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So this year i think i got a cold once or twice, and got food poisoning the first time i tried a garden burger at a restaurant. Now i'm sick again and i believe it's a lower respiratory infection. I take vitamins now, and didn't when i was omni. I'm disturbed and discouraged because i never never got sick when i was omni, and it just so happens that when i go vegetarian i'm getting sick a lot more, i honestly don't know what it could be, if there's nothing in meat that helps with health.<br><br>
I'm taking a multi vitamin, a calcium/vit d supplement, and a b-12 supplement. I haven't changed my surroundings or the people i'm around, i really haven't been doing anything different besides not eating meat. Does anyone have any idea? I know it's "normal" for people to get sick a couple times a year, but for like 15 years that wasn't the norm for me, so i'm wondering what the hell is going on.
 

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Well, the food poisoning most likely has nothing to do with the fact that the food which poisoned you was a Gardenburger and everything to do with cross-contamination.<br><br>
As for getting sick...it happens. Some years I never get sick, and some years I do.
 

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It's not cause going veg, I can tell you that 100%. I know someone that went veg and got a very serious case of bronchitis and then blamed it on going veg and went back omni... a bit ridiculous.<br><br><br>
As for food poisoning, I got it a couple of weeks ago ( you can see my rant in the gripes thread). I went to a veg restaurant, and you'd think with grain based foods you're safe? Nope, they probably served spoiled something, cause I was in the washroom all night with it coming out both ends.<br><br><br>
Sorry to hear you're having bad luck with all the health issues. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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I just don't understand how it can be so coincidental, and that i should be healthier than ever with taking vitamins and using more natural products, it just doesn't make sense.
 

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It happens and has nothing to do with being a vegetarian. Maybe the people around you are just getting dirtier by not washing their hands so much and spreading their nasty germs to you.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Hope you feel better.
 

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Re-evaluate everything about your life. Has anything else changed? New house? Do you have gas heat? Do you eat healthy or junk food? Have you been around others who have been sick (that's a big factor)? Been around kids a lot lately? Have you changed jobs recently? Is your mother secretly trying to poison you for insurance money? Do you get enough B12 and vitamin D (and about 30 minutes of sunlight per day)? Have you washed your sheet in the past year?<br><br>
There are lots of factors that come into play. I can say as for me, I get sick less often than when I was an omni. I have only been sick twice in the past 5 years. And the last time I got sick was my boss's fault. He literally works 5 feet away and he was sick as a dog. I kept hinting that he should go home and rest, but he refused. His dumba** made me get sick.<br><br>
Anyways, I hope you figure out what is wrong...
 

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*I should say I am not a doctor or in any way medically trained* but from my reading on the subject I'm pretty sure colds and Respratory tract infections are not caused by diet- you caught something off someone.<br><br>
Diet can help to boost the immune system and reduce the chance you will catch anything, but there is no cure-all diet. However it may be helpful to look at what you are eating. Lots of fresh greens (vit c, iron) onions and garlic, citrus fruits (vit c) nuts (zinc) ginger and echinacea are all suggested to help the immune system, and I have found garlic and orange juice to be particularly helpful at warding off colds.<br><br>
Just taking some vitamin tablets doesn't mean you won't get sick. Even eating the healthiest diet in the world doesn't mean you won't get sick. Something which is particularly bad for the immune system is stressed so if you have been stressed out by anything recently that could be a contributing factor.
 

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I've had the opposite effect - hardly ever get colds now that I'm veg.<br><br>
I've read that some of the best ways you can boost your immune system is to get regular exercise and sleep well. Do you get those on a daily basis?
 

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It's not diet related, really. It has more to do with exposure and hand washing. Your respiratory infection probably has to do with smog, as you live in one of the worst places for lung health. I work in the food industry and get exposed to viruses all the time. I even had someone hand me a bill with a booger on it. Food poisoning has absolutely Nothing to do with vegetarianism, if anything, your odds are lower of getting exposed because meat is a big carrier of bacteria. Both times I got food poisoning, it was from meat. If you're eating healthy, I wouldn't stress. Do you have any other health problems? Allergies, asthma, or anything like that?
 

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I would suggest a supplement of Vitamin C 500mg daily. I was getting colds, bronchitis, and another annoying health problem on a regular basis. When I started taking Vitamin C it all cleared up. Now that I'm Vegan I don't take the supplements anymore, as I'm getting enough Vit C daily through the way that I eat. Hope that it helps.
 

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Lol nothing has changed at all about what i do, i know food wouldn't cause anything, i'm saying it seems my immune system is worse now, i sleep well, i've never exercised lol i need to get on that, i figured if i ever got food poisoning it would be from meat, i had never had food poisoning before, i have pretty bad luck that it was from my first restaurant veggie burger, i mean what are the odds.
 

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Lol nothing has changed at all about what i do, i know food wouldn't cause anything, i'm saying it seems my immune system is worse now, i sleep well, i've never exercised lol i need to get on that, i figured if i ever got food poisoning it would be from meat, i had never had food poisoning before, i have pretty bad luck that it was from my first restaurant veggie burger, i mean what are the odds.</div>
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Was the veggie burger the last thing you ate before getting sick? How long after eating it did the illness occur?
 

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Was the veggie burger the last thing you ate before getting sick? How long after eating it did the illness occur?</div>
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Yup, probably about an hour or more.
 

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It would be unlikely to get food poisoning from a veggie burger, unless it was bad or stored thawed improperly. It would be more likely to get food poisoning from the lettuce/sprouts/tomato on the burger or a salad. Raw vegetables are often contaminated by fertilizers and factory run-off. What were your sysmptoms?
 

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Well i figure food poisoning always has the same symptoms, the worst ones ever! lol First got nauseous and then i had stuff coming from both ends for hours, and felt weak and body hurt, especially my legs, couldn't keep anything down for two days, got dehydrated. I know that my immune system is still better than most because it didn't last as long as it would with most people, i was pretty much fine after two days.
 

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Food poisoning usually takes longer than that to set in. Most people blame the food they last ate when often it was from 12+ hours before. Sometimes days. Most likely you got sick from cross contamination or unwashed veggies. It could have been as simple as the cook pulling your veggie burger off the grill with a spatula that just touched raw beef or chicken. Yuck. I got sick once from shrimp (first cheat on a veggie diet) and once from beef. The first one took 5 hours to set in, the 2nd was 8. Food poisoning sucks. And trust me, even with the strongest immune system, you'll still be 'going' out of both ends. Every year, about 76 million people get sick from food. Not pleasant at all, ugh. Brings back nightmares.
 

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Well i figure food poisoning always has the same symptoms, the worst ones ever! lol First got nauseous and then i had stuff coming from both ends for hours, and felt weak and body hurt, especially my legs, couldn't keep anything down for two days, got dehydrated. I know that my immune system is still better than most because it didn't last as long as it would with most people, i was pretty much fine after two days.</div>
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That's how sick I was too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Did you run a high fever too? I lost 5 pounds in 3 days.
 

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Going veg*n does not hamper your immune system.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Like any fighting force, the immune system army marches on its stomach. Immune system warriors need good, regular nourishment. Scientists have long recognized that people who live in poverty and are malnourished are more vulnerable to infectious diseases. Whether the increased rate of disease is caused by malnutrition’s effect on the immune system, however, is not certain. There are still relatively few studies of the effects of nutrition on the immune system of humans, and even fewer studies that tie the effects of nutrition directly to the development (versus the treatment) of diseases.<br><br>
There are studies of the effects of nutritional changes on the immune systems of animals, but again there are few studies that address the development of diseases in animals as a result of changes in immunity. For example, one group of investigators has found that in mice, diets deficient in protein reduce both the numbers and function of T cells and macrophages and also reduce the production of immunoglobulin A (IgA) antibody.<br><br>
There is some evidence that various micronutrient deficiencies — for example, deficiencies of zinc, selenium, iron, copper, folic acid, and vitamins A, B6, C, and E — alter immune responses in animals, as measured in the test tube. However, the impact of these immune system changes on the health of animals is less clear, and the effect of similar deficiencies on the human immune response has yet to be assessed. But the research at this stage is promising, at least for some of the micronutrients.<br><br><a href="http://www.health.harvard.edu/flu-resource-center/how-to-boost-your-immune-system.htm" target="_blank">http://www.health.harvard.edu/flu-re...une-system.htm</a></div>
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That's how sick I was too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Did you run a high fever too? I lost 5 pounds in 3 days.</div>
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I'm not sure if i checked my temp, i think i lost like 8 pounds too, oh and it had to be what i ate at the restaurant, i didn't eat anything else that day, and i think it depends on the type of bacteria how long it takes to set in.
 

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I'm not sure if i checked my temp, i think i lost like 8 pounds too, oh and it had to be what i ate at the restaurant, i didn't eat anything else that day, and i think it depends on the type of bacteria how long it takes to set in.</div>
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Definitely. The first part of my post actually wasn't directed at you, it was a general random fact comment <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Years ago when there was an E Coli breakout in beef, a child died and while they thought it was the tacos he ate that day, it was really the hamburger from a BBQ that took place 2-3 days before. Not too long ago, a customer called to say his wife got sick from our food, but they had only eaten 10 minutes before and the food they had was fine. It was most likely from her breakfast or snack.
 
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