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My house flooded a few months ago, everything got ripped out and replaced. My mom decided to buy a huge leather sofa (i know, i know it disgusts me too) even though we have two dogs a chihuahua and puggle. The chihuahua is too small and light to inflict any damage to it, but my puggle ripped the seam and my mom flipped ****. Being coldhearted and downright selfish she decided that a sofa was worth more than a family pet we've had for four years. She threatened me to either find him a home or take him to a shelter. THE PLAN WAS; to give him to my boyfriend's friend until we moved into our apartment and then we'd take him. I was weary about doing this because I knew there was a chance I wouldn't get him back because people tend to get too attached, but I just couldnt give him to a shelter. I couldnt do that to him. I literally cried my eyes out for days because of this. ANYWAY, his friend wasn't taking care of him and his grandmom said the dog wasn't allowed to stay there so my boyfriend's friend gave him to his father. NOW MY BOYFRIEND IS SAYING I CAN'T HAVE HIM BACK. I'm on the verge of crying typing this....I want him back SO badly. Too make matters worse I found out where my dog was staying and scoped it out. Even from the outside it's a sh*thole. Cluttered porch with a bunch of sh*t outside and very unkept. I asked my boyfriend if it was as crappy on the inside and he said yes because they are poor. (no excuse to be a slob though!) I'm literally sick over this. Like I dont know these people and I don't know how these people are treating him. What if he gets into something and chokes since it is so messy...and to make matters worse my boyfriend isn't friends with the kid anymore because he is on drugs!!! I'm honestly considering "stealing" him back. I know this is wrong, but that wasn't the agreement AT ALL. I'm really about to drive by until I see him in there yard and snatch him up. PLUS, I have all of his paperwork and he is almost due for a rabies shot. OBVIOUSLY, these people have no intent in taking him to a vet because I have the damn papers! I don't know what to do <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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also realized i put this in the wrong section sorrry =/ i just need feedback, i value everyone's advice!
 

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I think you need to get police involved (oh god can't believe I'm suggesting this) Tell them they will not give your dog back, or tell them the living conditions are horrendous. Also, call the actual people who have your dog and tell them if they do not give him up then you will have feds involved. Anyone with drugs wont want that.. Isn't there some kind of animal police that can help with this?
 

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i have no idea about animal police , I need to look into that. (maybe someone has some info on it?!)<br>
his friend doesnt live at his dad's house where my dog is... so the whole drug use and cops arriving thing won't scare them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br>
ugh this is def going to cause conflict between me and my boyfriend, but I don't care. I literally can't sleep over this! He isn't going to be properly taken care of If they aren't going to take him to the vet!
 

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I almost cried just reading this. I was gonna get a juggle before I found my pug, I couldn't imagine losing my puggle/pug, especially to someone that wouldn't take care of him. Does your boyfriend realize that your piglet is like your child, it's a member of your family? I agree about getting the police involved. If the parents live in a cheap place anyway theyll hopefully just give him back so they dont have to get a lawyer or get in trouble or anything.<br><br>
Honestly if it was my dog, I'd do everything I can, breaking in or whatever I need to to get him back, but I'd do it on impulse so definitely don't take my advice, it's better to call the police and tell them what's going on and show them your paperwork showing your his owner. The police would be your best bet because stolen dogs are treated like stolen property in the law, though I think it should be kdnapping
 

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thanks for the feedback guys<3<br>
im def going to talk to my friend's mom whos a cop about it as soon as possible.<br>
the ONLY thing is I can't contact these people I don't even know them.<br>
I honestly don't even know if my boyfriend like demanded him back or not!<br>
then he tried to pull the sob story card with my like his friend's dad has two fake legs or something so he needs the dog.<br>
i'm sorry, it's a shame that his legs were amputated, but get your own dog <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> ughhhh
 

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I don't know how helpful this could be, but you mentioned going up and waiting until you see the Puggle out and then take him home. I was watching a show once about animal cops, and there was this dog that was emaciated and left without food or water for a long time, but they couldn't get him out because he was on their property. They kept coming back to see if the owners would show so they could release him to the cops, and one of the times they showed up they addressed the dog and called to him and he crawled out through a hole in the fence. Because he wasn't on the property anymore, they were legally allowed to take him without any notification to the owner or release signature because he was then considered a stray and they could keep him.<br><br>
So my perfectly legal idea is that you could drive up to see your dog, preferably when these people aren't home, if you happen to know when that is, or wait until they leave. Since they don't seem to care for the dog and they have a poor condition home, their backyard may have bad fencing and not be dogproof to digging, or have holes in it, under it, or between each fence panel. You could call your dog and clap your hands, and if the fence is see through like a chain link, maybe wave around a strong smelling treat that he likes for a while and see if he can find a way out somehow or dig out or push open a fence or something. If he is successful it would be completely legal then to take him home.
 

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Thread moved for ya.<br><br>
Ummm...when you gave this pug to the boyfriends' friend, did he know he was going to give it back? Do these people know that they are taking care of someone else's dog? Have you even talked to them?<br><br>
Honestly, if your boyfriend is sticking up for you in this, he sounds like he's pretty crappy.
 

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Yeah, I was wondering everything dormouse said. I was thinking maybe you should try to get their number and talk to them and explain your situation and how much you care about your dog and everything. If you cant get the number maybe you could end up knocking on their door and explaining or something if yur boyfriend won't give you the number
 

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I agree with dormouse. You should try talking to these people first, in a calm and rational manner and explain the situation. They may be totally unaware. As far as we know, the friend may have just told his dad he had a dog for him if he wanted one. What reason did your boyfriend give for saying you couldn't have the dog back, other than the fact that the man needs him because he is disabled?
 

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You should definitely go talk to the people. They might actually be quite reasonable and give your pooch back.<br><br>
Short of this, you might consider speaking with an attorney. Since you have documentation, showing your ownership, it might give you leverage in a court. I know this sounds lousy, but it's a bad situation. I hope you get him back soon.
 

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If you talk to them and they still won't give him back, maybe you can offer to buy them a dog? At my local pound, we have an event every month where all dogs, puppies, cats, exotic cats, and kittens are $20, and include the neutering or spaying, a bag of food, basic litterbox and small pack of litter (for cats) or small pack of puppy pads and poop bags (for dogs) and a welcome it with packets on pet care and stuff. You should check if your local shelter or their local shelter has specials like this where they have big events to go with them to get a new friend. Helping them find a new animal would be far cheaper than the lawyer fees and such of having to take them to court, and you'll be helping rehome a new animal in the process.
 

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I agree to try talking to them first, and if that doesn't work get the police and a lawyer involved. If you gave the dog to your boyfriend to take care of and then he gave it away, you will definitly get it back because you weren't trying to find the pup a forever home, just a temporary home - and your boyfriend knew that. All that matters is that you had an agreement with your boyfriend - it doesn't matter what was said between him and the guy that has the dog now (whether your bf told him he could keep the dog doesn't matter from a legal standpoint because you had a verbal contract with your boyfriend). The fact that you still have the dog's paperwork will back that up too (kind of like having the deed to a car that was stolen from you).
 

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Yeah, you expected your boyfriend to petsit the dog, not give it away, so I think as log as you make it clear he agreed to petsit while you found a home to live with your dog then you'll probably get it back.
 

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okay im going to try and answer everyone's questions briefly.<br>
-yes his friend was aware that he was just going to watch him until we moved into our apartment his words "oh yeah mean NO PROBLEM i wanna help you guys out"<br>
-i have NO idea if this kid told his father that he wasn't keeping the dog forever, i asked my boyfriend this and he kinda brushed me off and was like, i dont know!<br>
-attorney? im like working min. wage and paying for a hotel every night..i have NO extra cash whatsoever right now & im back in school so i can't work as much=less $ <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> ughhh<br>
-i'm considering knocking on their door, but I def. need someone with me! My boyfriend wants nothing to do with it, he is like I'll get you a new dog it just didn't work out... he doest understand he wasn't allowed to have a pet...<br>
-i wouldn't buy them a new dog because their living conditions are sh*t. Honestly, if the house was in good condition and if they asked my boyfriend for the dog's papers and had INTENTIONS on taking him to the vet then i would consider leaving him there because I understand that yes, I took a risk by letting someone "dog watch" him, but this is just unreasonable.... do they honestly think you can just have a dog and thats it? no shots or anything?? I don't want a dog to be put into that situation!
 

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If you decide to go talk to them, I agree, you should not go alone. Find someone to go with you.<br>
I might even make a phone call/visit to a police station and fill them in on the situation. They may have some helpful advice. You want to start out in a very positive manner and not come across as antagonistic, as if hopefully, this was all a misunderstanding but one that needs to be rectified immediately.
 

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yeah, im gonna go there~! I'm just nervous. Wish me luck & I'll def keep everyone updated on the situation.<br>
thankyou so much everyon!
 

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Good luck, Jessica.
 

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This would not of happened if your mother would not been selfish on her part for this dog, The didn't know better why take the ripped couch out of a dog that didn't know better? Your mother should go with you to pick up the dog and she should apologize for having the dog in this condition. IF she just gotten the leather couch it should've been under warrenity or she could've had no problem getting it fixed. I am tired of people purchasing stuff that are nice and taking it out on their pets, my parents does this and they hit their dogs with a newspaper if they have an accident on their nice furniture, why do you have dogs when you have nice furnature?
 

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exactly.<br>
first off me and my mom have a horrible relationship. she pretty much ruined my life, but i wont get into that.<br>
and what's worse she has a warranty and it got fixed. she doesnt care.
 
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