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Newbie here, love the community and here is my problem..<br><br>
I am a vegetarian now for about 20 years and one thing that bothers me that all these powerful celebrities and business people never really attempted to create a high protein veggie steak or some form of solid food!<br><br>
I have a real problem keeping weight since i do lots of training and whey protein isn't really that good to be had on a daily basis, you really get sick of it!<br><br>
Meat is supposed to be a high protein food yet it is only approximately 20-25% protein!<br>
Protein bars,yolk,amino acid pills, whey, and all the other junk is really not giving me pleasure like pizza or pasta, while a carnivore can eat good and tasty food and not add carbohydrates to his meals and stay lean!<br><br>
Am i missing something and there is some rich peoples little shop, some place in the Hamptons or do most of you guys not even attempt to go to the fitness?
 

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How about legumes and nuts? Works for the rest of us.
 

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How about legumes and nuts? Works for the rest of us.</div>
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who is the rest of you? Some tribe living in India?<br><br>
well this is good food if you are a monk, but i do not want to have 100 pounds and look all girly!<br><br>
I think that by now somebody should have experimented with extracting protein from plants and or combining with ingredients to make it presentable...
 

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>vegetarian<br>
>plant foods<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Yugos</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2946172"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
who is the rest of you? Some tribe living in India?</div>
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The people on this forum <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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well this is good food if you are a monk</div>
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It's great food for anyone who's not allergic to nuts and beans. There are plenty of people who aren't monks or vegan/vegetarian who eat these things <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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, but i do not want to have 100 pounds and look all girly!</div>
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When your training, you're not going to get fat, now are you? Actually, if you're training, you can use the extra calories. Calories are good, and the body needs the healthy fats from plant foods. Also, having too little body fat is unhealthy anyway.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I think that by now somebody should have experimented with extracting protein from plants and or combining with ingredients to make it presentable...</div>
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It's done all the time in the form of meat replacements, and when you know where to look, there's plenty of those products to find. I buy vegan sausages made of wheat protein. One 100 gram sausage contains 27 grams of protein. I usually eat the whole pack of three sausages, which amounts to 81 grams of protein, and that's on top of the other things I eat during the day. It's easy to get a lot of protein from plant based food.<br><br>
Anyway, what do you consider to be a large amount of protein?
 

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The people on this forum <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br>
It's great food for anyone who's not allergic to nuts and beans. There are plenty of people who aren't monks or vegan/vegetarian who eat these things <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br>
When your training, you're not going to get fat, now are you? Actually, if you're training, you can use the extra calories. Calories are good, and the body needs the healthy fats from plant foods. Also, having too little body fat is unhealthy anyway.<br><br><br>
It's done all the time in the form of meat replacements, and when you know where to look, there's plenty of those products to find. I buy vegan sausages made of wheat protein. One 100 gram sausage contains 27 grams of protein. I usually eat the whole pack of three sausages, which amounts to 81 grams of protein, and that's on top of the other things I eat during the day. It's easy to get a lot of protein from plant based food.<br><br>
Anyway, what do you consider to be a large amount of protein?</div>
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If you are cutting down it is impossible with larger intakes of carbs! Getting mass, yes you need protein and carbs!<br><br>
Im right now at 110kg at 1,90m<br>
I would like to get to 90 or 95kg and i already achieved it with 1h a day cardio and weights and 20-30g of carbs and just whey! but i could not stand the taste and gained it all back!<br>
See the vultures can eat the meat every day and have satisfaction while i just felt like i had none!<br><br><br>
Now even if you do this you are in those 3 months always hungry and looking pale!<br>
I have tried also egg whites but i seem to get poisoned if i eat them for a longer period!<br><br>
The thing is, this diet works but you must also eat regular food, you cannot be on substitutes!<br><br>
What are those sausages you are eating?<br>
thanx 4 the info..
 

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I am lean & muscular and get my protein from fruit and vegetables, esp. leafy greens. How many grams are you shooting for a day?
 

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20-30g of carbs and just whey</div>
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That's horrifying!<br><br>
Why bother with a vegetarian diet at all if you're just going to eat your own bodyweight in egg whites and whey powder? :S
 

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Erm, this post sounds a bit fishy. 200g really....??</div>
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Nah, it's not all that unlikely.<br><br>
2g per kg bw isn't unhealthy, nor is it excessive.
 

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my bad, sounds hectic as I am only on 50g a day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cool3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cool:">
 

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Meat is supposed to be a high protein food yet it is only approximately 20-25% protein!</div>
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By weight. In terms of macronutrient split it's most definitely "high protein".<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">but i do not want to have 100 pounds and look all girly!</div>
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Don't think there's much danger of that tubs <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Erm, this post sounds a bit fishy. 200g really....??</div>
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200g isn't so much really. Most definitely difficult to get on a vege diet if you're eating 'real' food though.
 

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I'd say your best option is seitan (but it does have carbs), and I do hope you eat fruits and veggies despite their carbs to keep your micronutrient intake high and get some antioxidants.
 

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I tend to lean more towards high fat than high protein. When I do feel the need to up my protein, however, I am a fan of hemp powder.<br><br>
I go through coconut like an addict. Decent source protein if you're not worried about the dietary fat, which I'm not, as I consider it to be a benefit rather than a detriment.<br><br>
Soy is a fairly typical recommendation. Aside from simply being high in protein, it happens to contain more types of different amino acids than most other high protein veggie foods, so it's reputation is not undeserved. Balancing these different types can be more important than pure numbers. If you are getting 200g a day but it is all from primarily the same source, then chances are you are only getting certain amino acids while others are being ignored, and a large portion of that 200g is going to end up being completely useless. If you've got 150 right gloves and 50 left gloves, you've only got gloves for 50 people, not 100 :p Forgive my cheesy analogy, I just woke up :/ The point is that variety is more important than pure numbers. The daily recommendations are a bit simplified to avoid confusing us simple non-scientific people, partially because those recommendations were made on the assumption that most of us are getting our protein from meat and the good old "3 glass of milk per day" which, though they don't necessarily contain more protein, do contain a greater variety of different types of protein. Protein loading as a vegetarian is certainly possible, but it is not as straight forward as it is for an omnivore.<br><br>
I mentioned in another thread that people who are worried about carbs from fruits can go for fruits with a higher glucose to fructose ratio, like berries, and avoid fruits with a higher fructose ratio, like bananas and grapes. Your body handles glucose much differently than it handles fructose.
 

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And if you're interested, you could take a look at this guy's website, Brendan Brazier. <a href="http://myvega.com/team-vega/brendan-brazier/biography" target="_blank">http://myvega.com/team-vega/brendan-brazier/biography</a> and then this series of little info videos: <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><a href="http://www.brendanbrazier.com/vega/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.brendanbrazier.com/vega/index.html</a></span> Vegan triathelete, author, speaker, etc. I'm sure if you took a look at some of his stuff you might find something that is of help to you.<br><br>
There is also Robert Cheeke, <a href="http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_robert" target="_blank">http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_robert</a> and if you follow the page down I think he gives an outline of the foods that he eats and how he organizes his diet.
 

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And if you're interested, you could take a look at this guy's website, Brendan Brazier. <a href="http://myvega.com/team-vega/brendan-brazier/biography" target="_blank">http://myvega.com/team-vega/brendan-brazier/biography</a> and then this series of little info videos: <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><a href="http://www.brendanbrazier.com/vega/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.brendanbrazier.com/vega/index.html</a></span> Vegan triathelete, author, speaker, etc. I'm sure if you took a look at some of his stuff you might find something that is of help to you.<br><br>
There is also Robert Cheeke, <a href="http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_robert" target="_blank">http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_robert</a> and if you follow the page down I think he gives an outline of the foods that he eats and how he organizes his diet.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> this is what I was going to say. I am reading "Thrive" for the third time and really trying lots more of the recipes and noticing a huge difference in my training
 
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