[m4rk0]

From today's Chicago Tribune:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Several Chicago restaurants that have never before served foie gras will offer the dish on today in a one-day protest of the Chicago City Council's foie-gras ban.<br><br><br><br>
The ban, which the city's Department of Law says will take effect today, prohibits the sale of foie gras in Chicago restaurants and other food-dispensing establishments. But some chefs, supported by the Illinois Restaurant Association, say that the ban is unfair.<br><br><br><br>
And so, for one day only, diners will be able to order foie gras and beef tournedos Vesuvio style at Harry Caray's, soul-food-style foie gras at BJ's Market and Bakery and deep-dish foie-gras pizza at Connie's Pizza (but only at the pizza chain's Archer Avenue location).<br><br><br><br>
"In support of our restaurant brethren, we want to showcase foie-gras pizza to demonstrate what our government is trying to dictate," says Ivan Matsunaga, executive vice president of Connie's Pizza and chairman of the Illinois Restaurant Association.<br><br><br><br>
"We've never served foie gras in 20 years," says Grant DePorter, president of Harry Caray's restaurant. "But this ordinance is making Chicago into a national joke, at least in food circles. That's why we're doing it."</div>
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[puppyluv]

That is the STUPIDEST thing I ever read. I wonder if they banned selling pig turds if they would "highlight" that on their menu?<br><br><br><br>
What is so special about duck liver anyway? Even when I was a meat eater I wouldn't eat liver.<br><br><br><br>
However this shows that the root of the problem is the farms that raise geese for foie gras. Now if the government will close those down, Harry Carey's can go back to NOT selling foie gras and everyone will be happy--well at least the geese and vegetarians will.

 

[compassionate1]

God bless <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/26foiegras.html" target="_blank">Ald. Joe Moore</a>:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Ald. Joe Moore (49th) made no apologies for championing the foie gras ban. He contends the Council can walk and chew gum at the same time.<br><br><br><br>
Its not going to cost the taxpayers a single nickel. Its not taking away any funds from any other city services or human service programs. Its simply outlawing the product of a cruel and inhumane practice. Thats all it does, Moore said.<br><br><br><br>
Simply because there are other inhumane acts that occur against human beings and there are a lot of problems we need to deal with doesnt mean that we cant take a short moment out of the day and forbid the sale of a product . . . thats not going to effect anybody. Its not required for human sustenance.</div>
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That about sums it up quite well.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><br><br><br><br>
I'm definitely never eating at Harry Caray's or Connie's again (and I never even knew BJ's market existed, so they can bugger off as well).

 

[Skylark]

I'm not surprised other restaurants are mad. People will always be dumb.

 

[m4rk0]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>compassionate1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br>
I'm definitely never eating at Harry Caray's or Connie's again (and I never even knew BJ's market existed, so they can bugger off as well).</div>
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You and me both.

 

[carnelian]

<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/veryangry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":grr:">

 

[teddygee]

"... The ban is unfair. ..."<br><br><br><br>
To whom is it unfair? I'm sure that when the ducks at Hudson Valley don't have feeding tubes in their throats, they're vehemently speaking out against Chicago's foie gras ban.

 

[jonjan]

they don't want to be restricted... especially when it comes to their freedom to own their own business and create their profits. And if they think it's a silly issue, then they'd really be bothered by this law.<br><br><br><br>
but... there will always be people opposing a helping thing, because they don't understand, or don't want to understand. But also, this law will create a new culture in Chicago, and i might spread to other cities. The new culture of food will include that it is socially and culturally unacceptable to do certain things to 'farm animals'.. kids growing up in Chicago will have this belief around them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br><br><br>
It seems like the start of what so many quotes reference to... "when mankind will stop eating animals"<br><br>
When it's common belief and feeling that fois gras is cruel... people will be more open that other farm animal practices may be similarly cruel. .. I see a strong root that can grow deep and forever change the landscape <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[compassionate1]

Mayor Richard Daley is mocking it; he's done some good things for the city, but he's on the poop list now (the sun-times seems to be revelling in this). Here is more from the <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/foiegras22.html" target="_blank">Sun-Times</a>:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Mayor Daley urged the City Council Tuesday to come to its senses and repeal a foie gras ban that has made Chicago an international laughingstock in restaurant circles.<br><br><br><br>
Why would they pick this and not anything else? How about veal? How about chicken? How about steak beef?Where do you begin and where do you end? People say veal is basically cruelty to animals. I mean you could go on and on, Daley said.<br><br><br><br>
They have to re-evaluate this.They should come together and figure out what theyve done and realize that its a silly law.Its the silliest law theyve ever passed. They have a lot of silly laws passed there, but this thing is [ridiculous]If theres five or six restaurants [that sell foie gras] and we think thats the highest priority in city government, theyve lost sight of what priorities are about.<br></div>
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[Tesseract]

So is it just me, or is the mayor suggesting that laws prohibiting animal cruelty are silly?

 

[compassionate1]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tesseract</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
So is it just me, or is the mayor suggesting that laws prohibiting animal cruelty are silly?</div>
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Nope you're pretty much onto it. Apparently it's silly if it interferes with some effetes getting the chance to titillate their palates and some chefs to make some money.<br><br><br><br>
This is interesting, no? :<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Why would they pick this and not anything else? How about veal? How about chicken? How about steak beef?Where do you begin and where do you end? People say veal is basically cruelty to animals. I mean you could go on and on,<br></div>
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Should I call him on this and see if he will support a ban on veal?

 

[puppyluv]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tesseract</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
So is it just me, or is the mayor suggesting that laws prohibiting animal cruelty are silly?</div>
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Although I am disapointed in Mayor Daley's response, I can see his point. After all why would meat-eaters CARE about how an animal die or if its mistreated before death. After all, they figure one way or another its still going to end up on someone's plate and he's RIGHT, it will. Although I do not want to see any being on earth suffer and support animal rights activism, I think the only way to get through to most people is by showing them what factory farming is doing to the environment. At least that's my strategy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:">

 

[puppyluv]

Although I am disapointed in Mayor Daley's response, I can see his point. After all why would meat-eaters CARE about how an animal die or if its mistreated before death. After all, they figure one way or another its still going to end up on someone's plate and he's RIGHT, it will. Although I do not want to see any being on earth suffer and support animal rights activism, I think the only way to get through to most people is by showing them what factory farming is doing to the environment. After all Daley is a Democrat and aren't Democrats suppose to care about the environment? At least that's my strategy.

 

[puppyluv]

Good video:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=foie_gras_long&Player=wm&speed=_med" target="_blank">http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video....=wm&speed=_med</a>

 

[m4rk0]

From Chicago Sun Times:<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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As for the mayor's threat to be less than vigorous in enforcing a ban he has ridiculed from day one, Moore said, "It is the chief executive's responsibility to enforce every law that's passed by the City Council. He can't pick and choose which laws to enforce and which laws not to enforce. That's not the way our democracy works. I know the president of the United States has that attitude. But I would hope the mayor doesn't have that attitude."</div>
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[puppyluv]

There was an article in my local paper on Friday saying that a local restuarant here in Columbus, OH is going to START serving foie gras just because they don't think the Chicago city counsel should ban it in Chicago. It is not banned here so why didn't this restaurant serve it before? Apparently there hasn't been anyone asking for it. I hope no one buys it here. It would serve the restaurant owner right to lose money on his little act of "solidarity" with the Chicago restaurant owners who are defying the foie gras ban.

 

[Tesseract]

<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>puppyluv</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
There was an article in my local paper on Friday saying that a local restuarant here in Columbus, OH is going to START serving foie gras just because they don't think the Chicago city counsel should ban it in Chicago. It is not banned here so why didn't this restaurant serve it before? Apparently there hasn't been anyone asking for it. I hope no one buys it here. It would serve the restaurant owner right to lose money on his little act of "solidarity" with the Chicago restaurant owners who are defying the foie gras ban.</div>
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Go into the restaurant (or call them) and tell them you won't be eating there because they are now serving foie gras.

 

[Annikat]

Someone should ask these rich people if they would eat foie gras if someone was to shove a pipe down their designer dog's throat and serve up their liver.

 

[Dirty Martini]

So....<br><br><br><br>
Why isn't everyone boycotting all restaurants that serve veal?<br><br>
Or, restaurants that serve pork that comes from pigs that were in pens their entire lies?<br><br>
Or, restaurants that serve chicken from chickens that couldn't walk because they grew too quickly?<br><br><br><br>
Foie Gras is pretty cruel. But i'm not sure why it's any <i>more</i> cruel and worthy of discrimination than forms of cruelty.

 

[Sevenseas]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>OregonAmy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
So....<br><br><br><br>
Why isn't everyone boycotting all restaurants that serve veal?<br><br>
Or, restaurants that serve pork that comes from pigs that were in pens their entire lies?<br><br>
Or, restaurants that serve chicken from chickens that couldn't walk because they grew too quickly?<br><br><br><br>
Foie Gras is pretty cruel. But i'm not sure why it's any <i>more</i> cruel and worthy of discrimination than forms of cruelty.</div>
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Foie gras is a more elitist "food" than chicken flesh and thus more marginal in society and thus easier to attack. Probably more elitist than veal too.<br><br><br><br>
What would your suggestion be? If someone only boycotts restaurants serving foie gras (whoever that is), do you think it was better that they didn't "discriminate" against it?<br><br><br><br>
As I'm sure most people here won't object to the idea that it's better to boycott both veal and foie gras than only foie gras, I'm not sure what the point of the above post is supposed to be.