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So I went to my family Easter today and I don't know, I just felt like I didn't belong. They all know I'm a vegetarian now and for the most part they are pretty respectful, (although I'm sure they are saying plenty when I'm not around, lol), but I just felt odd. I watched my dad eat a greasy grilled sausage and I guess I was looking a little too hard because he stopped and informed me he had been eating it for almost 50 years now and he was okay.<br><br>
I mean, what do you even say to that argument? "I've been eating steaks for 50 years now and I'm fine." Is there even an argument to that? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Maybe the effects won't show up for another 20 years is what I wanted to tell him but I refrained. And the meat sure isn't what it used to be with all the hormones and antibiotics.<br><br>
I come from a serious meat-eating family. I worry about their health but don't want to come off as "holier than thou" or self-righteous.<br><br>
We had turkey, ham, beef, steaks, chicken, sausage, and fish. I think they made the squash side for me, lol.<br><br>
I also have two children who really really wanted that sausage and I felt bad not giving it to them, but I felt good at the same time.<br><br>
I just felt very much out of place and wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for listening to me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I feel your pain. My family are hardcore flesh eaters. They are having lamb for dinner tonight. Yes, lamb. As in those adorable, fluffy baby sheep. Apparently it is a traditional Easter dish.<br><br>
Both of my parents have diabetes. I know that switching to vegan diet would improve their diabetes, and maybe even reverse it. But they are so entrenched in their ways that they won't even consider it. It's very painful for me to know that they could be living healthier lives, possibly medication-free. Writing this actually brings tears to my eyes because I love my parents so much and I want them to be as healthy as I am.<br><br>
As for your children, try showing them movies like "Babe" and "Charlotte's Web". Children love animals and maybe once they learn that their sausage is actually a pig, they won't want to eat it anymore.
 

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I feel your pain. My family are hardcore flesh eaters. They are having lamb for dinner tonight. Yes, lamb. As in those adorable, fluffy baby sheep. Apparently it is a traditional Easter dish.<br><br>
Both of my parents have diabetes. I know that switching to vegan diet would improve their diabetes, and maybe even reverse it. But they are so entrenched in their ways that they won't even consider it. It's very painful for me to know that they could be living healthier lives, possibly medication-free. Writing this actually brings tears to my eyes because I love my parents so much and I want them to be as healthy as I am.<br><br>
As for your children, try showing them movies like "Babe" and "Charlotte's Web". Children love animals and maybe once they learn that their sausage is actually a pig, they won't want to eat it anymore.</div>
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Thank you very much. I am so glad you understand where I'm coming from. I don't think they are stupid or bad people for eating meat, (like I think they think I do), I am genuinely concerned and know that it would be better for them to not eat meat. My grandmother passed a few years back from colon, stomach, and pancreatic cancer. If there is something to learn from that, I refuse to miss it.<br><br>
I wish you the best in helping your parents. You never know when people will want to change!<br><br>
Thanks for the tip for the movies, I will try that!
 

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I like the movie idea.<br><br>
Also, consider bringing analogues like Tofurky sausages for your kids.
 

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I completely get where you're coming from. The last 'family' meal (well, meal with my extended family) was at an Ivars. Where literally, the only thing suitable for vegetarians is the fries. They thought they were being considerate taking us to a seafood restaurant. Le Sigh. It gets better though, and there are several children's books to explain why we don't eat animals, if you google vegetarian childrens books i'm sure you'll come up with several.
 

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Also, my dad went vegetarian at like... he's 52 now... so probably 48, 47 maybe for his health, so you may rub off on them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I like the movie idea.<br><br>
Also, consider bringing analogues like Tofurky sausages for your kids.</div>
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Thanks, even though my brothers will make fun of me relentlessly lol, I wll probably do this!<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I completely get where you're coming from. The last 'family' meal (well, meal with my extended family) was at an Ivars. Where literally, the only thing suitable for vegetarians is the fries. They thought they were being considerate taking us to a seafood restaurant. Le Sigh. It gets better though, and there are several children's books to explain why we don't eat animals, if you google vegetarian childrens books i'm sure you'll come up with several.</div>
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Thanks, I'm on Amazon right now looking for a book for my 6 year old. I want her to understand that it's not just "weird ol' Mommy" that doesn't eat meat.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Also, my dad went vegetarian at like... he's 52 now... so probably 48, 47 maybe for his health, so you may rub off on them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"></div>
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Hearing that makes me hopeful for my father. And to be honest, I would breathe a huge sigh of relief even for just a reduction of his meat intake. His plate today consisted of steak, sausage, chicken, and a roll. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:">
 

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Hearing that makes me hopeful for my father. And to be honest, I would breathe a huge sigh of relief even for just a reduction of his meat intake. His plate today consisted of steak, sausage, chicken, and a roll. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:"></div>
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Yea, my dad used to eat absolutely horrible, a pint of ice cream a night after a big KFC dinner and it was just awful. He says he's never felt better, and is so very happy he switched for both his health and conscience.
 

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My family are hardcore meat eaters to. For the most part they are okey with me being vegan, except for one of my brothers who can be very mean and has put me doen quite a bit for my veganism. Sometimes I snap back when he brings it up, sometimes I get upset, sometimes I don't even care, it all depends on my mood.<br>
I have accepted the fact that the dinnertable with my family is no place to talk about vegetarianism. They aren't interested.<br><br>
My mom is the person most open to vegetarianism, so I try to promote it a bit to her when we're alone. But I have made it sort of a rule that I don't talk much about veganism at the dinner table with omnis. There is a time and a place for everything and the dinner table is not the best place usually.<br><br>
I wish I had more veg friends. I kind of suffer through the holiday meals. It would be great to have a circle of vegan friends to get together with and not feel like the outsider for once.
 

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i just converted my mom to veganism. they'll pay attention when they start having health problems.<br><br>
just keep trying to learn. hang in there. if i'm going somewhere, i bring my own food, tell a little joke about my girlish figure, and no one raises an eyebrow. there's always a microwave. you're eating together to socialize. it's not really about meat, or milk, or eggs.
 

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My family are hardcore meat eaters to. For the most part they are okey with me being vegan, except for one of my brothers who can be very mean and has put me doen quite a bit for my veganism. Sometimes I snap back when he brings it up, sometimes I get upset, sometimes I don't even care, it all depends on my mood.<br>
I have accepted the fact that the dinnertable with my family is no place to talk about vegetarianism. They aren't interested.<br><br>
My mom is the person most open to vegetarianism, so I try to promote it a bit to her when we're alone. But I have made it sort of a rule that I don't talk much about veganism at the dinner table with omnis. There is a time and a place for everything and the dinner table is not the best place usually.<br><br>
I wish I had more veg friends. I kind of suffer through the holiday meals. It would be great to have a circle of vegan friends to get together with and not feel like the outsider for once.</div>
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I totally hear you. Brothers are awesome but they can be something else too, lol! And I understand about the circle of friends because I do not have ANY vegan friends nor do I even know any. I live in BBQ country. I feel your pain.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Yea, my dad used to eat absolutely horrible, a pint of ice cream a night after a big KFC dinner and it was just awful. He says he's never felt better, and is so very happy he switched for both his health and conscience.</div>
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Awesome! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I know this is a huge burden lifted off of your heart.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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i just converted my mom to veganism. they'll pay attention when they start having health problems.<br><br>
just keep trying to learn. hang in there. if i'm going somewhere, i bring my own food, tell a little joke about my girlish figure, and no one raises an eyebrow. there's always a microwave. you're eating together to socialize. it's not really about meat, or milk, or eggs.</div>
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I want them to pay attention before they start having health problems though. I know it's wishful thinking. *sigh*
 

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It sounds like you did well, holding your tongue. With family, sometimes you just have to hold your tongue, and pick your battles. I didn't even eat with my family today. My hubby took me to Ruby Tuesday's and I got the salad bar and the guac appetizer.....just better all the way around. I didn't have to be around the standard dinner, and he wanted a quiet one today.<br><br>
I understand your concern for their health completely. Hopefully like said, you can be an example, and bringing the fake stuff is ok!
 

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I want them to pay attention before they start having health problems though. I know it's wishful thinking. *sigh*</div>
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there's not a lot you can do except hope here. keep your habits exemplary, and be ready to convince. converting my mom is a *huge* coup for me. she's such a sweet and wonderful lady. i put her through hell when i was growing up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">. i finally convinced her that it's either this or sickness. it only cost me about a hundred bucks in books, etc. it really helps that i'm a nurse. i want her to really enjoy her retirement years in good health.<br><br>
i've seen more strokes and heart attacks and diabetics lose their feet and legs, that i couldn't possibly count them. if the government wasn't in bed with the food industry, it would make it much easier to promote healthly eating.
 

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there's not a lot you can do except hope here. keep your habits exemplary, and be ready to convince. converting my mom is a *huge* coup for me. she's such a sweet and wonderful lady. i put her through hell when i was growing up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">. i finally convinced her that it's either this or sickness. it only cost me about a hundred bucks in books, etc. it really helps that i'm a nurse. i want her to really enjoy her retirement years in good health.<br><br>
i've seen more strokes and heart attacks and diabetics lose their feet and legs, that i couldn't possibly count them. if the government wasn't in bed with the food industry, it would make it much easier to promote healthly eating.</div>
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I'm a dialysis nurse....I'm right there with you. the SAD is killing and harming people at too alarming of a rate!
 

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I understand what you mean completely. My family pride themselves on being healthy, and think that they are doing their kids a real favour by teaching them "good eating habits" but it just isn't true! They eat meat every meal, with maybe 1 or 2 vegie serves. I grew up very healthy as I decided to become vegatarian at age 12, and then became vegan at 14. I feel very happy now that I made this choice. My mum thinks nothing of attempting to give my kids multiple sausages when we are over, and I am always made to feel like a big stick in the mud. My kids are not vegatarian, but I still would never give them a disgusting sausage! When she cared for my 2 older kids when I gave birth to my 3rd, she rocked up at the hospital with a bacon and egg mcmuffin (with bacon removed) for me, and hotcakes and juice for the kids!<br><br>
At Easter, I give the kids fruit which they love, and they have never had chocolate. I am actually embarassed to admit this to other people because of the reactions I get.<br><br>
However, i make healthy choices and always have, and I do not feel as though the kids are missing out whatsoever. I know the joys a healthy life can bring, and I am glad that my family and I do not suffer the fatigue, lack of motivation etc that less healthy people suffer.
 

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It sounds like you did well, holding your tongue. With family, sometimes you just have to hold your tongue, and pick your battles. I didn't even eat with my family today. My hubby took me to Ruby Tuesday's and I got the salad bar and the guac appetizer.....just better all the way around. I didn't have to be around the standard dinner, and he wanted a quiet one today.<br><br>
I understand your concern for their health completely. Hopefully like said, you can be an example, and bringing the fake stuff is ok!</div>
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Thank you! Picking my battles, that sounds like good advice. :)<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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there's not a lot you can do except hope here. keep your habits exemplary, and be ready to convince. converting my mom is a *huge* coup for me. she's such a sweet and wonderful lady. i put her through hell when i was growing up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">. i finally convinced her that it's either this or sickness. it only cost me about a hundred bucks in books, etc. it really helps that i'm a nurse. i want her to really enjoy her retirement years in good health.<br><br>
i've seen more strokes and heart attacks and diabetics lose their feet and legs, that i couldn't possibly count them. if the government wasn't in bed with the food industry, it would make it much easier to promote healthly eating.</div>
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Yes they are all in bed together and it makes me sick. Our tax dollars are killing us, literally, lol.<br><br>
And I hear you. My Dad is the best man I know and I wasn't the best teenager either. I'm gonna get some books for him as well. We exchange books quite a bit so maybe he'll be open to that. Thanks! :- )<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I understand what you mean completely. My family pride themselves on being healthy, and think that they are doing their kids a real favour by teaching them "good eating habits" but it just isn't true! They eat meat every meal, with maybe 1 or 2 vegie serves. I grew up very healthy as I decided to become vegatarian at age 12, and then became vegan at 14. I feel very happy now that I made this choice. My mum thinks nothing of attempting to give my kids multiple sausages when we are over, and I am always made to feel like a big stick in the mud. My kids are not vegatarian, but I still would never give them a disgusting sausage! When she cared for my 2 older kids when I gave birth to my 3rd, she rocked up at the hospital with a bacon and egg mcmuffin (with bacon removed) for me, and hotcakes and juice for the kids!<br><br>
At Easter, I give the kids fruit which they love, and they have never had chocolate. I am actually embarassed to admit this to other people because of the reactions I get.<br><br>
However, i make healthy choices and always have, and I do not feel as though the kids are missing out whatsoever. I know the joys a healthy life can bring, and I am glad that my family and I do not suffer the fatigue, lack of motivation etc that less healthy people suffer.</div>
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I feel like my family makes me out to be a big stick in the mud as well. It's crazy huh?
 

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I totally hear you on that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
My family is generally pretty supportive, but when I try to argue that eating meat is not required, or even good for us, they completely block me out. It's like I can literally see the veil dropping in front of their eyes and they zone out what I say.<br><br>
They don't really understand veganism, though they're trying their best to be supportive of my lifestyle. My mom thinks I'm overreacting when I don't want to touch or be near something that came from an animal and she got a little annoyed when I didn't want to make my special brownies for my brother's birthday (I refuse to make a brownie with eggs in it... A VEGAN brownie on the other hand!)
 
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