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I was on my way to work and I passed a truck of cows bound for slaughter. It really depressed me. It isn't like I haven't seen it before but today was different. I could see them lying down in there, helpless. Then I get to work and my office manager asks me " How do you keep healthy?" (I really hate this one!)<br><br>
So I go on and explain the doctor approved logic behind vegan lifestyle and the whole time she is shaking her head and interupts me to say " Well that's not true,because my friend nearly died from a diet like that."<br><br>
She only brought it up to argue with me, as this is her way.<br><br>
So I drop the subject because I get too passionate at times and I was at work.<br><br>
I get home and in the attempt to find some sympathy. I tell of the events to my "meat-eating" fiancee. His response was " It sounds like a compliment. She just wanted to know how you stay in shape!"<br><br>
BLESS HIS IGNORANT HEART!<br><br>
Thanks for letting me vent.. By the way Oatmeal if you read this I love your views on things. I m on your wave length!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Oh boy have i had days like this.<br><br><br><br>
It can get depressing at times, but I always feel better knowing that at the very least i'm doing my part and that i would much prefer to have a clear consicence, and feel great health wise than to stop having days like that.<br><br><br><br>
Somtimes i think poor omnis don't know what they are missing out on.
 

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When I ate meat, I was sitting at a McDonald's eating a McRib sandwhich. In the parking lot was a truck of cows on their way to slaughter. I was sitting facing the window watching the same animal I was eating. I couldn't finish it. THat was one of a series of many events that helped me to decide not to eat them. It's real heartbreaking to have to see it, isn't it?
 

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Bless your non-ignorant heart, Mrs save the silent! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Give your office manager and husband a swift kick up the arse! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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heart breaking. maybe more should see what u did. but i wonder, would they "see" what u saw if they did?
 

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I know how you feel. I get that same feeling when I'm in the grocery store and see all the corpses wrapped neatly in plastic... Makes me sick. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Aw, sounds like a bad day for veg*nism. Hang in there, you're not alone.<br><br>
I think the thing to do is look back on your omni days (assuming you weren't raised vegan) and remember how it felt. I was one of those "can't you eat it just this once?" omnis...if I had seen a truckload of doomed animals, I would have been sickened by it but immediately forced it out of my head. Omnis are just more blocked than we are. Be happy with the knowledge that they're lying to themselves and you no longer are!
 

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Tell your co-worker if she's going to bate you to get her facts straight from her friend because there is no way in hell someone could almost die from following a similiar diet and lifestyle as you. I would have told her either her friend is lying to her, leaving some major facts out, or your co-worker has twisted what she heard. I'm sorry but reading your post annoyed me, I'm so sick of people using half truths and misinformation to condemn vegetarians and vegans. She's willing to recognize how great you look, which is a reflection of your health, yet, she just couldn't give it to you. It always amazes me how much people resist looking at the truth of how healthful a plant based diet is.
 

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Thanks so much for the response! It made my evening!<br><br>
This is the first forum I've been active in and I really love it!!<br><br>
What wonderful support you all are!
 

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SunshineMelissa: If you want you should add that story to the "Signs You Should Be a Veg*n" thread. It reminds of the story I heard (probably here on VB, maybe even on that thread) about Paul Linda McCartney; the legend is that while they were eating lamb they looked out the window and saw sheep and lambs outdoors ... and decided to become vegetarians.<br><br><br><br>
Save the silent: seeing those trucks is just the worst; right before I went veg I saw a truckload of pigs stacked in cages go by. It was stopped at a light and I was looking down at it ... dreadful. It makes you feel angry, sad, and powerless all at once.
 

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I witnessed the same thing about three times this weekend while traveling to Alabama and back via the interstate -- just looking into those cows' eyes broke my heart. And like you, this is certainly not the first time I've seen such a truck, but this weekend (as in similar instances) I was deeply saddened and felt that way for quite some time after the truck passed by.<br><br><br><br>
So, to respond to your subject line, you're definitely not alone on this. But as sad as I feel about those cows and their certain fates, I can also feel a glimmer of hope because I and many, many other likeminded folks (such as my fiance, who sat in silence with me after seeing the trucks this weekend, and the kind people here at VB) are making at least a small difference by making the decision not to eat meat.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, that's my .02. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I know how you feel also Silent.. I just got my PETA newsletters in the mail yesterday and the article on fishing and the photos of fish caught in the nets actually made me start crying and I didn't even read the rest of the magazine. I always get in arguments at work with a couple of the girls who don't consider fish animals.. HOW FRUSTRATING!
 

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i had a similar situation recently. I made friends with a beautiful pig that was housed on my route to the yoga center. I would pull over and pet her and talk with her. She was so wonderful (they are so smart!).<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, finally the owner came out ot ask what i was doing (i'd visited the pig 4 or 5 times at this point)--i told him i was enjoying his pig. I asked if she was a pet or bound for dinner. He said they were going to have a pig roast. I told him that she was a truly wonderful pig, perhaps he should not eat her--and if he still insisted, i could purchase her from him.<br><br><br><br>
He said i could, for like $700 dollars--which i think is a bit much. Besides, i don't have it. But, i offered him $200 (after a bit of research), and he said he'd think about it. Then, i found a home for her (farm), and i promised to pay $50 per month for her care.<br><br><br><br>
I went to pick her up yesterday, but he'd already slaughtered her. He said he felt it was better if he just did it before i got any crazy ideas. I told him that i wasn't pleased, and i also gave him a lot of vegetarian information (vegan outreach stuff, actually, because it is what i had). Then he had the audacity to invite me to the pig roast.<br><br><br><br>
By the way, i'm going to the pig roast--and i'm taking VEGAN items. I"m also going to tell everyone about the WONDERFUL pig that they're eating. I'm also going to leave before the bring her out! Ha! He invited me--so there!<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, veyr frustrating too when people try to bait you into things. I would have said to her--then apparently your friend didn't do it properly. A healthy vegan diet sustains most people. IF she didn't get enough nutrients--regardless of whether or not her diet was vegan or otherwise--then she was bound to be sick.<br><br><br><br>
Also, since she opened the door, get some good health-vegetarian articles and put them on her desk!
 

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Good for you trying to save the pig.. me personally.. I would've stolen her in the night and left the $200 on the guy's door. Piggies are so cute!
 

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theft isn't an option for me. it goes against my moral code. besides, we basicly had an agreement that he would at least consider selling her to me--and tell me no--before he killed her. But, he decided otherwise.<br><br><br><br>
anyway, i'm making all of my favoriates for the roast--mostly salads of different sorts: 2 kinds of cole slaw, cucmber salad, spicy sweet potato salad, potato salad, avacado and fennel salad, jamacian jerked tempeh on skewers, and perhaps even my "vegan wings" with spicy dipping sauce.<br><br><br><br>
Yeah. sunday. vegan feast for omnis. That's a lot of food. Anyway, i can only stay for an hour.
 

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i think you feel alone because you don't have any like-minded people around you, in real life.<br><br>
i think it'd be wiser to find them, instead of hoping that people around you will change or *really* understand.<br><br><br><br>
ignorance is anything but a blessing. it's what is causing all the problems in the first place.
 

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You go Zoebird and show em what vegans are made of in that what is you eat is (in essense of substance, not least morally) what you are... and that eating and killing a pig the way the farmer did in his calleous pisstaking sarcasmic bludgeoneering manner only prooves further that he should have gotten slaughtered and not the pig and afterall the pig is more intelligent than that particular animal-waster.<br><br>
I hope you achieve your objective at the roast and please be careful for such things as watching out for sabotages to your vehicle (if you have or use one) whilst unattended just in case someone gets other ideas about what you are trying to promote among them all... I know you'll only be there for an hour, but just be careful anyway ok! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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zoebird, your reaction was great! i definitely would not have been able to remain so controlled and could never make it through the pig roast--guess i still have a lot to work on!<br><br>
i too have passed huge trucks of cows bound for slaughter and feel so helpless and infuriated at the same time! and some days i definitely feel so alone in my animal views. i too have coworkers question me, and the other day i was relaying a story to some of them about why i was a little late--a stray puppy was sitting in the road of my development and didn't move when he saw my car. his lack of fear scared me, especially since there's a somewhat busy road nearby. so i attempted several times to follow him, get out of my car and coerce him over, to no avail. finally i called my husband (and woke him up) and told him to look for him--i had to get to work! anyway, after telling the story, one of my coworkers looked at me and said i "missed my calling." i looked at her blankly, thinking, "what, wouldn't everyone try to help a stray dog?". and then realized the sad truth--no, most wouldn't. and that's a DOG!!<br><br>
anyway, i digress. just wanted to illustrate a point. lately though, i kind of find myself looking back wistfully on my omni days (don't worry, i could NEVER go back even if i tried!), for the sheer fact that during that time, my eyes were closed and ignorance was bliss. i didn't feel the weight of the meat-eating world so heavily.<br><br>
how does the quote go? "with great wisdom, comes great sadness" or something like that.
 

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sunshinegirl:<br><br><br><br>
well, i am sad about the pig, and i will leave before he brings her out. I asked him if he would tell me before they bring her out, so that i could leave and not see her carcass all cooked and so terribly used. I have a great deal of love for the living, and i greatly dislike what we do to the dead (whether that's eat them, in the case of many animals, or embalm them in the case of most humans). I do not go to human viewings either.<br><br><br><br>
I'll remember my pig as she lived, i'll know the way she died, i'll mourn her in my own way. Part of that is being with the others who knew her, even if they only knew her as "the pig we're killing for our family pig roast!" Because perhaps they'll learn that there is another way of seeing a pig--as a companion, or interesting being, in their world. And if they see that, because i'm there, sharing my perspective and who i am, and honoring her by honoring my self and my own ideas--then who knows.<br><br><br><br>
Also, i'm making connections. I realize that if i want to change the world for the better, i have to be the best *me* that i can be, and also reach out to others with compassion. i strive to take a "no blame" approach. There's an article about it in the current shambala sun magazine.<br><br><br><br>
Although i disagree with some of the premises/points of the article, i believe that blame is unnecessary just as much of the artcile kinda portrays. You know, in a lot of ways, people can't help the way that they are until they are shown that there is a better way. By accepting them with all of their flaws, and not trying to see the differences between us (because we're all the same mix of divinity and humanity), we can come to an understanding of each other.<br><br><br><br>
I really believe that it works. Also, i'm taking gift certificates to my yoga studio near by. I'm bringing 10 GC for 10 classes each--a $100 value. It's just starting, so i need the students, but i also want to really bring these people into my world. I mean, sure, it won't bring my pig back--but it may make their lives much richer, so that next time, maybe they think, "I'll pass on pork this time" and that's a start. And maybe it will lead to a deeper sort of healing, the kind that reveals us all to that which we really are--the Divine.<br><br><br><br>
perhaps it's just a long shot that a pig can do so much for people. but i'm doing it anyway.
 
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