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If you're a US citizen who is completely sick of being bothered by Telemarketers (apologies to anyone who is currently employed as one)... the Federal Trade Commission will be offering a free no call list to any citizen who wants to stop being bothered.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/FinancialPrivacy/P49439.asp?Printer" target="_blank">http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...39.asp?Printer</a>
 

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You know, as much as I hate telemarketers I hate to think of how many people will be out of jobs because of this. People who don't make much to begin with and really need the money. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
I'll have to admit I am surprised to see the government taking the public's side instead of big business for once.
 

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I have no patience for people bothering me at home trying to sell me something. I hate people banging on my door to sell me stuff, aka, land spam. Phone spam, fax spam and email spam.<br><br><br><br>
If I never asked for it... don't bother me. I pay for my phone line for my use, not for use by others for monetary gain.<br><br><br><br>
I think this is a great move by the FTC. Hopefully email spam is next on the chopping block.<br><br><br><br>
Oh, here's the official FTC site for it:<br><br><a href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcam...all/index.html</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by michael_veggie</i><br><br><b>Yay. We don't get telemarketers in Australia anyways</b></div>
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We don't? Then who is it that keeps calling and pissing me off trying to sell me crap?<br><br><br><br>
As for e-mail spam, the Aussie government is apparently moving to make it illegal by the end of the year. But 95% originates from the US and I don't see how they can do anything about that.
 

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Kurm, on the email spam... yep.. but the problem is that many email "marketers" are using unsecured servers from overseas, many of which are based in places like China and Taiwan. A TON of global email spam is being routed through servers in those countries.<br><br><br><br>
So, really... its going to be tough for Aus, or the US, etc unless they literally make it illegal for any citizen to use a server in another country to do their bulk mailing. It's going to be a tough sell to get something like that passed.<br><br><br><br>
I know for me, while unfortunate, I completely block all email coming from several Asian countries, legitmate or otherwise. Doing that alone has decreased my daily spam by about 75%.<br><br><br><br>
You might want to give Mailwasher a try, or something called SpamPal. SpamPal is a client side app that lets you filter your email against various blacklists, such as ORBS and MAPS, and literally lets you block email from entire countries or regions. It works like a charm.
 

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I have Mailwasher, but I don't have a problem with spam (I hope I didn't just jinx myself by saying that). I'm not sure what my ISP has setup regarding stopping spam (if anything).
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Michael</i><br><br><b>You know, as much as I hate telemarketers I hate to think of how many people will be out of jobs because of this. People who don't make much to begin with and really need the money. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
I'll have to admit I am surprised to see the government taking the public's side instead of big business for once.</b></div>
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I'd rather pay them tax dollars to do public works.
 

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be nice<br><br><br><br>
I did telemarking for a short period while i was in uni, i sucked at it though because i read out the script and if they said no i would just thanks them and hang up instead of using the objections sheet (there was like a list of 15 possible objections and how you should reply) needless to say i got fired.<br><br><br><br>
But while i wasn't rude to people they were quite mean to me.
 

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epski - You'll be paying them tax dollars alright but I wouldn't expect to get anything from it.<br><br><br><br>
And yeah, people are rude. I don't take it out on them, I know they don't want to be calling me just as much as I don't want them calling. But I turn my phone off and just let the machine get it so telemarketers don't really bother me. Now if they started calling my cell phone that would be another story...
 

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I had a telemarketer leave his phone number (land and mobile) on the answering machine so I could call him back. Yeah, haha! Like that'll happen.
 

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But while i wasn't rude to people they were quite mean to me.</div>
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See, I understand why people get mean about it. It's an intrusion on a person's phone line for monetary gain. An intrusion the person never requested, nor agreed to receive. To me it is in the same league as spam. That is, homeowners are forced to pay to receive these solicitations via the phone lines for which they have paid. It then costs the homeowner even more to screen the calls, get a telezapper, etc.<br><br><br><br>
To me its a complete intrusion on people. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it harassment.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Michael</i><br><br><b>epski - You'll be paying them tax dollars alright but I wouldn't expect to get anything from it.</b></div>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by majake</i><br><br><b>you should call him and try to sell him something.</b></div>
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I posted his number in a sex chat.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Robert</i><br><br><b>See, I understand why people get mean about it. It's an intrusion on a person's phone line for monetary gain. An intrusion the person never requested, nor agreed to receive. To me it is in the same league as spam. That is, homeowners are forced to pay to receive these solicitations via the phone lines for which they have paid. It then costs the homeowner even more to screen the calls, get a telezapper, etc.<br><br><br><br>
To me its a complete intrusion on people. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it harassment.</b></div>
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You say your not interested we hang up thats it, Well i did anyway.<br><br><br><br>
In australia you can take your name off the list quite easily if you don't want the calls, i only wish it was so easy with email spam.
 

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also what is getting mean to them going to do?<br><br><br><br>
We quit/ fired etc then someone else comes along and does it. Its not the telemarkers fault its the owner of the companys fault.<br><br><br><br>
And they still function for a reason: it works lots of people do surveys, buy products, give donations etc
 

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You say your not interested we hang up thats it, Well i did anyway.</div>
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Yes, but this is the same sort of mentality that email marketers use as well. It is placing the responsibility on the recipient to get themselves off the lists. It is assuming it is OK to just add people and then make them request to be removed. It should be the other way around... where consumers request to be recipients of these solicitations <b>only</b> if they make that choice.<br><br><br><br>
BTW, the absolute worst thing we ever did was make a charitable donation over the phone. I think just about every charity known to man has called us since. I will <b>never</b> again make the mistake of making a donation, doing a survey, or engage in any other words to a telemarketer with the exception of "Remove my number" and hang up.
 

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when i have to deal with telemarketers i usually just ask them to send me their literature... they never do, and i usually get them off the phone in less than thirty seconds. i prefer not to get hostile...
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Robert</i><br><br><b>See, I understand why people get mean about it. It's an intrusion on a person's phone line for monetary gain. An intrusion the person never requested, nor agreed to receive. To me it is in the same league as spam. That is, homeowners are forced to pay to receive these solicitations via the phone lines for which they have paid. It then costs the homeowner even more to screen the calls, get a telezapper, etc.<br><br><br><br>
To me its a complete intrusion on people. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it harassment.</b></div>
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Agreed, as with e-mail and snail mail junk advertisements. A collosal waste of money, paper and time. I'm sure the companies make enough money to justify the expense, but I'd only consider junk mail worthwhile if it was like radio and TV commercials, i.e., if mail was a private service, and it was funded by advertisers or your ISP was the sole dispenser of spam, and only sent it to people with free accounts. This would all be subject to an agreement when the customers sign up for the service, of course.
 
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