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Okay, I know this is a bit of a strange question, but does anyone have info on male guinea pigs turning gay? I adopted two guinea pigs about 2 or 3 months ago. One of them (Gizmo) had to be seperated from his cagemate because his mate found him a bit too attractive, and it was embarassing the vet who was trying to adopt them out. Well, in the kiddie pool with his new cagemate, Chuck, I saw Gizmo trying to mount him, and he got nipped at for it. Later, Chuck was chasing Gizmo around, when suddenly Gizmo stopped and showed his butt to Chuck!<br><br>
The only reason this is a problem for is is that I'm afraid if one actually mounts the other, there will be rectal bleeding, which will require a vet visit, which requires explaining how it happened, and then having to seperate my piggies into cages by themselves. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Gayness happens all throughout the animal kingdom.<br><br><br><br>
Tell Gizmo you support him no matter what. Do the separate cage thing if you feel you must, but ain't no stopping Mother Nature.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/pride.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rainbow:">
 

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I figure I'll just leave them alone, but Chuck seems very, very unhappy when Gizmo "makes his move." If they start fighting and anyone gets injured, Chuck is relocating.
 

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Unaltered males engage in this behavior to establish dominance. Please have your piggies neutered.
 

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Nobody TURNS gay. They're BORN gay. *scoff* <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Are they neutered? If not, I agree with sorrowthepig, it would be deffinatly best to have them done. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I am stopping by the vet's Monday....but I got them from a vet who said they weren't nutuered due to their age, so I will get a second opinion. If not, do you think it would be safe to separate them? I don't want depressed piggies.
 

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Gayness happens all throughout the animal kingdom.<br><br><br><br><b>Tell Gizmo you support him no matter what</b>. Do the separate cage thing if you feel you must, but ain't no stopping Mother Nature.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/pride.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rainbow:"></div>
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Unaltered males engage in this behavior to establish dominance. Please have your piggies neutered.</div>
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Yeah, a little bit like the stories you hear about men in prisons.
 

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Well, I chatted with our vet today, and he recommends just separating them, since nuetureing them might not fix the problem.
 

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Neutering does not change behaviour in guinea pigs, unlike some other animals. There is no reason to neuter 2 males living together, it would be putting them through unnecessary, risky surgery.<br><br><br><br>
From what you've described, I'm not sure there's any need to seperate them. There's been no serious fighting, has there? The mounting is normal dominance behaviour. How long has it been going on? They may just settle down. This page might help you. <a href="http://cavyspirit.com/sociallife.htm" target="_blank">http://cavyspirit.com/sociallife.htm</a> There is an especially helpful section on figuring out whether the fighting is serious enough to seperate them. (although it's really for introductions - you wouldn't want even the "mild" fighting to go on for too long)<br><br><br><br>
Was the nip just a one time thing? If so I would probably just watch them carefully for the next day or so and see if they settle down, making sure to seperate if things escalate. Although I have to say I've never really dealt with this issue, personally. Good luck!<br><br><br><br>
BTW are you familiar with Guinealynx? They have great forums for getting advice on anything and everything - behaviour, medical, etc.
 

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When an animal is confined in an unnatural state, locked away without proper selection of mates to choose from, homosexuality and masturbation often occurs.
 

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I've had several of my guinea pigs spayed and neutered. The trick is, you HAVE to go to an exotics vet who does this all the time. The surgery is very risky if you go to a regular vet and/or one who does not do this operation routinely.<br><br><br><br>
Go to guinealynx.info for all the good info on piggies. They have great forums there too where you can ask the experts! (Sorry, I'm too new and can't post the direct link.)<br><br><br><br>
BTW, don't bother taking piggies to a regular vet for pretty much anything. You need to find an exotics vet if at all possible.<br><br><br><br>
The behavior you're seeing is definitely due to dominance. One of my males was able to live with females after his neuter, and while he still did the dancing/purring to try to attract them, he'd only do it for a few moments and then kind of forget about it. Unaltered males usually do it almost nonstop around female pigs.<br><br><br><br>
Your males aren't going to cause rectal bleeding, don't worry. But they might start scuffling in general and that can cause injuries.
 

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When an animal is confined in an unnatural state, locked away without proper selection of mates to choose from, homosexuality and masturbation often occurs.</div>
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This may be correct, but it's important to note that homosexuality also occurs througout the animal kingdom in natural environments where potential mates of both sexes are present. Just saying.<br><br><br><br><br><br><a href="http:" target="_blank">National Geographic Article</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL" target="_blank">Gay Penguins</a> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/penguin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":nigel:">
 
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