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Hi, all. I know that this subject has been touched upon before, but I need some help (thanks again, shewolf and epski!):<br><br><br><br>
My mom has 2 chihuahuas and she is very into the organic/ fresh foods thing. One of them has some skin issues and she is interested in looking into feeding them homemade food. My Mom is not veg*n, but IS very concerned with the organic movement, and also doesn't eat much meat.<br><br><br><br>
Can those of you who actually DO feed homemade help here?<br><br><br><br>
Additionally, I, too, would be interested in feeding my dogs homemade food. It would probably bother me to have to handle meat to feed them. I have 4 chihuahuas myself.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway - any and all suggestions would be SO great. Thanks!
 

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I don't have a dog as of yet, but I got the book Vegetarian Dogs and it has a lot of recipes for making homemade foods. If you're interested, the website is <a href="http://www.vegetariandogs.com" target="_blank">www.vegetariandogs.com</a> or I can PM you some of the recipes that are in it along with their nutritional breakdown ( there's nothing difficult or weird about the ingredients, mainly lentils, brown rice, carrots, wheat germ, ect. ).
 

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EquiPro: That's the website I was referring to that I'd posted in another thread. It looked great.
 

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If you have a problem with feeding meat to your dogs, don't look at this page. LOL<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.bluegrace.com/barf.html" target="_blank">http://www.bluegrace.com/barf.html</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.willowglen.com/barf.htm" target="_blank">http://www.willowglen.com/barf.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.barfdiet.com/" target="_blank">http://www.barfdiet.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Commercial pet foods<br><br><a href="http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=79" target="_blank">http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=79</a><br><br><a href="http://www.wholisticanimal.com/commercialfood.html" target="_blank">http://www.wholisticanimal.com/commercialfood.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Petfood.html" target="_blank">http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Petfood.html</a><br><br><br><br>
There are lots more....<br><br><br><br>
Skin allergies are usually food related (if not localised). Get rid of grains first, then she should try cutting back to basics and start gradually reintroducing foods to try and identify the problem food. But if the dog has been on commercial food then it probably has a lot to do with this.<br><br><br><br>
Also, when taking a dog off commercial and putting them onto a raw food diet they go through a system cleansing period... depending on how old the dog this might be quite revolting. Mojo suffered from extra eye discharge for a week (quite a mild response), but Khan was fine. The body is expelling these toxins, and this is quite normal.
 

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I also want to add: that vegetarian dogs site has several bits of information that I strongly disagree with, including cooking vegetables (destroys the enzymes needed), using lots of grains, and breads and pasta are fine in moderation only, not as a bulk of food. Food should be as raw as possible for dogs as they need the enzymes even more than we do (they have a very different digestive tract).
 

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The veterinarians that created the recipe for the dogs I dog-sit must disagree, because I feed them each 1.5 cups (uncooked measure) of long-grain brown basmati rice every night, along with a bunch of other <i>un</i>cooked goodies.
 

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I used to feed my dogs white rice, and they didn't have a problem. But I'm still not willing to take the risk anymore. Rice is apparently one of the grains that they handle okay (cooked, one of the very few things that NEEDS to be cooked) but I would never base their diet on grains. They do not have the same nutiritional needs as us.<br><br><br><br>
Feel free to disagree with me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Doesn't bother me.
 

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I'm not disagreeing, I don't think. They cook the rice, they add veggie dogs, nutritional yeast, milled flax seed and vegenaise. And that's all for dinner. Breakfast is Natural Life vegetarian dog food, which is nutritionally balanced as well, poured like cereal into their bowls with soy milk.<br><br><br><br>
They seem happy, healthy. They're like little kids. The most awesome dogs I've ever known. Their godparents, the vets, are the Greeks. You may know them from their published works, which you might be able to find at Amazon.com.
 

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I feed my dogs home made food as well. I feel that grains are just find as long as it's not wheat or corn. Rice is quite common to use, especially for dogs with food allergies....I would recommend using brown rice though because white rice is pretty much just starch. There's also oats, millet, barley, etc.....cooked. They also get vegetables....I chop them very fine in the food processor and blanch them for a few seconds so as not to destroy the enzymes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> I've read that dogs should avoid the nightshade variety of fruits and vegetables so I just don't give them that. Vegetables in their diet is much more important than fruits...however the occasional fruit IS needed. Figs are actually very good for dogs. I've read in MANY places that you should avoid giving dogs too much of fats....so when they do get fats...it's the occasional nuts and also flax oil three times a week....and the occasional slices of avocado....these are all very good for the skin. Their protein source is beans and grains...I always be sure to mash the beans so it's easier to digest. They both fell in love instantly with their new diet. Most importantly, they DIDN'T have diarrhea like dogs do when you change their food! Even though this is the case, I still feel that I should be giving them enzymes, so I just got them in the mail and have begun giving it to them. The only other supplements they take is nutritional yeast and this stuff called "Vegepet"....here's the link (they sell yeast as well, but I prefer the nutritional yeast):<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.eurekamontana.com/vegepet/fordogs.html" target="_blank">http://www.eurekamontana.com/vegepet/fordogs.html</a><br><br><br><br>
I only have one dog that has the actual major skin problems...and she is doing remarkably well since the change in her diet. I am so glad that we didn't have to resort to cortisone shots! It also helps that she gets a soothing aloe vera bath every one to two weeks. I've also found that pure aloe vera gel works great for hot spots...and for every skin problem actually. Good luck. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'm definitely going to do this. In fact, I have started already. I do have a charity case chihuahua that had to have all of her teeth removed (what was left of them), but since she can grind up small kibble, I am assuming that she'll be able to eat this stuff, too. Does anyone have a toothless dog that they feed home made dog food?<br><br><br><br>
I will convert them all over to homemade food after we come back from a 2 week vacation. While we are gone, my dogs stay at my vets, who loves them and is good to them, but is pretty old fashioned and probably wouldn't be interested in dealing with homemade food. After I get the thing down to a science, I'll be able to get it worked out before we board them again.<br><br><br><br>
I fed my dogs some leftoever steamed rice, some leftoever eggdrop soup, some leftover green beans and an egg ( I even broke up half of the shell and fed it to them, as one of the b.a.r.f. sites recommended.) they really liked it, and it wasn't hard at all.<br><br><br><br>
I'll look into the rest. Thanks for the posts.
 

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You can also freeze batches of the food once you make it and give that to the vet....and I believe that it would work fine for a dog with no teeth assuming that you grind everything up real good and use enzymes.
 

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Thanks, Herself. Have you done this before? If I did the freezer thing, would you do it in indivdual portions or what. Would you let it thaw or just feed it to them frozen (it's HOT here in San Antonio right now). That seems like a better solution to handling meat all of the time. What enzymes do you suggest? Does a person need to feed a vitamin?<br><br><br><br>
I have a large chest freezer which would make that easy. I hate handling raw meat.<br><br><br><br>
If I also feed the cat this diet, would that work? I'll research b.a.r.f. for cats.
 

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Yes, I do this when I really need to. It might be easier for you and your vet to freeze individual portions...and thawing is fine. Yes, you should give a vitamin/mineral supplement and enzymes...there's a link to a wonderful source in my above post. They have stuff for cats too. And it comes with recipes as well...which is extremely helpful. I however, think there's too much soy being used in many of them. Make sure you know what you're doing if you decide to do this with your cat. How old is he/she?
 

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have you considered dumpstering food? i don't know if you're into that kinda stuff, but some of my friends have an entirely freegan kitten because petco throws out so much good pet food
 

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I find that a very interesting idea, however, my thoughts are to move away from the chemicals, processing and packaging produced by commercial dog food.<br><br><br><br>
One of the sites had some very interesting ideas on how to feed cheaply:<br><br><br><br>
pulp from stores that juice for the veggie part<br><br>
chicken heads, feet, necks etc. - either given free or very cheaply<br><br>
etc.<br><br><br><br>
A friend of mine said that Fuddruckers's - a local burger place - cuts and grinds their own meat, and will sell meaty bones very cheaply.<br><br><br><br>
I'm going to look into these ideas and I'll report back.
 
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