if it bothered you. It was not my intention.
Kiz and I were just kiddingOriginally Posted by Beachbnny
Maybe I'm just sensitive about this stiff right now but I don't think you should post things like this. Not funny.
Sorry if it bothered you. It was not my intention.
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Do you abstain from animal products because using animal products is something you just decided arbitrarily, for no reason was bad, so you just decided by your definition, with no reason, that it was bad? That's a dogma. It doesn't matter the reasons behind your tenet, you just follow without thinking.
OR did you start abstaining for a reason? For example, to reduce suffering?
That should lead you to your answer about fossil fuels. And everyone is right about the animals. Soil is made from dead animals and plants, and plant made from soil, so you might want to start starving yourself if you don't want anything that's ever been an animal inside of you.
*some veg*ns do seem to have this attitude, which I very much disagree with.
If you are serious, then let me ask this.Originally Posted by LionSpirit
Why is everyone being so horrible?
And why is it not an ethical concern? It's using dead animals. If it's not an ethical concern then you might as well wear leather that you know came from an already dead cow
Do you abstain from animal products because using animal products is something you just decided arbitrarily, for no reason was bad, so you just decided by your definition, with no reason, that it was bad? That's a dogma. It doesn't matter the reasons behind your tenet, you just follow without thinking.
OR did you start abstaining for a reason? For example, to reduce suffering?
That should lead you to your answer about fossil fuels. And everyone is right about the animals. Soil is made from dead animals and plants, and plant made from soil, so you might want to start starving yourself if you don't want anything that's ever been an animal inside of you.
*some veg*ns do seem to have this attitude, which I very much disagree with.
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You are yanking people's chains on this one, that's why I'm not being overly polite. You know perfectly well there is an ethical difference between killing a cow for leather and using the fossilised remains of animals which lived hundreds of millions of years ago. You think nature and the laws of physics and chemistry were being unethical when they created a limestone cave out of dead sea animals?
There is a difference as you know perfectly well. It's been explained so go back and read it. If you are all strung up about the ethics of using fossil fuels, which come primarily from the bodies of animals that died of natural causes hundreds of millions years before the earlies homonids roamed the earth, why are you not getting strung up about walking into buildings? Or certain caves? Or walking on the ground? Limestone is made of dead animals and sandstone has dead animals in it, both of marine origin. Some glass is made of sand, which in turn, would have a percentage of shell fragments, which comes from dead animals. Some glass contains lime from limestone which, as mentioned before, contains dead animals. Soil has dead animals in it. Are you going to stop eating plants now? Walking on the ground? Are you going to dismantle all the windows in your house?Originally Posted by LionSpirit
Why is everyone being so horrible?
And why is it not an ethical concern? It's using dead animals. If it's not an ethical concern then you might as well wear leather that you know came from an already dead cow
You are yanking people's chains on this one, that's why I'm not being overly polite. You know perfectly well there is an ethical difference between killing a cow for leather and using the fossilised remains of animals which lived hundreds of millions of years ago. You think nature and the laws of physics and chemistry were being unethical when they created a limestone cave out of dead sea animals?
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