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(Now that I have your attention.) Okay, lately I've been thinking. I'm so different than every other veg*n out there. I'm conservative where most are liberal. I'm religious where most question an "organized" faith. I'm Republican and, on another site, was told I couldn't be veg*n and vote this way. I believed veg*nism included a loving, accepting attitude towards others yet frequently don't see evidence of this. For example, I never knew so many people disliked America/Americans. It just seems like everything I've believed in so strongly for the last two and half years, I'm now questioning. Everything is spinning around in my head, out of order and it doesn't have a rhyme or reason.

Okay, post your thoughts/feelings/opinions. Just don't get too ugly 'cause I'm very sensitive.
Seriously, I'm interested in what others have to say.

Note: At this point, I'm not consuming animal products. So don't bash me. It's just I'm questioning things.
 

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Someone told you that you couldn't be vegan and conservative?!? Some people stretch the definition of vegan to include other issues but it really should be about whether or not you consume animals. The book Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy, was written by Matthew Scully, speechwriter for George W. Bush. I remember reading an article by a conservative vegetarian at the PETA website but I can't find it now.

There are people of all political persuasions here, so don't feel left out. ^_^
 

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Veganchick... instead of even bothering to give any weight to what someone else says is "supposed" to be the right way... just be yourself and do whatever makes YOU happy.

Many people like to "limit" themselves to the confines of a label (such as vegan = democrat and atheist) and that's fine if it works for them. However, what others think means absolutely nothing if its not what makes you happy. There are certainly others who share similar beliefs as yourself, but perhaps are not as "loud"


Be proud to be American... most of the haters only wish they could live in a country so prosperous.
 

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i really don't see the connection between veg*nism and these other things you mention. people who think that there must be some rigid definition of what it takes to be veg*n just don't understand it - veg*nism is about eliminating, or effectively, reducing the suffering/use of animals. if this is important to you, then i implore you to continue your ways and just smile to yourself when confronted with those who are less open-minded than yourself.
 

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I think it's good that you question yourself and your actions. It helps you to delve deeper within yourself to discover why you do certain things; and that's certainly a good quality to have. Ask yourself why you became vegan in the first place...perhaps it will jog your original feelings on the subject and make you stronger in your beliefs. On one hand, I would tell you that you should stay vegan because it's a benefit to your health and it's just a very nice thing to do....but on the other, I can't make this decision for you and questioning yourself may lead to the right answer for you.
Good luck.
 

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My favorite line from the post I referred to (regarding Republican =not vegan) is "Let's kill Bush and eat him". Well, hello? Thought we were supposed to be non-meateaters.
 

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You can hold whatever political ideologies you wish to. My g/f said she'd vote for the Tory party. On my list, these are second to last to what I'd vote (With the BNP taking the #1 spot, obviously!!) However, she says she'd like to see Britain join the Euro. For the non-british here, the tories want to keep the pound.

Do not feel bound by the old "i vote for X so i must follow these ideologies" thing. Do what you believe is the right thing. Not what others tell you to do. Besides, i see no reason why one can't be vegetarian and vote for some party. I htink its silly that anyone would even suggest that.

Remember - If you join the Tory party, then it is your duty to eat bananas!! If you don't eat bananas, then it is hypocritical to vote for the Tories!! (If this were true, i'd also wish that bananas were as unpopular as Iain Duncan Smith is, especially since I don't lik the Tories, Iain Duncan Smith or bananas.) But I guess you get the idea. Your political preferences should not reflect the way you choose to eat. If you want to be omni, then be omni. If you want to be veg, be veg, but don't assume that you should do so just because you prefer candidate X over candidate Y.
 

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veganchick,

I am on the other side of the poitical spectrum. I am very liberal and an atheist, but every vegan that I have ever met in real life is "spiritual" (It sets us apart).

It gets frustrating & annoying sometimes, but I would never stop being a vegan because of it. I think it is wrong to torture and eat animals, that is why I am a vegan, not to win friends. Although, friends would certainly be a plus.

I would never say that someone who is Republican could not be a vegan, but it is almost as confusing to me as a Catholic who supports abortion rights. (Yet, I see it as a possitive thing)

It is so nice to just "fit in" and share like opinions with a group of others, so that you know that you can express yourself without having to fight. Yet, I think arguments (if done respectfully) can change minds on both sides. I think groups where everyone thinks a like can be very dangerous.

The comment about Bush was probably written out of frustration, mostly. All we liberals have right now, is our little jokes. We need them!


If you are a strict vegetarian for health reasons, no liberal vegan should take that away from you. And if you are a vegan for ethical reasons, why would you ever let anyone make you go against your own ethics?
 

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I question my veganism every day, sometimes in a small way, sometimes in a big way (I always come out on the positive side, and always will).

I sometimes pity all the omnivores going along doing what they were brought up to do without thinking anything of it. Sometimes.
 

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I don't think I would really change, it's just that I've never questioned my reasons for being vegan before. For example, I really wanted some cereal this morning but there is only regular milk in the frig. (my DH is omni) and I just kept thinking of PETA's "Got Pus" campaign while I entertained the thought of using some. EW!! So needless to say I didn't have cereal.
I've enjoyed reading people's thoughts and hope more post.
 

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It's important to question everything. Questioning is the way to truth for yourself. Only when you come to your own conclusions can you truly own your feelings and beliefs.
 

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I'm religious and (mostly) republican...can't say I pay much attention to politics though.

I've questioned my being a vegetarian before...until I had a dream not too long ago about eating chicken....eewww.


It was gross, and I remember feeling guilty and saying I'd never eat it again in my dream.
 

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Be proud to be American... most of the haters only wish they could live in a country so prosperous.
I don't think that's true. I was born and raised and still live in America, and I'm a classified American-hater. I think the fact that you didn't realize there were so many people who dislike America and it's dictatorship says... well, nevermind.

You can be a republican vegan if you want to be.
 

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BTW, did you know that PETA's head of Vegan Outreach is a republican, a catholic and an outspoken anti-abortion activist.
 

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I don't think that's true. I was born and raised and still live in America, and I'm a classified American-hater. I think the fact that you didn't realize there were so many people who dislike America and it's dictatorship says... well, nevermind.

You can be a republican vegan if you want to be.
I'm not an American-hater, but I am saddened by the blinders that the majority of my countrymen (and women) choose to wear, and I do mean choose.
 

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Originally posted by veganchick

(Now that I have your attention.) Okay, lately I've been thinking. I'm so different than every other veg*n out there... I'm religious where most question an "organized" faith.
Well, I'm religious, too, so you're not entirely alone.


And I also feel a little different than some others here because I'm NOT into AR at all, really. I mean I *like* animals, but I'm a bit more into alleviating human suffering.

And I'm glad we're not all identical politically, religiously, and so on, because this would be an unbearably boring message board if we were.

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(Now that I have your attention.) Okay, lately I've been thinking. I'm so different than every other veg*n out there. I'm conservative where most are liberal. I'm religious where most question an "organized" faith. I'm Republican and, on another site, was told I couldn't be veg*n and vote this way. I believed veg*nism included a loving, accepting attitude towards others yet frequently don't see evidence of this. For example, I never knew so many people disliked America/Americans. It just seems like everything I've believed in so strongly for the last two and half years, I'm now questioning. Everything is spinning around in my head, out of order and it doesn't have a rhyme or reason.

Okay, post your thoughts/feelings/opinions. Just don't get too ugly 'cause I'm very sensitive.
Seriously, I'm interested in what others have to say.

Note: At this point, I'm not consuming animal products. So don't bash me. It's just I'm questioning things.
veganchick, we may be completely different ok so not completely.. we are both female, vegan and a great believers in god.. and well i could care less your political preferences.. i personally love you for who you are not who you voted for.. so no bashing from me!
 

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BTW, did you know that PETA's head of Vegan Outreach is a republican, a catholic and an outspoken anti-abortion activist.
No, I didn't know that. What is this person's name? Got a link to biographical info about him/her?
 

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I am religious..I believe in orgainized religion...I go to church every Sunday, I believe in doing things "decently and in order"..I am also Rebublican..I do not believe in "doing mine own thing". I am vegetarian and happy. I am on the path to becoming vegan..it takes all kinds to make the world go round. Find out where you fit and enjoy. Nothing wrong with being who you are, and vegetarian, vegan, or even Omni. I will never eat meat again though...
 

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No, I didn't know that. What is this person's name? Got a link to biographical info about him/her?
Bruce Friedrich. He's the second biggest person in PETA outside of Ingrid Newkirk. It talks about him in the new yorker article I posted.
 
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