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So I was just down on Lake Ontario and there was this fisherman there. Normally I don't mind that they're around, i mean... it's their hobby. Hey, i don't make hobbies out of killing/injuring animals, but they do... there's nothing I can do to stop them. Well today was quite different. Me and my mom were walking the pier, towards the end there was this older man fishing. He seemed to have caught something, but then when he reeled it in, i noticed it was just a small little fish. paying little attention to this man, i just kinda gazed away. out of the corner of my eye i thought i saw him take the fish of and throw it on the concrete pier. because of the state i've been in lately, i figured it was just my mind playing tricks on me. about five minutes later, i saw it again. this time i gave him a dirty look, then said if i saw it again i was going to stop it. i told my mother that i was going to and she insisted that i didn't. my mom thought this guy was crazy because he was humming to himself (and also because he was THROWING FISH ONTO THE CONCRETE GROUND.) So I waited. I waited for him to catch another one. When he caught it, i thought, this is my time... i'm going to go up to him and put what he's doing into perspective. my mom held me back, and boy she must've held pretty hard... i was fierce. in front of two young children (i'd say they were 4 or 5), he THREW the fish hard into the concrete. so hard you could hear it's entire body collapse in itself. other people got mad. i got mad. we were all mad.<br><br><br><br>
anyways as we were all leaving we murmured some things to him... he said that the lake ontario officials want all the fishermen to "take care" of the goby problem. he said he had statistics to show us. i wasn't in the mood for statistics, nor was i in the mood for fishermen. so i came home and now i've done some research... i read about these gobies and their statistics.<br><br><br><br>
here's some info if you'd like:<br><br><b>wiki on gobies:</b><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goby" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goby</a><br><br><b>Lake Ontario Invasion Begins - "Round Gobies" Feed on Sport Fish Eggs, Zebra Mussels:</b><br><br><a href="http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/announce.cfm?ID=475&Lang=e" target="_blank">http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/announce.cfm?ID=475&Lang=e</a><br><br><b>Viral disease strikes Ontario area fishery</b><br><br><a href="http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060615/COLUMNISTS09/606150321/1002/NEWS" target="_blank">http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...0321/1002/NEWS</a><br><br><br><br>
So i thought that maybe they were killing off the gobies because of this virus. But apparently as quoted from the "Viral disease strikes Ontario area fishery" article: "If the disease attacked just gobies, the outbreak would not likely raise many eyebrows. Unfortunately, some strains of VHS can effect trout and salmon such as rainbow, brown and lake trout, and Chinook and Coho salmon. Should that strain of the disease appear on the scene, it could threaten the all-important trout and salmon population in Lake Ontario. However, <b>to date there is no indication of an active threat to those species</b>." Even so, should we kill off creatures just because they pose a threat to other creatures? i don't believe so. it's all about survival of the fittest, right? if we chose to kill off an entire species just because a big virus was spreading we'd all be long dead by now.<br><br><br><br>
anyways... i was just wondering if any of you are fired up about this.<br><br>
i was also wondering if any of you have any ideas as to what i could do next?<br><br><br><br>
thank you if you read this entire thing.
 

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ah yes, one more bit of info:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.epa.gov/lakeerie/2002update/10web.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.epa.gov/lakeerie/2002update/10web.pdf</a><br><br><br><br>
it notes gobies as an "invasive species." it says that invasive species (such as the goby) are a threat to the ecosystem. now, my question is, is it possible to get rid of all the gobies? i doubt it. they've reproduced in great numbers... maybe the ecosystem needs to adapt. besides which, i'm pretty sure that pollution (**cough cough** kodak) is a larger threat to the ecosystem.
 
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