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I'm new here and just want to begin with a brief intro. I'm a vegetarian subsisting on a variety of beans and grains and fruits and vegetables. I do eat organic cheese (goat and sheep only) and organic free-range eggs once in a great while. whenever its my turn to cook on Thanksgiving I cook a wild salmon on Thanksgiving (with side dishes of hummus, bean soup, real wild rice, potatoes, and for dessert tofu pumpkin pie) but no meat or fowl ever.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, I've been gravitating towards vegetarianism since I was 20 but would only try it for a few weeks or months at a time. I made the full change in 1992 largely for environmental reasons but also for health since meat is loaded with pesticides when compared to beans and rice.<br><br><br><br>
I choose the name "redbeans" because it is the opposite of "redmeat". Think about all the animal names we give to plants: marrow squash, kidney beans, marrow beans, pinto beans, cowpeas, oyster plant, crab apple, bloodroot and so on.<br><br><br><br>
Well, that's it for now. There's a profile of me somewhere on this site.
 

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Welcome to VB!<br><br>
Just curious, why do you only eat goat's and sheep's cheese? Do you believe it to be preferable to cow's cheese ethically/health-wise? I haven't done any research on this myself so I'm a little confused.
 

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The cheese issue goats and sheep vs cows is sort of an ethical choice. Cows just take up so much more space and feed than goats and sheep. As far as I know no one is giving them bovine growth hormone. Goats and sheep are usually grass fed, too. Besides I think their cheeses have more interesting flavors.<br><br><br><br>
However, I do limit my use of dairy products- cholesterol, etc. I'm going to be making a winter squash lasagna next week with tofu and a small amount of goat feta and myzithra.<br><br><br><br>
On another note I suppose everyone here has heard about the FDA and its move towards cloning animals used for meat and milk. I was recently asked if I would eat meat if it were raised from cells in vitro rather than on the hoof. It is possible to do this. Since [ in vitro meat sidesteps raising animals and slaughtering them would this not eliminate the cruelty aspect of meat eating? You could take a few cells from a hog and grow them into porkchops. Any thoughts?
 

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Welcome. I feel the same way about non-cow cheese in terms of ethics and taste, although I am trying to stay away from all dairy cheese nowadays.<br><br><br><br>
As for the in-vitro meat thing, I still haven't decided. The idea kinda grosses me out, but i might try it if there is no cruelty involved. I'm not that interested though because I am perfectly happy and healthy without meat. The mock meats that are available are enough for me, and I don't crave those very often at all.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>redbeans</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The cheese issue goats and sheep vs cows is sort of an ethical choice. Cows just take up so much more space and feed than goats and sheep. As far as I know no one is giving them bovine growth hormone. Goats and sheep are usually grass fed, too. Besides I think their cheeses have more interesting flavors.<br><br><br><br>
However, I do limit my use of dairy products- cholesterol, etc. I'm going to be making a winter squash lasagna next week with tofu and a small amount of goat feta and myzithra.<br><br><br><br>
On another note I suppose everyone here has heard about the FDA and its move towards cloning animals used for meat and milk. I was recently asked if I would eat meat if it were raised from cells in vitro rather than on the hoof. It is possible to do this. Since [ in vitro meat sidesteps raising animals and slaughtering them would this not eliminate the cruelty aspect of meat eating? You could take a few cells from a hog and grow them into porkchops. Any thoughts?</div>
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I saw this kinda late but thanks for explaining <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I'm undecided on in vitro meat myself. There would still be the issue of 'harvesting' the cells and I don't kow enough about it.
 

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Its hard to give up good cheese, though. What do you think of soy, rice, and almond cheese substitutes?<br><br><br><br>
The mock meats are good usually. I've tried soy burgers, franks, and bratwurst. The franks had tough skins. The bratwurst tasted about as good as a regular meat bratwurst but was not as greasy.<br><br><br><br>
The ultimate source for meat cells would be a live animal but if they were merely rubbed off the skin or swabbed from the mouth I doubt any pain would be involved. It s an interesting idea. Some human body parts have been made using cell cultures so its possible to grow a steak from a skin cell. Whether I'd eat it is another matter. I would want to know just how pure the cell lines are
 

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Hi farouz, what is mochi?</div>
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The stuff I was referring to is red bean flavored ice cream wrapped inside mochi (a sticky rice cake of sorts). Yum!
 

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Ice cream? Bean flavored? What kind of red beans are these? Do you make this or is it possible to buy it?<br><br><br><br>
The only bean ice cream I know of is soy.
 
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