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I have a cold right now. You might ask: "Why, Dormouse, didn't you say you had a cold two weeks ago exactly?" Why, yes. Yes I did.<br><br>
In the last six months approximately I have had at least 5 colds. They have not been evenly distributed. In October/November, I had two colds back to back (I couldn't celebrate Halloween) and now that has happened again. Before this strange disease-ridden period, I could usually expect to get sick only once a semester. The semester that my university had terrible forecasts about swine flu, I didn't get sick at all because I was so diligent about using hand sanitizer and vitamin C consumption.<br><br>
I don't feel like I've started doing anything that much different. I stopped religiously drinking orange juice and V8, but I'm fairly certain I'm still getting lots of Vitamin C. (I'm a tomato fiend. I will eat a tomato like an apple). I exercise regularly when I'm not sick. Maybe it's because I stopped being anal retentive about using hand sanitizer? (It has a tendency to leak all over my purse.) Could it be that I don't keep my apartment clean enough? Maybe the fact that I've been uber-stressed a lot during this period has weakened my immune system? Maybe I have some rare immune disease and am slowly dying?<br><br>
I'm not sure, but I am sick of being sick! I would appreciate any insights, suggestions, questions, anecdotes, scolding.
 

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Do you wash your hands often? And stress can kill your immune system!
 

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You could have seasonal (Winter/indoor) allergies. I get 'colds' that last from October-April and was diagnosed with possible seasonal allergies.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Scorpius</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3083867"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
You could have seasonal (Winter/indoor) allergies. I get 'colds' that last from October-April and was diagnosed with possible seasonal allergies.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> I get colds every single morning this time of the year.
 

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Sorry that you keep getting sick.<br><br>
When I was stressed out last winter I had 6 colds - and that's not including the change-of-season colds I also suffered. So for me, it was definitely stress related. I took a multi called Astra 8 when I felt I was getting sick. It seemed to help.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>dormouse</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3083864"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I stopped religiously drinking orange juice and V8, but I'm fairly certain I'm still getting lots of Vitamin C. (I'm a tomato fiend. I will eat a tomato like an apple).</div>
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More C might help. Tomatoes have quite a bit of water in them, so unless you're eating a whole lot of them, you're probably getting less.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>dormouse</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3083864"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I exercise regularly when I'm not sick.</div>
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Exercise might help too.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Maybe it's because I stopped being anal retentive about using hand sanitizer?</div>
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That could be part of it. Particularly after touching anything others have touched or shaking hands.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Could it be that I don't keep my apartment clean enough?</div>
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That should not be a problem, unless you're suffering from mold or dust/dust mite allergies instead of viruses. Viruses will not grow in your room due to poor cleaning, but it could make allergies worse (which have similar symptoms).<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>dormouse</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3083864"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Maybe the fact that I've been uber-stressed a lot during this period has weakened my immune system?</div>
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Very likely.<br><br><br>
I hope you feel better.<br><br><br>
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I have been feeling like crap for the last 8 days and felt the same way about three weeks before. For some reason, I have been really nauseous and I don't usually get nauseous. I have also been getting terrible sinus headaches so the allergy thing could be a part of it as well. I guess I was just letting you know that I know how you feel and it sucks.
 

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Thanks, everyone. Stress seems to be a likely culprit. I'm not really sure what I can do about that though.
 

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Hand sanitizer is a placebo unless you're scrubbing for like five minutes. Only real washing is truly effective. Are you going outside much? It isn't the cold that causes colds, it's peoples' reaction to cold. Staying indoors more, relying on heating and cooling more, wearing more clothes... perfect breeding ground for nasty stuff. Fresh air, often, does wonders.
 

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I don't eat out during cold and flu season. Very few people who work in food service get sick days. If they don't show up, they don't make rent, so there is a strong incentive to go to work regardless of how they are feeling. Food that is warm and wet is ideal for transmitting germs.<br><br>
Being in situations where you come into contact with a lot of other people and the things they touch, like school, can be a factor too....more people who are showing up out of necessity and inadvertently spreading germs.<br><br>
I hope you feel better.
 

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I agree with the suggestions of allergies.<br><br>
are you sure its a cold? if the mucus is clear or white, its probably allergies.</div>
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The allergy suggestion is interesting. I've thought of that before. I have sometimes taken Claritin in these instances, but it has been ineffective. That's why I have assumed they are colds. I guess I could be wrong though. My cold two weeks ago was really just a really runny nose...very well could have been allergies.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I don't eat out during cold and flu season. Very few people who work in food service get sick days. If they don't show up, they don't make rent, so there is a strong incentive to go to work regardless of how they are feeling. Food that is warm and wet is ideal for transmitting germs.<br><br>
Being in situations where you come into contact with a lot of other people and the things they touch, like school, can be a factor too....more people who are showing up out of necessity and inadvertently spreading germs.<br><br>
I hope you feel better.</div>
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That's an interesting idea. I don't think I'm eating out more than I used to, so that wouldn't account for the increase, but it could be something I could do to reduce my risk.<br><br>
I am a student, but I have been for four years, so that also does not account for the increase.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Sorry that you keep getting sick.<br><br>
When I was stressed out last winter I had 6 colds - and that's not including the change-of-season colds I also suffered. So for me, it was definitely stress related. I took a multi called Astra 8 when I felt I was getting sick. It seemed to help.</div>
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Ugh, that sounds similar to this. Is there anything special about Astra 8? How did you overcome your stress? Was it just situational?<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I have been feeling like crap for the last 8 days and felt the same way about three weeks before. For some reason, I have been really nauseous and I don't usually get nauseous. I have also been getting terrible sinus headaches so the allergy thing could be a part of it as well. I guess I was just letting you know that I know how you feel and it sucks.</div>
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I appreciate the commiseration. I hope you feel better too.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Hand sanitizer is a placebo unless you're scrubbing for like five minutes. Only real washing is truly effective. Are you going outside much? It isn't the cold that causes colds, it's peoples' reaction to cold. Staying indoors more, relying on heating and cooling more, wearing more clothes... perfect breeding ground for nasty stuff. Fresh air, often, does wonders.</div>
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I actually keep my apartment quite cold, because I find the dry air of heat annoying. I do perhaps stay inside too much.<br><br>
I will try to wash more, rather than rely on hand sanitizer.
 

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Upping your zinc intake might help.</div>
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Good suggestion. I'll look into zinc-rich foods.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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More C might help. Tomatoes have quite a bit of water in them, so unless you're eating a whole lot of them, you're probably getting less.<br><br><br><br>
Exercise might help too.<br><br><br><br>
That could be part of it. Particularly after touching anything others have touched or shaking hands.<br><br><br><br>
That should not be a problem, unless you're suffering from mold or dust/dust mite allergies instead of viruses. Viruses will not grow in your room due to poor cleaning, but it could make allergies worse (which have similar symptoms).<br><br><br><br>
Very likely.<br><br><br>
I hope you feel better.<br><br><br>
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Thanks for the suggestions, vep. I think I should start drinking juice again regularly. Maybe my fruit and veggie input just isn't cutting it.
 

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I will try to wash more, rather than rely on hand sanitizer.</div>
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Please don't. No offense to what's his name, but he doesn't know what he's talking about <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br>
Washing is only advisable if your hands are visibly dirty (in which case a hand sanitizer would not be very useful). Not only is soap and water not very effective against viruses, but it will dry your hands out more than a hand sanitizer.<br><br>
The usefulness of washing or hand sanitizing can be questioned for colds (where it seems most transmission is by air), but there is no question of the ability of hand sanitizer to actually sanitize if it is formulated and used properly- it's just a question of whether you're actually likely to catch a cold by hand contact (i.e. you may not have to wash your hands at all).<br><br>
However, every major health organization, including the CDC, generally recognizes the value of hand sanitizers- and controlled studies prove it. You should be able to expect around 40% fewer sick days if you use it regularly and properly (and use reputable hand sanitizer). This may be attributable to other pathogens which are often spread by hand contact rather than colds (I don't know), but there is that.<br><br>
If used correctly, hand sanitizers are extremely effective at killing most bacterium and viruses (whether you need to kill them or not, including those that cause the common cold- although not touching your face or food <i>might</i> be arguably as effective).<br><br>
About usage, though: If you use it properly, you should use enough to completely wet your hands, front, back, between fingers, and nails. Rub for thirty seconds until it dries. Also pay attention to the type you are using; it should be 60%+ alcohol (70% - 95% is better), or contain a long lasting antiseptic (like povidone iodine, or a few others).<br><br>
Certain "natural" hand sanitizers without alcohol (or without enough alcohol) or legitimate antiseptics are useless. 40% alcohol might as well be water, for example.<br><br><br>
Now a mask or even a vaccine would be <i>much</i> more effective... but short of that, hand sanitizer (and avoiding people) is about the best you can do (which at least seems to do something, although maybe not much, but particularly more than soap and water).<br><br>
Good health!<br><br>
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Sorry you're not feeling well. I agree with all the suggestions about getting more Vitamin C and Zinc. I myself have difficulties fighting off infections, and I tend to get sick a lot, mostly because of allergies and sinus issues. Yesterday I picked up Buried Treasure's ACF Fast Relief Immune Support at the store. It's a combination of herbs and Vitamin C and Zinc, and wow, it's worked for me.
 

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I went to the doctor yesterday, because my ears were killing me. When I was a kid I got so many ear infections in my right ear, so I'm well familiar with them. Now I have some antibiotics and pseudophedrine, which is really making a difference. I'm still waiting for the clogged ear to drain though.
 

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It could just be the same cold, and you keep thinking it's gone and it hasn't. Although 6 months seems like a long time for that, but I rarely get colds and then last year I kept having a cold, the symptoms fading for about a week, and then comming back - for about 2 or 3 months. I spoke to a doctor because I was doing a clinical trial at the time and just wanted to check it wasn't related (as I rarely get colds, I was worried too) and was told it was most likley the same cold, rather than seperate ones.<br><br>
Another thought was if you've been sharing equiptment that touches mouths/etc or been around infants a lot more recently. My mum always got a lot of colds when working at a nursery, and I've known relatives who had shared headsets at work and got a drastic increase in colds during that time. So it could be something like that.<br><br>
Or even just a coincidence. Lots of colds are about in the winter and you're more suspectable to them. Flu/cold goes around the student population very quickly too, especially at the begining of term/winter. A mix of meeting/living with lots of new people, poor hygeine, lots of drinking and not eating properly adds up to LOTS of illness, even if that doesn't apply to you it might to your friends/etc that you share classes/lectures with. I swear in the first few months of term there is a CONSTANT flow of coughing throughout lectures and everybody is sick.<br><br>
Whatever it is... I hope the drugs keep working well and they go away for good <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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My stress was definitely situational (I won't bore you with the details).<br><br>
Astra 8 is an immune tonic and is based on Chinese herbal medicine. You can get it in liquid or tablet form. It's made in Australia by Fusion health, so I'm not sure how easy it is to find outside oz. I hope you can source it though, it definitely helps (especially if you take it when you start to get mild cold symptoms before it hits properly).
 
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