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<a href="http://www.care2.com/greenliving/harvard-declares-dairy-not-part-of-healthy-diet.html?cid=reddit_harvard-declares-dairy-not-part-of-healthy-diet" target="_blank">http://www.care2.com/greenliving/har...f-healthy-diet</a><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">The Harvard School of Public Health sent a strong message to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and nutrition experts everywhere with the recent release of its Healthy Eating Plate food guide. The university was responding to the USDAs new MyPlate guide for healthy eating, which replaced the outdated and misguided food pyramid.<br>
Harvards nutrition experts did not pull punches, declaring that the universitys food guide was based on sound nutrition research and more importantly, <i>not influenced by food industry lobbyists</i>. The greatest evidence of its research focus is the absence of dairy products from the Healthy Eating Plate based on Harvards assessment that high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer. The Harvard experts also referred to the high levels of saturated fat in most dairy products and suggested that collards, bok choy, fortified soy milk, and baked beans are safer choices than dairy for obtaining calcium, as are high quality supplements.<br>
Kudos to Harvard for promoting greater consumption of vegetables and fruits, as well as healthier protein options such as fish, beans or nuts. And kudos to Harvard for ignoring the lobbyists and showing the USDA what healthy eating is all about.</div>
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That's a refreshing change from the usual propaganda <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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People always tend to be threatened by change, but the evidence speaks for itself. After years of hearing that dairy products are essential for healthy bones some skepticism about contradictory information is understandable I think. All we can do is get the information out there and give it time to sink in.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>KrisMTL</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3074323"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Comment section has its fair share of absurdities, though. As per usual.</div>
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I noticed that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> People don't want their idea of what is food threatened.<br><br>
Agreed, people do come around.
 

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This is why I love Harvard as a premier educational institution. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br>
One of my biggest pet peeves is the misconception that dairy products are important for good health. I also wish people would wake up to the fact that we do not need fish in a healthy diet, either, and there are plant alternatives to the omegas found in fish, as well as lacking the mercury invariably found in fish. My sister had spent the last decade or so eating a LOT of fish and then recently had her blood tested - she had excessive amounts of mercury in her blood and had to cut back on fish. I wish so-called nutrition experts would stop recommending fish.<br><br>
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*check nearest milk package* 0,1 % fat!!? THAT'S SOOO MUCH.
 

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This study is confusing, they do not specifically define not to drink milk. They recommed limiting servings to 1-2 a day...</div>
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Still, its something right? Yes they may have recommended to consume <i>fewer</i> servings of dairy, as opposed to completely cutting it out, but all it takes is for one report to go 'dairy really isn't that good for you' for the wheels of change begin to turn, and recently we've had a slurry of said reports! Case in point, my housemate is 6ft3 and he believes that because he is so tall he needs to look after his bones - which is fair enough, but no truer than for anybody else. The only problem is, that he was regularly drinking between 2 and 3 pints of milk a day, plus all the other fatty dairy stuff he was taking in (he never drank or ate skimmed or low fat dairy, believing that the some calcium was also lost in the skimming process). He never ate vegetables (he couldn't afford them apparantly, until I pointed out that if he took just half of the money he spent on beer a week, he could afford enough veg to last him the entire week). Anyway, recently I showed him forks over knives - specifically the bit about calcium and how it can actually damage the skeletal structure - and you know what I saw on his plate the next day? Spring greens people. Spring greens.
 

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<a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ate/index.html</a><br><br>
Is the link to the actual Harvard page.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3074444"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
This is why I love Harvard as a premier educational institution. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br>
One of my biggest pet peeves is the misconception that dairy products are important for good health. I also wish people would wake up to the fact that we do not need fish in a healthy diet, either, and there are plant alternatives to the omegas found in fish, as well as lacking the mercury invariably found in fish. My sister had spent the last decade or so eating a LOT of fish and then recently had her blood tested - she had excessive amounts of mercury in her blood and had to cut back on fish. I wish so-called nutrition experts would stop recommending fish.<br><br>
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I SO agree with you. My sister, who has been veg*n for almost 2 years has just started eating fish again, yet she still tells people she is veg*n. That makes me kind of angry because I feel it diminishes the fact that I really have been veg*n for the past two years. Plus, she's very smart, but seems to be forgetting about what is in our fish. If it comes from WF, she thinks it's safe to eat. I don't believe that, do you? Besides the fact that she is eating an animal.<br><br>
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Yes they may have recommended to consume <i>fewer</i> servings of dairy, as opposed to completely cutting it out, but all it takes is for one report to go 'dairy really isn't that good for you' for the wheels of change begin to turn, and recently we've had a slurry of said reports!</div>
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There have been numerous studies over the past 15 years that prove how unhealthy dairy products are. These studies can't compete much with huge dairy corporations with loads of $ in marketing schemes to get people to buy as much dairy products as possible. We know dairy is unhealthy, but people still buy it because they are persuaded by the marketing campaigns (some funded by our own governments).<br><br>
I just wanted to point out that the title to the main article is misleading and anyone that wants to share this info with others should know what the real study says, that its ok to have a few servings of dairy....(i dont agree of course)
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>luvourmother</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3074498"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
There have been numerous studies over the past 15 years that prove how unhealthy dairy products are. These studies can't compete much with huge dairy corporations with loads of $ in marketing schemes to get people to buy as much dairy products as possible. We know dairy is unhealthy, but people still buy it because they are persuaded by the marketing campaigns (some funded by our own governments).<br><br>
I just wanted to point out that the title to the main article is misleading and anyone that wants to share this info with others should know what the real study says, that its ok to have a few servings of dairy....(i dont agree of course)</div>
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Yes but more and more people are turning towards a plant based diet for health - despite the loads of £ in marketing. Unfortunately, its a slow process to undo the past 100 years worth of 'yay milk' advertising and there will always be some who simply wont be open to suggestion. But isn't it better for 99/100 to drink and eat dairy than for 100/100?
 

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I think this is great news. I had heard various claims about dairy, but this is the first time an authoritative source has confirmed the role of dairy cancers, at least as far as I know.<br><br>
The Harvard website has lots of good information, some that I wasn't aware of even. Potatoes are more similar to white bread than a vegetable? Sad news!<br><br>
I do think they are promoting fish too much and minimizing the mercury issue, but at least beans and nuts get a mention.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3074444"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
... I also wish people would wake up to the fact that we do not need fish in a healthy diet, either, and there are plant alternatives to the omegas found in fish, as well as lacking the mercury invariably found in fish. ...</div>
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I think this report is great news, too, of course -- milk myth annoys me so much -- and I agree that we don't need fish in a healthy diet and concur with wish that people would wake up to that fact, too, BUT, even if we don't eat the fish, I feel compelled to mention that water pollution is bad idea.
 

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It bothers me how a lot of people in the comments were "oh 1-2 servings? okay that means it's healthy and we can still have it." Well, sweets and fats and oils are on the food pyramid or whatever and those sure aren't healthy! I mean we need healthy oils, but just because it's on the food pyramid doesn't mean it's healthy.
 

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