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What does this sentence imply? Is it grammatically correct?<br><br>
I don't like sports, but I do like tennis.
 

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Ernest Hemmingway claimed that there were only three sports: motorcycle racing, bullfighting, and mountain climbing. Everything else is a game.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>paperhanger</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2994147"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Ernest Hemmingway claimed that there were only three sports: motorcycle racing, bullfighting, and mountain climbing. Everything else is a game.</div>
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Maybe except for. I do not know.
 

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implies that you don't consider tennis a sport.</div>
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This. The implication is contradictory. Try, I don't like sports, except tennis.
 

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You would really need to have a tone of voice or some context. I could easily see this being EITHER "I don't consider tennis a real sport, ha ha ha" or "I don't generally enjoy sports - excepting tennis."
 

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the sentence seems ok, to me.
 

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This. The implication is contradictory. Try, I don't like sports, except tennis.</div>
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I agree with this <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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It's not that I'm trying to build a sentence - I guess I'm looking for precedent why it's wrong. It actually came up like this, as part of flavour text for a fictional culture: They cannot eat meat, but they can eat fish and whale. I thought this implied fish/whale was not meat and the sentence was constructed ambiguously...
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>luxdancer</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2994299"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
It's not that I'm trying to build a sentence - I guess I'm looking for precedent why it's wrong. It actually came up like this, as part of flavour text for a fictional culture: They cannot eat meat, but they can eat fish and whale. I thought this implied fish/whale was not meat and the sentence was constructed ambiguously...</div>
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Yours is not a grammar question. There ara many definitions for meat. In terms of vegetarianism the definition is obvious to most of us. If you're a wine steward doing pairings, a distinction between "meat" and "fish" is understood and appreciated.
 

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It is a big to-do about how they cannot eat meat, but it's still ambiguous as to what they mean by meat. I think it's poorly constructed, it isn't in some chic-chic context of wine pairing.<br><br>
Anyway, ignore the context, that's a separate issue - does saying "!a, but b" imply that "b is !a"? That is still the "meat" of the question.
 

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It is a big to-do about how they cannot eat meat, but it's still ambiguous as to what they mean by meat. I think it's poorly constructed, it isn't in some chic-chic context of wine pairing.<br><br>
Anyway, ignore the context, that's a separate issue - does saying "!a, but b" imply that "b is !a"? That is still the "meat" of the question.</div>
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I would agree that the sentence is poorly constructed, either way.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>luxdancer</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2994321"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Anyway, ignore the context, that's a separate issue - does saying "!a, but b" imply that "b is !a"? That is still the "meat" of the question.</div>
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I think it implies that the person speaking/writing the statement does not consider that b is !a, despite the fact that others do, which they obviously realize.<br><br>
I think that came out wrong and this might make it more confusing but....<br><br>
It implies that b is normally recognized as being !a, but the person making the statement doesn't consider it to be.<br><br>
I don't eat meat, but I do eat fish.<br>
I don't like cars, but I do like vw's.<br><br>
And context does matter. If you were to say it the other way around, it's a completely different meaning.<br><br>
I don't eat fish, but I do eat meat.<br>
I don't like VW's, but I do like cars.
 
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