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For me, this is a healthy living question. I am trying to get rid of the tobacco stink from my things. Whenever the wind blows, it stirs up the crap and my asthma/allergies flare up.<br><br><br><br>
I have tobacco neutralizing air spray and Febreeze. I vaccumed and washed everything down. BUt it doesn't seem to help. Granted, the roomates just *don't* get it and smoke in the house when I'm not there or, my personal favorite, smoke standing in the doorway that's next to the stairs. So, the smoke all blows upstairs.<br><br><br><br>
Hopefully, I will be able to move out soon. Until then, what can I do?
 

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I once had a creative writing professor who would get quite cross when students handed in papers that smelled like smoke. I don't know much about the olfactory sense, although I acknowledge that it may be the most acute of the senses. However, I fully suspected at the time that my professor's sensation of tobacco-scented papers was at least AS much psychosomatic as it was anything else.<br><br><br><br>
Anywho, I once cleaned my car's carpet out with a watered-down solution of the product sold in pet stores to remove cat urine. It helped tremendously. I have also had some success in this area with a nearly-constant running of a high-quality air filter. Fabreeze and sprays only cover up smells, and if it is an actual allergy to tobacco smoke and not just and adverse reaction to the disfavorable smell, then there is little you can do, as far as I know, besides air filtering.
 

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No doubt that some of it is psychosomatic. I do know that the smell wakes me from my sleep with a sick stomach and, in the morning, my nasal passages are clogged. That's after having 2 shots in each side of my nose of Flonesse before bed. Beyond that, I do hate the smell. Perhaps it's because of how it makes me feel...or the other way around.<br><br><br><br>
I haven't been able to afford any type of air filter; finances was the reason I had to move in with relatives. Hopefully, I'll be able to get out soon, if plans work as they seem to be.<br><br><br><br>
When I move out, I will have to decontaminate everything I own. I will try the cat urine product.<br><br><br><br>
Until then, I will try and not think about how many years I've lost off my life inhaling this crap.
 

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Oh how awful, I'd be SOOOO sick if people did that where I lived. Febreeze might help with the stank, but it might also be bad for your allergies/asthma.<br><br><br><br>
Hope you can get out soon.<br><br><br><br>
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If someone would get their basement liveable, then I could move in *cough* *cough* *hints at her bf*<br><br><br><br>
I'm really hoping to move into his basement by the end of the summer. I'll pay him less rent then I would an apartment.<br><br><br><br>
What can I say? I'm an old fashion girl, who won't live with her bf, but new fashion enough to rent his basement <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I keep the spray next to my bed. If I wake up to a cloud, I spray until all I can smell is spray. Of course, spray makes me sneeze, but I can live with sneezing. I also spray my sofa and bed all the time with Febreeze.<br><br><br><br>
There are times I want to spray my cats; even they smell like tobacco smoke.
 

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When I smoke cigars, I don't notice the smell. Of course, I am usually drinking tequila and/or jaeger at the time.<br><br><br><br>
My solution: booze it up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Tame,<br><br><br><br>
You don't realize how close I've come to taking that very advice many a day.<br><br><br><br>
The smell is enough to drive anyone to drink <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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A little rant:<br><br><br><br>
I get so fed up with smokers who go on and on about their right to smoke. I can never understand the selfishness that is embodied by this attitude. "It's my body, and my lungs", they say. "This is America, and we should be free to do as we wish", the rant. "It's really not such a big deal - you're being such a whiner about this", they comment.<br><br><br><br>
They will go on and on about this. San Antonio is moving towards being a non-smoking city. People are moaning and hollaring about not being able to smoke at the clubs - as if it is their God given right.<br><br><br><br>
Well, I say, "Good! Finally!" I am so sick of breathing their stinky air, of having the stench of smoke on my clothes if I venture into a club or bar. I am sick to death of having to worry about not sitting too close to the smoking section in a restaurant. I hate tabacco smoke, and all of these years, I have been forced to breath in their digusting smoke and suffer with the misery that is forced upon without having a say. Why should I have to be the one to leave a bar or club because I want to breath air that isn't full of poisons. If you want to smoke, do it somewhere where we don't have to deal with the stench.<br><br><br><br>
Just as many veg*n dream of a day when there will be no more animal suffering, I dream of the day when I can breath air devoid of tobacco stench where ever I choose to go.<br><br><br><br>
And, BTW, I know that I am going to get blasted for this, but I find it very interesting that someone could call themselves Vegan and still smoke. I just don't get it. The tobacco companies torture animals. It is a horrible fate for these animals. Why smoke? Looking at the site, <a href="http://smoking" target="_blank">http://smoking</a> animals is just as horrible as watching "Meet Your Meat". Why give up meat, eggs, milk, honey, leather, etc., and still put money into the hands of one of the horrible offenders of the philosophy that you hold so dear? I know that it is hard to quit. I understand that completely. But if a person is Vegan for ethical reasons, then how can you continue to smoke? And can a person who IS Vegan call themselves such when they support an industry that has participates and continues to participate in such hideous animal experimentation?<br><br><br><br>
I'm not a perfect Vegan. I understand that it is a process, and an evolution. There is no reason to tell me that. I understand how hard it is to quit. As I have said in another post, it is harder to quit than heroin. But if you are Vegan, how can you give into it without fighting tooth and nail, just as you fight the urge to eat meat, cheese, and eggs. Why is it more important to find animal friendly shoes, cosmetics and clothes, than to quit supporting such an awful industry. I just don't get it. I truly don't.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
OK. Rant done. I'm waiting for the screams, the personal attacks, the defensive posturing and the excuses. I expect it, because that is what smokers always do. When push comes to shove, rather than quit, they excuse, attack, and insult non smokers. Fine.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
I don't hate smokers, btw. One of my best friends smokes and has tried to quit repeatedly. However, as kind as this woman is (she would give you the shirt of her back), she'll still defend her smoking and attack me if I even so much as mention that she should keep trying to quit. I don't say a word anymore. It's not worth it.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know how to help you kristadb. Smokers don't care about other people's air, and their right to live free of tabacco smoke and smell. I am sorry for you and hope that you get out of there quickly.
 

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equipro,<br><br><br><br>
I share your frustration. Edmonton restaurants are 100% non-smoking and, in 2005, bars, casinos and bingo halls will be non-smoking. I am boycotting the restaurants that are fighting the non-smoking ban and will continue to do so until they accept the law.<br><br><br><br>
I moved here because I could not afford my apartment after losing my job. I pay $330 month for two rooms in our 2 story condo. They used to smoke indoors and finally stopped after one of them had a massive heart attack. Of course, that hasn't detered either from quitting the smoking.<br><br><br><br>
I've gotten a number of flus and colds the last 1.5 years that I've lived here. All of them have bed-riddened me for 3-5 days. And yet, *I* am being difficult.<br><br><br><br>
It frustrates me to no end!
 

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Equipro - that does it, next time I am smoking cigars in a bar, I am going to blow smoke <b>towards</b> the non-smoking section. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/pimp.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":tame:"><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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They have a new kind of Allergy Reducer Febreze. Try that, it can get rid of the smell, and reduce the allergens in your house by up to 70%. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Tame</i><br><br><b>Equipro - that does it, next time I am smoking cigars in a bar, I am going to blow smoke towards the non-smoking section. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/pimp.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":tame:"><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></b></div>
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Are you saying you normally blow it away from that section? That's mighty thoughtful of you, Cookie, but have you ever heard of "drift"?
 

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if they keep smoking in the house you can try to clean it out all you want but the smell will always come back. they should respect that you're a nonsmoker and take their habit outside.<br><br><br><br>
it was agreed before we ever moved in with our roommate that he'd smoke outside, part of the reason was that he wanted to quit and figured standing outside in 30 below canadian winter weather would do the trick. didn't work, but he still doesn't smoke in the house.<br><br><br><br>
if they won't agree maybe you can get them those smoke-eater ashtrays. they suck up the smoke and filter it. our roommate used one in his old apartment and always smoked near an open window and his apartment didn't smell at all
 

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I tried the smoke-eater tray, but it requires them to use it.<br><br><br><br>
As for the logistics of the arrangement, I moved in with them. I was near homeless and no where else to go and I have been reminded of it many times since then. They are relatives (my egg donor and her bf) and, as such, do not treat me with the same respect as you would a stranger. Despite my age and the fact that I pay as much rent as them, she treats me as a child and does not respect my wishes. Sad, but true.<br><br><br><br>
I guess I'm stuck with it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Hopefully, I'll be able to move soon and get away from them.
 

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Just an FYI for those concerned with such things who might not be aware: Febreze is made by Proctor & Gamble, who test their products on animals.<br><br><br><br>
I can give you a tip about cigarette smoke on your clothes and around the house, though, since I'm a former smoker. For your clothes, put a cup of white distilled vinegar in the wash cyle of the washing machine. Fabric softeners will mask the smell, but it will come back if you don't wash with vinegar. For the house (this will not keep the smell out, but it will help keep it down), put shallow dishes of apple cider vinegar in non-descript places around the house. I don't know how it works, but it does. My grandma used to do that when my grandpa chain-smoked in the house, and it really did help quite a bit.
 

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what sort of heating system does the house have? if it's a furnace and you have cold air returns all over the house like we do, there's this cheap filter material you can buy for like 3 bucks a roll, it's blue on one side white on the other. a lady at work told me about it and said there's practically no dust in her house since putting it in. you just cut a piece to fit the vent and stick it in, easy. i imagine if it helps cut down dust it must help with other air-borne particles too so that might help. you'd just have to remember to change them every few months.
 

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I have a product called Atmosklear that I just purchased to help with cat urine smells in my house. It's also supposed to diminish smoke smells immediately. It is amazing, it works better than anything I've bought at a pet store. I saw the man who invented it on my local morning news. I guess he's from Minnesota. He demonstrated it in TV and all the news anchors were amazed, so I just had to try it. Awesome stuff!<br><br><a href="http://www.atmosklear.com" target="_blank">www.atmosklear.com</a>
 

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Ok, I'm a smoker. I do not smoke inside my own home and when in a bar next to an obvious non-smoker or in a "smoking section" of a restaurant where there are people next to me not smoking, I will go out of my way to ask if they mind. More than one time they've said yeah and I've refrained from the cigarette. It is a nasty habit, a guilty vice, and an addiction I haven't been able to kick, so at least I try to be considerate of the others 'round when I indulge.<br><br><br><br>
As for smoke in your place, only once in my life did I smoke in my own dwelling, and it even started to make me gag after a while. I used a diluted bleach solution on a sponge mop to wipe down the walls, ceilings, and floors where applicable. My current house, that I own, has been painted from top to bottom and the stench of cigs (from previous owners) still comes through sometimes. If you are going to stay for a bit, invest in a semi gloss paint that is durable to a hefty washing from time to time, and paint your space. Scrub the carpet, if you can, and I agree that the vinegar or a pet solution will help. I also like the "Smokers" candles or "pet" candles, they do put out an odor of their own, but it helps neutralize the smoke. Aside from that, block up the base of your door with a towel or draft blocker of some sort and keep the door to your space closed if possible, cheaper than a filtration device? I also burn lavender scented candles or an oil burner with lavender oil to try to combat some of the gunk in the air here. If you have central air conditioning they also make filter scent packets that you put on the air flow side of the filter that will impart some other smell in the air that blows through the duct work in you home that maybe won't smell like smoke.<br><br><br><br>
Other than that, I travel with Febreeze. If I am unfortunate enough to fall into a non-smoking room, I spray it down and suffer the sneezes myself. Maybe try another brand of fabric freshener? Clorox made one I know. I'm pretty sure there are other options too.<br><br><br><br>
Best of luck Krista,
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by EquiPro</i><br><br><b>A little rant:<br><br>
OK. Rant done. I'm waiting for the screams, the personal attacks, the defensive posturing and the excuses. I expect it, because that is what smokers always do. When push comes to shove, rather than quit, they excuse, attack, and insult non smokers. Fine.<br><br></b></div>
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Nah - you are right on, and everyone just needs to face the facts. Smoker's are addicts - addicts will do anything to continue on with their habit. Some addicts are more considerate than others - but all must smoke and will do just about anything to be able to do so.<br><br><br><br>
I am not a preaching ex-smoker either. Last month I lost a 6 month quit - so I'm smoking (not much, but smoking is smoking). I hate it - and I'm happy that there are restrictions, and I hope they put even more (because it forces me - each and every day - to confront my addiction) I wish they would make it illegal.
 

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Vinegar, huh? I didn't think of that.<br><br><br><br>
When I do move (looking like before CDN thanksgiving), I'll need to de-smoke my stuff. I've already given them my formerly-white love seat that they use downstairs. I don't want to even bother cleaning it.<br><br><br><br>
What about my sofa and chair upstairs? No one has smoked on it, but it does have "that" smell to it. My BF has a portable steam cleaner. Would that work? I only paid $60 for it, but I'd like to keep it, *if* I can get that stink out of it.<br><br><br><br>
I came home 3 nights in a row to them smoking. I was wearing my contacts each time (which is rare for me, considering my allergies). On the fourth day, I realized that my contacts had a yellow tint to them. That's when I decided I've truely had enough. This is simpy not healthy.<br><br><br><br>
LF, I believe you suggested those to me about 6 months ago. I have them and it does help with dust - a major problem in Edmonton. I also had to pantyhose my computer, as the smoke dust particals were collecting inside my computer and, when we opened it up, it was covered in a yellow goo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 
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