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i saw this is not a vegan item .. is it because bees make it or is there something else i should know??<br><br><br><br>
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Yes. Honey is bee-barf (eww), and too many bees aren't good for the natural balance. Try agave nectar. My favorite kind is madhava raw. In addition to not being an animal product, it doesn't mess up your blood sugar levels like honey does.
 

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It is because it's a bee product, but also because of the way bees are harmed in the process. Of course, in harvesting veggies/grains/etc some insects are harmed, but in the process of honey harvesting, usually some bees are killed and many see honey as less necessary than veggies/grains/etc. Also, especially in big honey-production companies, they remove all the honey, royal jelly, etc and substitute much inferior products for the bees to use (as honey is the food of bees). Some of these big outfits also kill the queen after a couple of seasons (as it's easier just to buy a new queen and start over), some even destroy their hives after every season (as moving them to warmer climates costs a lot)--sometimes by burning the hives, some behead the male bees to get bee "sperm" to inseminate the queens, etc.
 

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<b><span>MelissaLynn - "honey??"<br><br><br><br>
yes??<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"></span></b>
 

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vegan = no animal products<br><br><br><br>
bees... are not plants... not fungus... not protists nor monera..<br><br>
hmmmmmmm....
 

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I think honey is not vegan, but I wouldn't discount someone from being vegan if (s)he ate honey.
 

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Honey is definetely NOT vegan because it is an animal by-product. Insects are animals.<br><br><br><br>
But, you will find some vegans do consume honey, see for example Vegan Outreach's philosophy on Honey at <a href="http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack/qa.html" target="_blank">http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack/qa.html</a> or the Satya article on why some vegans don't worry about honey, at <a href="http://satyamag.com/sept05/greger.html" target="_blank">http://satyamag.com/sept05/greger.html</a>
 

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Definitely try agave nectar! I just had it for the first time a few weeks ago, and it's phenomenal. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:">
 

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i will definitely try the agave nectar .. i am not vegan (am vegetarian) and until joining this board new very little about it so i do appreciate the replies .. i recently discovered several things to contain ingredients that shocked me so i was really wondering if there was more to the honey thing ..
 

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This Honey issue has been covered many times over. Please use the Search function, there must be a dozen threads on why honey isn't vegan.<br><br><br><br>
But, another question, what do bees do with the honey if they make it in trees on their own? Is it used for anything specific, or just to build a big honeycomb house? I've never really known this about honey.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Coney</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
This Honey issue has been covered many times over. Please use the Search function, there must be a dozen threads on why honey isn't vegan.</div>
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wow ..<br><br><br><br>
honestly i realize it isn't vegan .. i saw that in several posts i was just trying to figure out if it is something i should eat as a vegetarian .. that is why i was asking if there was more to it ..<br><br><br><br>
i am learning a lot right now and i do appreciate everyones replies
 

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lol do a search for honey. only thread clearly about honey is this one.<br><br><br><br>
yeah. search function is REAL helpfull >.>
 

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troub, you would pretty much need to use the Advance Search function to search Thread Titles Only. Honey is discussed too frequently inside of every imaginable thread, that you need to only look at the titles.<br><br><br><br>
But, I think the above posts were more than enough helpful to answer the OP, so I don't know why someone suggested searching for MORE threads on the topic. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 
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