[vegan23]

i went to the dermatologist today and he said i had a fungus infection on my toe nail and another possible one on my left leg where i get very itchy sometimes. he gave me some pills i need to take for 4 months, lamisil, plus 2 cremes for my leg. is there any good vegan way to treat fungus or should i just go ahead with this? i also have this problem with my toes , they get very red when i'm standing up sometimes. one of the big toes increases in volume and gets even more red than the others, making it hard for me to stand up. when i get them into a relaxed position they go back to normal after a few minutes. he told me to get an echography to check my blood circulation and i'm scheduled for that in a few days. anyone know what the problem could be with my circulation and what exactly will they do to me at the ultrasound check? thank you for any help <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[catswym]

well, i would say: lamisil is hard on your liver and very unlikely to undo the fungal infection in your toenails.<br><br><br><br>
you leg is a different issue and the creme should clear that up.<br><br><br><br>
the best thing for your feet is to make sure they are kept dry and aired out as much as possible.

 

[Lothar M Kirsch]

Lamisil is good against fungal infections, but as catswym said: it's hard on the liver. And it has a long half-life. External medications as cremes aren't as reliable. The question is how much risk you take.<br><br>
Swelling of the toe and echocardiography -: ??? I don't see a direct link.<br><br>
When your toe gets red, is it also warming up? Does anything cold make it better? Has Raynaud's phenomenon or erythromelalgia been discussed?

 

[catswym]

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External medications as cremes aren't as reliable.</div>
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i think the creme is for the fungal infection on the skin of the leg(?), which should be fine. but definitely not for the toenail.

 

[vegan23]

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Lamisil is good against fungal infections, but as catswym said: it's hard on the liver. And it has a long half-life. External medications as cremes aren't as reliable. The question is how much risk you take.<br><br>
Swelling of the toe and echocardiography -: ??? I don't see a direct link.<br><br>
When your toe gets red, is it also warming up? Does anything cold make it better? Has Raynaud's phenomenon or erythromelalgia been discussed?</div>
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yes, it's warming up and swelling, like you said cold makes it better. that and getting back into a more relaxed position. he just said i should take an echography for the toe, i'll ask more the next time i go. what do you think i could have? also what else could i use to treat the fungus ? and yes, the creme is for my itchy leg. he actually gave me 2 cremes but one has a lot of animal ingredients, i think i'll just use the one that doesn't <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> what could the lamisil do to me? why would he give me that if it could destroy my liver?

 

[vegan23]

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<div class="quote-block">Erythromelalgia, also known as Mitchell's disease (after Silas Weir Mitchell) and red neuralgia, is a rare disorder in which blood vessels, usually in the extremeties and especially in the feet, are blocked and inflamed, causing a painful burning and throbbing sensation and red skin. The attacks come and go, and tend to be worse in summer.</div>
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this sounds almost 100 percent like what i have. all my toes get a little red but they don't cause any pain and they don't bother me at all. only one of the big toes increases in volume, gets hot and i feel it pulsing, also with some pain that makes it hard for me to stand up. plus it's a lot worse and more often in the summer, just like in the quote above. do you think this is it?

 

[jeneticallymodified]

isn't grapefruitseed extract (citrocidal) meant to be good for fungal stuff? i know i use it (properly diluted) for candida, and as a mouthwash, etc. it might be worth looking into- i'm sure someone else knows more about it though.

 

[Blue Plastic Straw]

Tea tree oil has been used with some success to treat toenail fungus. It has to be done consistently, and it can some time to see results (up to a year).<br><br><br><br>
There a several methods of application, but the one I've heard recommended most is placing 10-15 drops of oil on a cotton ball and taping it on the nail over night.

 

[Minibean]

This is vegan: <a href="http://www.fonoils.com/nailfungus.html" target="_blank">http://www.fonoils.com/nailfungus.html</a> They also sell stuff for ringworm and other types of fungus.<br><br><br><br>
I think I also read somewhere about soaking nails in vinegar to cure fungus.

 

[vegan23]

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This is vegan: <a href="http://www.fonoils.com/nailfungus.html" target="_blank">http://www.fonoils.com/nailfungus.html</a> They also sell stuff for ringworm and other types of fungus.<br><br><br></div>
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do you have any idea how good these are?

 

[Lothar M Kirsch]

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isn't grapefruitseed extract (citrocidal) meant to be good for fungal stuff? i know i use it (properly diluted) for candida, and as a mouthwash, etc. it might be worth looking into- i'm sure someone else knows more about it though.</div>
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There might be some wisdom in it, but it hasn't been properly tested (do the claims stand a test). With certain immunesuppressant you are advised not to drink grapefruit juice because of interactions (cyclosporin A).

 

[Minibean]

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do you have any idea how good these are?</div>
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No, sorry. I just noticed it while looking at something else on that site.

 

[skanky]

I had a fungus infection on a toenail a few years back. I tried to get it to go away using just about everything I could find that claimed to do so on a natural basis. Nothing worked. On the non-natural side, I tried chlorine bleach which gave the best results of anything I'd tried up to that point, but it still wouldn't go away. Long story short, toenail fungus is based in the nail bed. So it's got a direct feed from your blood system. That's where it needs to be killed. NOTHING TOPICAL WILL WORK. I mean, I'm sure a few exceptions to this have happened, but people live through lightening strikes too. After living with and trying to get rid of that dumb fungus for 5 YEARS, I tried Lamisil tablets. The infection was gone in a month. My nail grew out all the grossness in a little less than a year. I haven't had it come back since. The Lamisil tablets I used were prescribed using pulse dosing. That means not taking one tablet every day for x amount of time, but rather two tablets a day, twice a week. Pulse dosing is supposed to be easier on your liver. Blood tests after I was off Lamisil showed that everything was fine with my liver. Anyway, good luck.

 

[Fyvel]

I've heard accounts of Vicks Vapo Rub (of all things) being useful for toenail fungus. Sounds crazy, but if it were me, I would at least give it a shot <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[Trueveggie14]

When I was in the military, I got a toenail fungus infection from the showers (even though I wore shower shoes). <a href="http://www.poshe.com/index~display~products~action~detail~pid~10.htm" target="_blank">Poshe Cutilcle Oil</a> and <a href="http://www.poshe.com/index~display~products~action~detail~pid~9.htm" target="_blank">Basecoat</a> worked for me. You have to apply the polish every other day and the cuticle oil twice a day. It doesn't look like there are any animal ingredients. Make sure to "paint" the underside of your nail. My toes looked clean and beautiful again in less than 3 months.

 

[Bonoluvr]

Hi there,<br><br>
I am a Nurse Practitioner......some natural things I have tried with patients with some good results are tea tree oil and/or vicks vapo rub.......you can rub both right into the nail with the fungal problem.<br><br>
yes lamisil is very hard on the liver and im assuming the doc did some blood work to check your liver function before telling you to start? this is standard and i also check again a couple weeks after the patient has started lamisil and at the end too.<br><br>
good luck!

 

[MJZ]

Err im sure the vast majority of these people dont have medical degrees... listen to your dermatologist they somtimes know what they are talking about at least more frequently then people online....<br><br><br><br>
They do specialize in skin you know

 

[Fyvel]

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Err im sure the vast majority of these people dont have medical degrees... listen to your dermatologist they somtimes know what they are talking about at least more frequently then people online....<br><br><br><br>
They do specialize in skin you know</div>
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from the OP's orginal post, it seemed as though they were looking for alternative treatments that may not have such serious side effects. If a topical treatment of something harmless can fix the problem, it is better than taking a medication that can damage the liver.

 

[carried]

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When I was in the military, I got a toenail fungus infection from the showers (even though I wore shower shoes). <a href="http://www.poshe.com/index~display~products~action~detail~pid~10.htm" target="_blank">Poshe Cutilcle Oil</a> and <a href="http://www.poshe.com/index~display~products~action~detail~pid~9.htm" target="_blank">Basecoat</a> worked for me. You have to apply the polish every other day and the cuticle oil twice a day. It doesn't look like there are any animal ingredients. Make sure to "paint" the underside of your nail. My toes looked clean and beautiful again in less than 3 months.</div>
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what if the nail is gone completely?

 

[Trueveggie14]

^^ eee gawd that sounds painful. You must have it covered, right? If your toe is just raw skin and no nail, I would think you'd have a bandage over it until the nail grows back in. You don't want to hurt it even more or get dirt in there. Take it off and clean it every night with an anteseptic.<br><br><br><br>
Try just the Poshe Cuticle Oil. It contains a broad-spectrum anti-fungal, anti-bacterial. Hope it helps.