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Heh. There are fireworks exploding all over the 'hood even as I speak.

Guy Fawkes Day.
 

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Yes we have nonstop fireworks for 2 weeks now. First Eid, then Divali, then Halloween, now Guy fawkes. I am glad we live in a multi-cultural neighbourhood but I am tired of all the popping.
 

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I still haven't seen V for Vendetta (the movie) yet. It was an awesome comic - one of my "formative teenage years" influences. Is it any good? Does it live up to the original?
 

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Ah. I wondered if any placed actually did that, iso (with the potatoes).
 

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I had the potatoes at home, but my dad swears it is a real tradition.

Oh, and while sitting on the grass me and some friends had the following bizaare conversation...

Friend One: Do they celebrate Guy Fawkes in America? Because it's not like it's really part of their history.

Friend Two: No. I wrote about it on my journal and nobody knew what it was.

Friend One: Oh.

Friend Two: They must be gutted they don't see the fireworks.

Me: They let off fireworks on Fourth of July, though.

Friend Two: Oh, yeah.

Friend One: but isn't it always day in America?

Everyone else:
 

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You have so got to be making that up. lol
 
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[email protected] eternal daylight in america.

i miss guy fawkes night
.... nobody in Canada i've mentioned it to has ever heard of it. i 'spect canadian hedgehogs are greatful for its non celebration though, at least. i don't think it's PC to call it 'guy fawkes night' any more, is it? apparently its not celebrated in australia anymore due to the anti catholic connotations.

happy bonfire night anyway, everyone! i'm pretending to swish my imaginary sparkler round a bit (you gotta try and write your name with the sparkles - carefully- without setting fire to anyone) right now, in celebration.
 

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i miss guy fawkes night
.... nobody in Canada i've mentioned it to has ever heard of it. i 'spect canadian hedgehogs are greatful for its non celebration though, at least. i don't think it's PC to call it 'guy fawkes night' any more, is it? apparently its not celebrated in australia anymore due to the anti catholic connotations.
I was a bit fascinated by this whole phenomenon, since it doesn't occur in America, so I've been reading a good bit about the "traditions". I've heard a few folks saying Guy Fawkes Day/Night, but most people used Bonfire Night. Every locale seemed to be having fireworks, but a couple of places did advertise in the paper that they were burning effigies. In on instance, kids were supposed to bring Guy "dolls" that I'm assuming were chucked on the fire.
I can't imagine how weird it must be in Lewes, where they still burn an effigy of the former Pope. Do Catholics stay in their houses and hide? Eek.
 

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I was a bit fascinated by this whole phenomenon, since it doesn't occur in America, so I've been reading a good bit about the "traditions". I've heard a few folks saying Guy Fawkes Day/Night, but most people used Bonfire Night. Every locale seemed to be having fireworks, but a couple of places did advertise in the paper that they were burning effigies. In on instance, kids were supposed to bring Guy "dolls" that I'm assuming were chucked on the fire.
I can't imagine how weird it must be in Lewes, where they still burn an effigy of the former Pope. Do Catholics stay in their houses and hide? Eek.
kids also sometimes bring the stuffed Guy round to people's houses and ask for a "penny for the guy" much like the Bonfire Night equivalent of carol singing. Then they burn it.

Actually, nobody does that in my new neighbourhood. But there were a few where I lived when I was younger.
 
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another funny thing about it is i've never heard it called bonfire/guyfawkes 'day' apart from by iamjen, lol- no offence.

now i think about it, i think its the only festival i've heard of that is doesn't get called a 'day' and just seems to be a 'night'... weird.

ok... i found another one: xmas eve... but that gets to be an 'eve' for the whole day.

*confused*

*takes note not to try and deal with complex thoughts on a monday ever again*
 
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i've seen a few of those guys before- some kids did one when i was younger- but i think that amongst many young people nowadays, the motivation to get a load of old clothes, construct a full sized stuffed person from them using newspaper, and then drag it about in a wheelbarrow in the cold, knocking on peoples doors, when all they're likely to get out of it is 27p in change, some washers, a button, a few out of date spanish pesatas, and a shifty look from the dodgy guy up the road for their hard efforts, is somewhat lacking.

now, smart kids would get a free hawkers licence from the council, and sit in the town centre with their rustically handcrafted terrorist-spaniard maniquin, requesting donations from the thronging masses outside tescos. that'd make enough money for some iron bru, some popping candy and a packet of niknaks. i wish i was that smart as a kid, lol.
 

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I still haven't seen V for Vendetta (the movie) yet. It was an awesome comic - one of my "formative teenage years" influences. Is it any good? Does it live up to the original?
From what I've heard, no.

Wikipedia:

After reading the script, Moore remarked that his comic had been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... This film is a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives - which is not what the comic 'V for Vendetta' was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England." He later adds that if the Wachowskis had wanted to protest what was going on in America, then they should have used a political narrative that spoke directly at America's issues, similar to what Moore had done before with Britain.[10] The film changes the original message by arguably having changed "V" into a freedom fighter instead of an anarchist. An interview with producer Joel Silver suggests that the change may not have been conscious; he identifies the V of the graphic novel as a clear-cut "superhero...a masked avenger who pretty much saves the world," a simplification that goes against Moore's own statements about V's role in the story.

So basically, in the comic V's actions are much more ambiguous, while in the movie he's more of a regular superhero.
 

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re: V for Vendetta. I thougth it was passable, but then I've not read the comic either.

hcj..I think the only person I've heard called it Guy Fawkes Day was some dj on the radio. Maybe he was from elsewhere.
 
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