Going Raw Vegan

ToonQueen · Oct 27, 2004

>.> So I used to be a size 28, now with omni dieting and exersize I've been stagnet at a size between 24 and 22. My vegitarian roomate mentioned to me how some 350 pound guy went on a Raw Vegan diet and now is thin and even has abs! My goal is only size 18, but would going Raw Vegan be a good step to quicking this stagentness and getting me closer to my goal? 
And other than the obvious fresh fruits and veggies, is there anything else I can eat?

GhostUser · Oct 27, 2004

Moving to Raw and Living Foods

vegbunny83 · Oct 28, 2004

well basically you can't eat anything cooked. no canned foods, no beans, no processed bread/crackers... no ice cream or soymilk either, and most cereals are a no-go. 
you can eat fresh fruits, veggies, sprouts, some juices, sprouted bread, nuts, seeds... and you will probably be using the blender alot. oh, and you can eat hummus! and other non-cooked dips like that. yay! 
someone with more knowledge help here... i don't know everything! 
if you actually wanna go raw or even 99% raw, i'll do it with ya... we just gotta get enough money to buy all our own fresh ingredients, and keep the frickin' kitchen clean so we can prepare stuff!!! 
julie

dirtysole · Oct 28, 2004

um... hummus is cooked my dears. one must cook the beans in order to blend them (ironically i just drained a batch of chickpeas about 2 minutes ago!) i thought about going raw and eventually decided "not at this time" and truthfully, probably not ever. it will make you lose weight, but you have to be very very carefull to get the right nutrients.

ToonQueen · Oct 28, 2004

So like un-cooked, un-salted peanuts are okay?

beforewisdom · Oct 28, 2004

In my opinion: NO! 
Losing weight is all about eating fewer calories then you use. 
The trick is to find a way of living that makes eating fewer calories livable. 
Low carb diets have been proven to be low calorie diets. My guess is that is the same with raw food diets. The results from neither are based on the metaphysics in the diet books ( neither are based on science ). 
I did the raw food thing as a teenager and it made me very unhealthy. 
I think it is an unhealthy diet. 
So does Jack Norris, registered dietician and vice president of Vegan Outreach: <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org</a>

MzNatural · Oct 28, 2004

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um... hummus is cooked my dears. one must cook the beans in order to blend them (ironically i just drained a batch of chickpeas about 2 minutes ago!) i thought about going raw and eventually decided "not at this time" and truthfully, probably not ever. it will make you lose weight, but you have to be very very carefull to get the right nutrients.</div>
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You can actually make raw hummus. It tastes different than cooked hummus. I made raw hummus a few days ago. There are quite a few recipes for that. 
I dont see myself going to 100% raw lifestyle. I am eating about 50% raw. I make sure I keep the weight on. I don't need to lose weight. 
ToonQueen, here is a link to Raw food <a href="http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/" target="_blank">recipes</a>.

ToonQueen · Oct 28, 2004

Welp, I'm gonna try to be raw veggie until Jan 21. So in three monthes if I don't see results I'm getting some sweet and sour chicken from Hung Kitchen.

GhostUser · Oct 28, 2004

Hm.. Why don't you try going Vegetarian, then Vegan, and then raw vegan.. Omnivore to raw vegan is pretty drastic..

eggplant · Oct 28, 2004

If you're just doing it for weight loss, I'd advise against it. You probably won't stick to it and you'll gain the weight back. If you really want to lose weight in a healthy manner and keep it off, it's better to decide what changes you can make in your diet that you can live with for the rest of your life. You need to permanently change your way of living. My advice is to focus on health. How can you be healthier? Do you eat a lot of junk food? A lot of high calorie/low nutrient foods? Do you eat too much overall? Do you get any exercise? Become aware of your portion sizes and of the difference between being satsisfied and being stuffed. Choose physical activities that you like and do them with some regularity. In my experience, these are the only ways that anyone--vegan, vegetarian or omni--will maintain a healthy weight. If you care about animal rights or welfare, and you want to be healthy, then by all means go vegetarian or vegan, but if all you care about is losing weight, you probably won't last long on a raw vegan diet or any other weight-loss plan.

stellar26 · Oct 29, 2004

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Took the words right out of my mouth. 
You'll never keep it off if you go raw vegan and then switch back to your normal way of eating. Quite obviously, it is that normal way of eating and the lack of physical activity that is keeping you the way that you are. 
When trying to lose weight, you must make life changes- changes that will stick with you for your entire life. Take up running or yoga. Cut out all deep fried foods and stay away from white foods (white bread, white pasta, potato chips, etc. etc.) by substituting them with whole foods (whole wheat pasta, whole grain breads, etc.). Snack on carrots and celery instead of junk- soon it will be second nature. I would have never guessed that within two years I would no longer be craving chocolate or cake or cookies but that is now a reality for me. I don't find them appealing, anymore- I'd rather eat fresh fruits and veggies. Surely doing these things- making LIFE changes rather than short-term changes, will prevent you from gaining and will help you to lose.

GhostUser · Oct 29, 2004

calories in < calories spent = weight loss 
eat things high in fiber and protein that have high nutritional density to fill u up. maybe raw foods have higher fiber, but im not sure. i know fruits do but they have lots of sugars.

vegbunny83 · Oct 30, 2004

actually, being your roommate and friend and all, i agree with eggplant and stellar. i don't think you will get enough to eat on a raw diet with our budget- you are already complaining you are hungry- and that could lead to health problems and more weight gain even! remember in HS when you ate nothing but OJ and a bagel every day for almost the entire year? that probably screwed your metabolism royally. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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i agree with the above posters- going raw temporarily is not going to solve your problems. it's like going on atkins or the zone or any other fad diet temporarily- you lose the weight but if you don't keep up a healthy lifestyle, you gain it all back and get sick! you don't need a diet, you need a pattern of eating that you can like and follow your whole life. and maybe some excercise too- i have been thinking of starting an excercize plan, so maybe you could start with me. 
going from omni to raw is huge- i'm vegan and i dont even think i could do it right! maybe just go vegan with me and we can eat like 75% raw food, and see how that goes? cut out all the junk food, fries and white bread, and crap you eat when you're with your dad, and you'll be ok. start eating more whole foods and fruits and veggies, less cooked stuff, and more healthy snacks instead of chocolate.

drink lots o water. and we could start excercizing. and all would be good. 
darn you, even after living with me you still have the standard american mentality of the quick fix! get it outta your head girlie!!! 
(you know i say this all as a caring friend <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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^^^ read all those posts up there ^^^ they are full of wisdom! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/iloveyou.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lovesign:">

Bunny Hugger · Oct 31, 2004

i do something called "raw monday" every monday is a raw food day because its healthy and it makes me feel great 
mabey you should have something like that too, i agree with FAFA going from omni to Raw Vegan is a bigg stretch 
besides your going on about how much u love sweet and sour chicken 
it dosent sound like your heart is in it Going vegan is a lifestyle not a "Loose 14 pounds in 10 days" fad diet

soleil · Nov 1, 2004

the best thing to do is take it a step at a time..get used to eating/living as a veg..then go to vegan and so on.. and do your research! each step you take seems to include a broader range of food choices.. 
raw/living foods are absolutely the most creative and tasty foods i have ever eaten! 
My favourites are Mexican pizza, falafal balls, and ooohhh pumpkin pie (better than any pie i have ever had) yes all raw... 
i guess it's like someone thinking that being vegan means you have little food choices..well living raw vegan lifestyle is just not biting into an apple or cucumber either...so far from boring.. but i agree w/everyone to incorporate the changes slowly into your life to make the transition positive and hopefully lifelong! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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MezzoEmi · Nov 7, 2004

I agree completely with Fafa. That's a HUUUUUGE diet change there. O_O

Annie · Nov 27, 2004

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I am really...*really* liking that idea! Thanks for sharing!

chiaraluna · Nov 27, 2004

Going straight from omni to raw vegan is setting yourself up for failure. Take it slow -- I think that you'll both be more successful and more likely to stick to it.

Qwerks · Dec 3, 2004

Well, the thread is a bit old but the advice is good for life... 
Seriously, start walking everywhere, all the time. I gained a ton of weight after a lifestyle change that took away most of my reasons for running around. When I went back (mostly) to my old ways, the pounds started coming off again right away. No dietary changes were made. 
But fresh fruits and veggies are always a good idea! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"> 
Also, vegans are cooler than everyone else. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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Peter Parker · Dec 4, 2004

hummus doesnt have to be cooked. 
raw hummus: 
soak chickpeas until sprouted 
combine the following: 
lemon juice 
garlic 
cilantro 
put all ingredients in a food processor and let it do its job until your happy with it. 
eat with carrots or celery. or eat it like I do, with a spoon. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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