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I love veganism, and being vegan for ethics. I love not eating animals and not contributing to cruelty through eggs, dairy, shampoo, toothpaste, etc. However, a couple things have been bothering me lately.<br><br><br><br>
I've been incredibly tired and run down lately, and I don't know if it's due to veganism or not, but I haven't gotten my blood tested yet. I will soon. However, if it is because of veganism, this is due to the fact that I am not a great cook. I don't have time to cook vegan meals. I try to eat as best I can. I do take a multivitamin, the Veglife one that has basically everything in it, but I know that's not enough if I'm not getting enough of something (probably protein/iron/maybe calcium). Does anyone have any quick, healthy meal ideas that include these things? Preferably ones that are portable (for lunches)?<br><br><br><br>
The second thing: It is so, so hard to find good vegan food outside of my own home. I feel like a pain to the waitstaff whenever I go out to eat, and I never even feel like I'm eating anything I enjoy (I usually end up with a salad ). I know this is just going to get harder in college, because I'll be virtually poor. If I forget to pack a lunch for school one day, there are only two vegan things I can buy: Original sunchips (which are good) and Smucker's Uncrustables (which are yuck for your body, and really don't taste all that great). I don't really know what advice I'm asking for on this one... maybe some ideas? I don't know. I guess I'm just complaining about it. Can't they sell, like, fruit and vegetables? Or packaged peanuts or something?<br><br><br><br>
And finally... The social thing. Most people are pretty accepting when they find out I'm a vegetarian, but once they hear vegan, they start asking me all these questions, and want to know why I don't drink milk, what's wrong with it, etc. I HATE telling them. If they ask to know, I know I shouldn't feel like I'm preaching, but I still do. I know how people see vegans: Hippies who eat carrots, basically. I was reading a book, and I believe the phrase was "Vulgar raw food freak". I'm just worried that people won't want to get to know me because they think I'm going to hide their cheese from them or something (I know, I know, if they don't want to get to know me because of that they're not worth getting to know).<br><br><br><br>
I just need some support, please.
 

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About the social aspect, you need to remind them that they asked and you are entitled to <i>your</i> opinion, just as much as they are entitled to theirs. It is your belief system and you're right, if they are going to reject you because of your diet, then they're losers and are not worth your time.<br><br><br><br>
As per feeling run down and tired, I can't say much on that. Wait for your blood test results and I can make a better conclusion. I'm always that way, but I was before I went vegan since I was diagnosed with anemia a couple years before my transition. I also take a multivitamin with a B12 vitamin, but it doesn't always help. This feeling could also be caused by excessive stress and/or depression. A strain on your mind and spirit can become a strain on your physical body.<br><br><br><br>
Going out to eat, well, being a pain is pretty much part of your job as a consumer. Just be polite and there shouldn't be a huge issue. I don't go out to eat, ever, but when I did I looked for places that served good vegan dishes or places where it was insanely easy to have my dish veganized. You could check out buffets in your area ... no wait staff! Unfortunately I have noticed that there still is not a whole lot for vegans except fruit. I' like the occassional vegetable salad, but fruit salad?!?! Man ... that's good stuff. More fruit in your diet [I don't know how much you're getting] may also help your fatigue problem.<br><br><br><br>
Best of luck! I know how it is. With all my food allergies to grains and vegetables and my cross-reaction to fruit it has been very hard to keep my body running. Don't give up so easy, we're here to help and see you through this. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"> You can do it!
 

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Alli - please be sure you eat a good breakfast <i><b>every</b></i> day. It will help your whole day go better, all day long. Have a peanut butter and banana sandwich, have oatmeal, have a bean burrito! Have something filling and nutritious, and it will help you get through the day if you come across some dietary difficulties. Also, always have something you can eat with you. Have a baggie of almonds or walnuts with raisins in your purse or backpack. Take a larabar where ever you go - try not to allow yourself to be caught with no options.<br><br><br><br>
I know it must be hard now socially, but I promise it will get easier as you get older. In college it will probably be really cool for you to be vegan - and you may find some friends who want to try it with your help.<br><br><br><br>
Get some good sleep, eat well ,and get some fresh air and exercise everyday. Keep yourself healthy - that's the most important thing you can do.
 

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hey, maybe things are rough but remember that this choice was something you made. whatever poor reactions they give you are their own problems, in truth. they'll have to deal with missing out on you, not vice versa.<br><br>
they're likely not one sided and will get to know you beyond what you eat, but if need be, just speak with a gentle tone. let them know you're not a cause for alarm, but just trying to do something you feel is right when they ask about your veganism.<br><br><br><br>
as for eating out, i'm stuck with one option everywhere i go too, and i agree that college probably won't be easy either. perhaps try calling ahead of time when you go some place to find out if they've got options for you, even if it's just something simple like stir fry they make last minute. calling ahead can save you alot of agony. sometimes you may have troubles even when you do all your homework, but no one ever goes without some kind of kink in the road, whether it's small or large. speaking as someone who's grown accustomed to eating a baked potato everywhere she goes, or sometimes nothing at all, it's difficult but if you can find something small to snack on until you go elsewhere, maybe try that. if need be, it might help to bring a snack or something along with you wherever you go.<br><br><br><br>
as for college, many campuses have changed the menus to suit vegans or at the least, vegetarians. if you're planning on going to a certain college at this point, you might be able to dig through the internet to find out what they offer in their cafeteria. even if they don't offer choices themselves, there might be a deli off campus that offers something.<br><br><br><br>
your energy may have to do with your vegetable and fruit intake too. if you're not getting enough of them, that could take a toll on your health, making you tired. also, dehydration makes you tired as well. good luck.
 

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When I was in college, there was a very cheap, popular Chinese place near campus. I wasn't vegetarian then, but I'm sure they could have come up with something vegan for me. Maybe you'll have some options like that.<br><br><br><br>
I have no idea what you're eating...maybe you're lacking in something? I'm sure people here would have suggestions if they knew what your usual diet was like.<br><br><br><br>
I'm surprised that you don't like to tell people why you've chosen to be vegan. I guess it could get a little tiring, but I'm fairly new to this and haven't had that experience. I like to tell people - but there is so much information that it can be difficult to decide where to begin. We need a condensed answer. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
Don't give up if it's what you believe in. You can get lots of good information here and elsewhere. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Hi, Al!<br><br><br><br>
First, I want to say that you are not the first person to go through this. I went through the same thing, mostly around college time. My only suggestion is to pack some easy food for yourself, and check with the college to see if they have Vegan options at any of their dining courts.<br><br><br><br>
As a vegan, eating out is certainly a pain in the ass. Not only do we have the problem of trying to communicate what Veganism is to the staff of restaurants, but the food that we *can* order is usually dull and crappy anyway. don't get me wrong: Salad is good. It is only when it is ten dollars that I question it.<br><br>
Despite all of the horrors that I have faced when eating out, I somehow still find myself sitting in a restaurant now and then. Every time I end up questioning the food and swearing not to eat out again, but I just can't refuse when someone offers to take me to a restaurant offering vegetarian food. "They can easily make it Vegan", I state. One day, I will make good on my promise and will pack my own food when going out instead, but until then: Over-expensive salads will have to do.<br><br><br><br>
Now, as for your health: I also went through what you are describing. However, it gradually went away. If you are taking a multivitamin, then I would check if it has B12 and Iron in it, or at least make sure that you are getting sufficient amounts of these vitamins. If you are, then I would guess that depression or stress could be your problem. Sadly, I am no doctor. I know that comes as a shock, but you have to believe it.<br><br><br><br>
Allie, I wish you the best. I have been to where you currently stand, and I gave in only to find that it was a bad move to do so. Sometimes being Vegan means that we have to accept the limited choices and sociability that follows. We live in a carnivors world, and no matter how much we try to change that, the progress appears to be heading quite slow.<br><br><br><br>
Heres to the hopes that you are able to feel better soon! Good luck, and keep us posted. My entry into my Blog tonight dealt with the same issue as you are describing when I went through it. It is a long write-up, but it might help you out to check it out. The link is in my signature.<br><br><br><br>
~Austin~
 

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Also, always have something you can eat with you. Have a baggie of almonds or walnuts with raisins in your purse or backpack. Take a larabar where ever you go - try not to allow yourself to be caught with no options.</div>
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I second this!! I, for many reasons, always take bags of food with me when I go out. I like to have baggies/containers of apple slices, grapes, baby carrots, other seasonal fruit, mixed nuts/dried fruits, luna bars or dry cereal. And when my bf and I go out for the day we like to pack sandwiches and some of the above mentioned foods to take along with us so that we don't go hungry when all we see are fast food/non-veg places. Once you get used to preparing and carrying these snacks with you it will become like second nature and will take no time at all. I don't go anywhere without a bottled water and apple slices. My family likes to call me a boy scout because I am 'always prepared' hehe. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
If you do end up out at a restaurant then I am sure you can ask the manager or the waitstaff for a vegan option. And if there's nothing then at least you have a snack in your bag! I've whipped out my apple slices before and I don't see anything wrong with that. On a side note, I must be one of the only veg*ns who actually LOVES salads. I live for them. So finding a nice veg*n salad at a restaurant is really a treat. I don't eat out very much at all so I guess I don't have a chance to get sick of the lack of choices.<br><br><br><br>
For the lack of passion with being vegan, I think you just have to keep reminding yourself of why you have made this choice. And it is a choice. You can really eat anything you want to eat (barring allergies/diseases). But then would eating meat/dairy/etc be acting in accordance to who you are? Or would you be doing it out of convenience or peer pressure? Sometimes quitting seems like the easiest solution but I always have to remind myself that it's not <i>me</i> who needs to change but the food industries and our society which accepts animal exploitation. If I give in and go back to being omni or even an l/o veg then I will be giving them the power I took back when I stopped silently consenting.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck with all of this. I know how much this stuff can build up and become very problematic I am lucky in that my bf acts as a sounding board for all of my veg*n/AR related frustrations and that helps keep me on track. So if you need to vent, then vent away all you want here and you will definitely get support and understanding.<br><br><br><br>
From one of my favorite poets ever:<br><br><i>"To be nobody-but-yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day,<br><br>
to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting."<br><br>
~E. E. Cummings~</i>
 

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Thank you so much everyone. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I will try everything suggested. My multi does contain B12 and iron. I'm thinking maybe it's stress or depression, like someone else suggested? I'm going through kind of a tough time right now.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">I'm surprised that you don't like to tell people why you've chosen to be vegan. I guess it could get a little tiring, but I'm fairly new to this and haven't had that experience. I like to tell people - but there is so much information that it can be difficult to decide where to begin. We need a condensed answer.</div>
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No, I like telling people I'm vegan... It's when they ask to hear what's wrong with eggs and dairy that I don't like to tell them. I feel like I'm preaching to them, and usually they don't want to hear it, anyway.
 

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No, I like telling people I'm vegan... It's when they ask to hear what's wrong with eggs and dairy that I don't like to tell them. I feel like I'm preaching to them, and usually they don't want to hear it, anyway.</div>
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If they ask, they want to know. It's once you tell them and they do know that suddenly they want to "un-know" it. They feel guilty and ignorant when you tell them these things.<br><br><br><br>
I know. When people ask me I'm very outspoken about it. Some people are shocked and will mention considering going veg*an. Other people will be irked and get defensive about it, but I actually run into this reaction less than I get "Omigosh! Really?!?! No way! That's terrible!"<br><br><br><br>
Remember, they asked and all you're ever doing is giving a factual answer.
 

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<div class="quote-block">If they ask, they want to know. It's once you tell them and they do know that suddenly they want to "un-know" it. They feel guilty and ignorant when you tell them these things.<br><br><br><br>
I know. When people ask me I'm very outspoken about it. Some people are shocked and will mention considering going veg*an. Other people will be irked and get defensive about it, but I actually run into this reaction less than I get "Omigosh! Really?!?! No way! That's terrible!"<br><br><br><br>
Remember, they asked and all you're ever doing is giving a factual answer.</div>
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True. A while ago, when I first went vegan, my friend kept asking me about the conditions of the animals and why I didn't eat eggs or dairy. I would tell her everything I knew, and she was on the verge of going vegetarian, and kept telling me that I got her really motivated on the grounds of animal rights.<br><br><br><br>
Well. A couple months later, she still has her Coach purse, iPod case, and shoes, and is getting a Burberry purse for her birthday. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dizzy2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dizzy:"> And, she's not a vegetarian... I'm pretty sure her parents talked her out of it, they're just like that. Really traditional and everything.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, my point was, people do benefit from it, as long as they ask to hear it.
 

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Agreed. My fiancé's mother hates me because I am a vegan but lies and says she has vegan friends to make it look as if she <i>isn't</i> being a prejudice you-know-what.<br><br><br><br>
She's like so many others who don't want someone "better" around, someone who claims to be doing something better for the world and for animals. But the fact is, we are, and people ought to respect it but it makes them feel inferior because it's not a skill or a talent. It's a belief and a will to do better for the Earth and the beings that share it with us.<br><br><br><br>
People know, they just choose to ignore it for convenience.
 

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Whenever people get funny after asking me about veganism I generally reply "You asked me, so don't get your fanny in a twist." Normally works <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hamster.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hamster:">
 
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