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Since this subject has come up very frequently, it was suggested that we make a stickied thread so that we don't have to dig back through old threads looking for FAM related discussion.<br><br><br><br>
I'm just beginning to explore this method myself, so I will leave it to other members to perhaps post some more detailed information. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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well, we can start with these links:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://fertilityfriend.com" target="_blank">Fertility Friend</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://gardenoffertility.com" target="_blank">Garden of Fertility</a> (book by Katie Singer)<br><br><br><br><a href="http://ovusoft.com" target="_blank">Taking Charge of Your Fertility</a> (book by Toni Weschler)<br><br><br><br><a href="http://creightonmodel.com" target="_blank">Creighton Model</a>
 

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yeah, i edited and then didn't edit. LOL <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> i'll edit now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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YAY!!! thanks jen <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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All very good stuff! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And this would be a good place for chart-related questions too, I suppose. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> Gotta find my thermometer... one of the kids snagged it from under my pillow last week.. it didn't matter then but I need to start temping again soon or I won't get confirmation of Ovulation... blah. (always good to have them say they agree with your idea of when it was)
 

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So, I'm having more questions than answers:<br><br><br><br>
First, the complex q: everything I've read seems to indicate that you need to take your temperature at the same time each day. However, our sleep patterns are quite varied. IS often gets up at 6:15ish, but sometimes takes an extra hour and goes into work later. I usually sleep late (until 8). It seems though, that if the alarm's going off when he wakes up, I should do the temp then, since I usually have restless sleep after that point. But, then to do it at the same time, I need to go for 6:15, which means our sleep is interrupted if we weren't planning to get up then (like say, on the weekend too). I've stuck with the 6:15 for a good while now, but I'd like to find out how much of a time variation is important.<br><br><br><br>
The simpler q: what do you guys do when you go on vacation wrt recording? I'm just using some paper charts now, but I plan to save them in a file folder. Do you have a journal or just haul the paper with you? (I'm worried about it getting smushed).
 

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Temp as soon from waking up the first time as possible. So if you wake at 6-something, temp and write it down real quick before you go back to sleep. That temp will be more accurate than one taken later, for your basal temp.<br><br><br><br>
Usually if you temp within 30-45 min of a certain time each day, that is best. If you have a varied schedule (like a nursing mom who has to wake with the child whenever they wake), it still DOES work, but your temps won't be *as* even. You'll find that they jump a bit more than "average" but you will still see the temp shift from ovulation.<br><br><br><br>
I write mine on paper while on vacation, and enter into FF.com when I get to a computer again. I can pretty well read mine these days, so I just make quick notes. I found a little sheet of paper online that could be printed off, by googling "printable BBT chart" or something.<br><br><br><br>
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i keep paper charts and i take that chart with me (one piece of paper, folded up, and kept with travel documents in one of those bill-type file folders).<br><br><br><br>
my DH takes my temperature at 6:20 am every morning (including weekends). his stomach wakes him up like clockwork at 5:30, he eats breakfast, and then comes to get my temp and records my temp (usually within 5 minutes of that time). i usually get up around 7.<br><br><br><br>
my thinking is this. if your DP usually gets up at 6, but sometimes gets up at 7, and you don't get up until 8, that your DP could wake you at 7 either way to get the temp. that way, on sleep-in days, you'll be able to wake on time, and one early mornings, you can be reminded to get up and temp.
 

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i keep paper charts and i take that chart with me (one piece of paper, folded up, and kept with travel documents in one of those bill-type file folders).<br><br><br><br>
my DH takes my temperature at 6:20 am every morning (including weekends). his stomach wakes him up like clockwork at 5:30, he eats breakfast, and then comes to get my temp and records my temp (usually within 5 minutes of that time). i usually get up around 7.<br><br><br><br>
my thinking is this. if your DP usually gets up at 6, but sometimes gets up at 7, and you don't get up until 8, that your DP could wake you at 7 either way to get the temp. that way, on sleep-in days, you'll be able to wake on time, and one early mornings, you can be reminded to get up and temp.
 

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Found that printable chart. You can write down your online chart (or copy a paper one) before you leave and just write down your info as you go along while you are gone. One piece of paper to take with you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And makes the chart easy to read.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.justmommies.com/articles/download-fertility-chart.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.justmommies.com/articles/...ty-chart.shtml</a>
 

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My temps are always really low. Before I ovulate they run 94.something to 95ish and after I ovulate they run no higher than 97. why is that?<br><br><br><br>
My dr said I didn't have thyroid trouble but that was many years ago. Maybe that's just normal for me.<br><br><br><br>
I had to make my own chart as my numbers were't even on there.
 

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perpetually low temps are a symptom of hypothyroidism. even though my thyroid always tests "within normal levels" my temps are low and this indicates a sluggish thyroid.<br><br><br><br>
thus, i do thyroid supporting practices (foods, cold water rinse after shower, yoga postures) and the temps increased a bit. not a ton--not to 'normal' levels, but a bit. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> and the overall cycle looks better too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
garden of fertility has great info about this, and susun weed's book wise woman herbal for the childbearing years is an excellent herbal for fertility health.
 

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Ok, now that I've had my baby, I'm ready to NOT be pregnant again anytime soon. Especially since it was a scary pregnancy (docs thought I had incompetant cervix, was on bedrest for two months scared out of my mind, then came off bedrest... and proceeded to have my baby at 40 weeks and 3 days a whole month after coming off bedrest...). But... since a subsequent pregnancy will likely have the same problem, i REALLY REALLY dont want to get pregnant again for a while. I also...<br><br><br><br>
-really really don't want to take hormones<br><br>
-won't get an IUD, because if you get PG while one is placed, its a high risk PG, and I CANNOT deal with another high risk pregnancy situation, I just can't!<br><br>
-wont use condoms.... sorry, i'm married, haven't touched a condom in 10 years and don't plan to start ;-)<br><br><br><br>
I do have a diaphragm and use spermicide with that, but I'd like to prevent using NFP as well... anyone have any ideas/advice?
 

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first, just because your first pregnancy was X, doesn't mean that your second will be--so i wouldn't be overly concerned about that overall. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> ok?<br><br><br><br>
second, there are two great books to read to help you use FAM:<br><br><br><br>
Katie Singer's <a href="http://gardenoffertility.com" target="_blank">Garden of Fertility</a><br><br><br><br>
and Toni Weschler's <a href="http://ovusoft.com" target="_blank">Taking Chart of Your Fertility</a>.<br><br><br><br>
You might also find the information on <a href="http://fertilityfriend.com" target="_blank">Fertility Friend</a> to be helpful, though their focus is on conceiving, not avoiding.<br><br><br><br>
Since you're nursing, you might want to focus on lactation ammorrhea (sp?) and the various fertility signs and how they show up during this time. I believe that Toni's book goes into more detail about this than katie's, but i don't recall specifically.
 
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i don't think 35 is too old at all- my mum had myself and my brother when she was in her mid to late 30's, and my best friends mum had her brother when she was aged 45. your fertility does decrease as you age, but i've seen plenty of women have kids in their mid thirties. while i'm in no way an expert, i beleive that a healthy diet and maintaining a healthy weight (which veganism can fit with) would make sense when it comes to improving your odds of acheiving a healthy pregnancy.
 

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35 is definitely not too old to try for a first baby.<br><br><br><br>
a vegan diet can help or hinder, depending upon the individual. for some people, it's a great, healing diet. for other people, it's a horrible disaster to their fertility.<br><br><br><br>
so, it could go either way.
 

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Nah. It may be a bit harder, but it's definitely still possible. I was just reading about this <i>today</i>, as I'm going to start tracking fertility signs again (to avoid pregnancy). 40 seems to be the key age. In the 35-39 age groups, most of the studies/excerpts I read had 1/2 of the women able to conceive within a year without additional assistance. After 40, it declined quickly to about 1 in 20.<br><br><br><br>
Definitely a healthful diet can help. And not just for the woman. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> We're still a couple of years away from parenthood (knock on wood), but I'm starting slowly to work on some of those things that may be helpful to conceive. Cutting out caffeine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/evil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":evil:">, monitoring my nutritional intake, trying to keep a healthy weight, etc.<br><br><br><br>
I will say, that in the UK, you might want to try relatively soon. I was at the FPC earlier this year for some other girly troubles and the doc there was asking why the man and I weren't trying to conceive yet. I said you know, we're not ready, we've only been together a couple of years, yada yada. She said she understood, but noted that the NHS physicians at least, generally won't talk to someone about assisting conception after 40, and that you needed to begin seeking treatment by 38. Furthermore, she suggested that many doctors won't worry about treatment until you've been actively trying to conceive for 6 months - 1 year (I've heard this in the States too). 36+ here, so mmyeah. Now it may be that you won't have any need for testing of hormone, egg reserves, ultrasounds, all that jazz, but it's something to keep in mind.
 
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