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Hi.<br><br><br><br>
Just wondering if there are any other serious vegan athletes out there....<br><br><br><br>
As far as athletics go, I am a rock climber and am pretty serious about my sport and nutrtion.<br><br><br><br>
Its been my experience that most veg/vegans tend to lack balance and fullness in their diet and that's what leads to that stereotypical paleness and gauntness....(an unfair generality, of course)<br><br><br><br>
Are there any other serious vegan athletes out there with whom I can exchange training info?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks so much,<br><br>
G
 

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Hi georgefran,<br><br><br><br>
that's one hell of a pic in the gallery! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Well I'm not a 'serious' athlete in fact i'm quite silly in most of what i'm doing, but i am very much interested in health and nutrition. I do work out almost every day with weights and jog. And i used to be a swimmer though i gave up coached workouts years ago. But currently i'm not into competitive sports if that's what you mean. I just enjoy getting myself to sweat every day, so to speak.<br><br><br><br>
So i don't know if i can "help" or so, but i'm interested in what you have to say <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Oh yes and i'm vegan (looking into 'going raw').<br><br><br><br>
BTW, what do you mean with balance and fullness in the diet? I too think that many vegans have quite bad diets (of course NOBODY on this message board, hehe), i.e. not nearly reaching the full potential of vegan nutrition.<br><br><br><br>
So i guess i'm just curious, that's why i'm replying...
 

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Hi G<br><br><br><br>
I posted the marathon information and got a lot of interesting information back from VB'ers! I think I understand what you are asking - you want to know a way to maintain a training diet - not just eating for every day.<br><br><br><br>
I teach 6 exercise classes a week, I am training for a half marathon in August and one in January. Also - I have decided to do a fitness competition in November. The fitness competition is comprised of a swimsuit round (GROSS - I hate it so much - but I am an athlete and I am there for the points); running on a 150-180 yard obstacle course; fitness skills (box jumps; bench press and shuttle run); and a fitness routine. So......I consider myself pretty athletic.<br><br><br><br>
So far I have gotten some great info......lots and lots of nuts! I also have bought a juicer and juice fruit and veggies. I am also trying to eat at least 5-6 times a day. I use a soy shake for between meals and I can add it to my juice. If you are on the go a lot or are training a lot - you can add some bars if you are getting too full to eat. But I eat brown rice, tufu, whole wheat pasta, etc. You want to eat whole grains - as they are slowly released into your system (the sugars in them) and the extra bonus is they can keep you full a little longer.<br><br><br><br>
And just for an added boost - if you are really training hard for an event - you may just want to add an extra multi vitamin and I use flaxseed and evening primrose oil to help maintain good fats in my body and keep my joints lubricated (I'm old - I get sore and stay that way sometimes).<br><br><br><br>
Hope this helps!
 

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<b>George Fran,</b> Oatmeal AND newbie Smaurer!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> hello!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hi.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hi:"><br><br><br><br>
It is very relevant George AND VITAL of course that you should happen to mention diet... In particular because sometimes my diet<br><br>
goes crashing and it spoils my fitness and readiness for being fit for fitness if you see what I mean, & thereby comes back around<br><br>
to what I put in my body to make that "cycle of fitness" work....<br><br>
and trying to sustain energy isn't always easy as a vegan if your<br><br>
diet is stringent like mine.<br><br><br><br>
I will also add, although a keen/fervent fitness fan, I would still like to be something rather more serious than I am, but I always have in mind to gain prime targets and achievements in the world of fitness seeking as much total dedication as I can channel and commit myself to it and health generally, but if ever I fall short of targets or anything its not due to any lack of intention for being serious, but more to do with diet... and granted having a social impetus might be what I am needing to, in helping to boost my moralle as here at VB! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
(and <a href="http://www.veganrepresent.com" target="_blank">www.veganrepresent.com</a> lets not forget too).<br><br>
Another MAJOR forum, a great source & place to meet people!!
 

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while i'm not a seriously athlete (or any kind of athlete at the moment) but i'm looking to really increase my cardio work, and would appreciate any extra dietary related vegan advice too.
 

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I run quite a bit. The best diet -- I've found -- consists of lots and lots of grains. I felt, looked, and ran my best when I ate at least 10-13 servings per day. Major energy! And my performance was really great. Sounds like a lot, but not really -- a serving is only a quarter cup. I mix grains and add tons of spices to vary the flavor and throw in lots of vegetables too. My favorite is a medely of quinoa, amaranth, and brown rice. I also eat (well, I'm supposed to!) seaweed everyday mixed in with the grains. They contain lots of minerals which are depleted with heavy exercise.
 

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Let's keep this information coming. I think this is a valuable topic not just for athletes, but for all vegans. I think I have a fairly healthy diet, but I don't dissect it the way I do when I'm in a more competitive situation.<br><br><br><br>
I've done some climbing myself, but never over 5.9. I checked out that pic in the photo album. Very cool. Where is that climb?
 

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Out of curiosity, I did a Google search for you, and here's some of the many interesting pages that came up (I only went through the first 10 pages of a search on "vegan athletes"):<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.andrews.edu/NUFS/vegathletes.htm" target="_blank">http://www.andrews.edu/NUFS/vegathletes.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.brendanbrazier.com/concerns.html" target="_blank">http://www.brendanbrazier.com/concerns.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=51&q=http://www.earthsave.bc.ca/materials/archives/feb_mar_01.PDF&e=747" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start...r_01.PDF&e=747</a><br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=60&q=http://www.ais.org.au/nutrition/Chapter21.pdf&e=747" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start...er21.pdf&e=747</a><br><br><a href="http://veggie.org/msg-boards/sports2000/wwwboardindex.shtml" target="_blank">http://veggie.org/msg-boards/sports2...ardindex.shtml</a><br><br><a href="http://www.vancourier.com/114201/news/114101nn8.html" target="_blank">http://www.vancourier.com/114201/news/114101nn8.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.teampeta.com/TeamPeta.htm" target="_blank">http://www.teampeta.com/TeamPeta.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
Books that include significant coverage of nutrition for veg*n ahtletes:<br><br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=veggieboards.com-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2Ftg%2Fdetail%2F-%2F0471348082%2Fref%3Dpd_sim_books_1%2F104-1339985-5378330%3Fv%3Dglance%26s%3Dbooks" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books</a><br><br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=veggieboards.com-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2FASIN%2F1570671036%2Fqid%253D1051914252%2Fsr%253D11-1%2Fref%253Dsr_11_1%2F104-1339985-5378330" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...339985-5378330</a>
 

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As i mentioned above, i'm looking into the raw diet. one proponent of the (raw) vegan diet for athletes is dr. Doug Graham.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.doctorgraham.cc" target="_blank">http://www.doctorgraham.cc</a><br><br><br><br>
He has several articles on his website, mostly about nutrition for vegan athletes.<br><br><br><br>
He basically advocates a raw monodiet of fruits and veggies, some nuts. His diet is different from most raw diets in that it shoots for an 80/10/10 (percent of calories from carbs, protein, fat) - most raw diets are much higher on fat b/c avocado, nuts, oils...<br><br><br><br>
BTW - to stir things up a bit - he is also against the consumption of grains. He wrote a book called "Grain Damage". I haven't read it yet though...<br><br><br><br>
Without grains, to get 80/10/10 you have to eat a LOT of fruit... He maintains that complex carbs (as found in grains) are NOT the best source of carbs. The best source is the simple carbs in fruit.<br><br><br><br>
BTW, "Dr D" is also the moderator of the raw forum at vegsource.com, so there you can get a glimpse of what this diet looks like in practice.
 

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I've always found "raw" a fascinating idea. I'll have to look into that more. A friend of mine is predominantly raw, and we're supposed to have dinner with him and his wife. Maybe we can have a raw dinner party at his place.
 

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Thanks for all the great info guys...I'll check all those sites out...now for responses:<br><br><br><br>
To oatmeal: by balance and fullness I mean complete. Like having rice and beans to complete your protein, and not eating too many (non-sweet) potatoes or other highly glycemic foods, stuff like that.<br><br><br><br>
To epski: that climb is called "Predator" a 5.13b at Rumney, NH. a beautiful crag...and many thanks for the links.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by georgefran</i><br><br><b>To epski: that climb is called "Predator" a 5.13b at Rumney, NH. a beautiful crag...and many thanks for the links.</b></div>
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You're welcome. I'll have to get out to New England to try the climbing out there next time I'm in climbing form again.
 
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