[AdamLayish]

So I watched this movie called Fat Head. It is a documentary that basically says Super Size Me was wrong, veg*ns are idiots, America is not fat, and saturated and fast food are good for you. They used like 5 doctors as their sources who agreed with the maniac that made the movie. It was kinda funny to be honest, but that is the only positive thing I can say about it. However, I still do recommend watching it, so you can see how wrong these people are. If you have netflix you can watch it free.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Fa...637#height1716

 

[sequoia]

Yeah, I've heard about this. My only hope is that it does not become as popular as "Supersize Me" and that people watch docs like "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" or "Forks Over Knives" instead.

 

[Eonblue462]

I watched about 20 minutes of it. Anymore, and I would of thrown a wrench in my monitor. The concept itself was just so ridiculously stupid.

 

[peace]

America's not fat, it's just big boned.

 

[Scorpius]

I watched about an hour of it and it was so full of lies and half-truths it was almost laughable.

Not to mention that its POINTLESS proving that eating 1,500kcal a day of anything will make you loose weight if you're a 200 pound dude.

That being said, "Supersize Me" was also an exercise in silliness as well.

 

[sequoia]

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

That being said, "Supersize Me" was also an exercise in silliness as well.

Word.

I have issues with "Food, Inc" too.

 

[AdamLayish]

What was wrong with Super Size Me?

 

[sequoia]

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Originally Posted by AdamLayish

What was wrong with Super Size Me?

The whole thing was just silly. Everyone knows that fast food is horrible for you and makes you fat. No one needed a movie to be made about it.

 

[Scorpius]

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Originally Posted by sequoia

Word.

I have issues with "Food, Inc" too.

I'd rather read Fast Food Nation any day. Its much more informative and much more TRUE! (I found the book to be very well researched)

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Originally Posted by sequoia

The whole thing was just silly. Everyone knows that fast food is horrible for you and makes you fat. No one needed a movie to be made about it.

That and I don't need to see a guy stuffing his face with meat and puke it all up as part of a 'documentary'.
I honestly don't understand how that thing won film awards.

 

[ElaineV]

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Originally Posted by sequoia

The whole thing was just silly. Everyone knows that fast food is horrible for you and makes you fat. No one needed a movie to be made about it.

Actually, no, not everyone knows that. But the belief that everyone knows that made for a defense for McDonald's when in 2002 a couple of obese McDonald's-eating teens sued them for deceptively selling dangerous food. By this rationale, cigarette packages need not contain any warnings nor bottles of alcohol, because "everyone knows they're dangerous."

SuperSize Me came out in 2004. It seemed to come on the heels of the lawsuit in order to prove that eating McDonald's on a regular basis was dangerous. And to prove that it's far more dangerous than most people expect it to be.

Wikipedia agrees with me:
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The reason for Spurlock's investigation was the increasing spread of obesity throughout U.S. society, which the Surgeon General has declared "epidemic," and the corresponding lawsuit brought against McDonald's on behalf of two overweight girls, who, it was alleged, became obese as a result of eating McDonald's food [Pelman v. McDonald's Corp., 237 F. Supp. 2d 512]. Spurlock points out that although the lawsuit against McDonald's failed (and subsequently many state legislatures have legislated against product liability actions against producers and distributors of "fast food"), much of the same criticism leveled against the tobacco companies applies to fast food franchises whose product is both physiologically addictive and physically harmful.

 

[sequoia]

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Originally Posted by ElaineV

Actually, no, not everyone knows that. But the belief that everyone knows that made for a defense for McDonald's when in 2002 a couple of obese McDonald's-eating teens sued them for deceptively selling dangerous food. By this rationale, cigarette packages need not contain any warnings nor bottles of alcohol, because "everyone knows they're dangerous."

SuperSize Me came out in 2004. It seemed to come on the heels of the lawsuit in order to prove that eating McDonald's on a regular basis was dangerous. And to prove that it's far more dangerous than most people expect it to be.

Wikipedia agrees with me:

I don't buy for one minute that they didn't know it was bad for them. THEY WERE OBESE. Obesity doesn't happen overnight. Connect the dots, if you are getting fat eating what you are eating, then it isn't good for you.

 

[Scorpius]

I think a few people here would agree with me that the people who sued McDonald's for 'making' them obese was yet ANOTHER exercise in silliness.

In a country where your insurance company won't cover medications and treatments if they are deemed to be due to a 'pre-existing condition', we can sue people selling Big Macs because they make you fat. (This makes me wonder if obesity would be considered a 'pre-existing condition' or not...."Hey! I've been fat since I was 8! Its sure as hell was pre-existing!")

Does anyone else see the disconnect here??

 

[sequoia]

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

I think a few people here would agree with me that the people who sued McDonald's for 'making' them obese was yet ANOTHER exercise in silliness.

In a country where your insurance company won't cover medications and treatments if they are deemed to be due to a 'pre-existing condition', we can sue people selling Big Macs because they make you fat. (This makes me wonder if obesity would be considered a 'pre-existing condition' or not...."Hey! I've been fat since I was 8! Its sure as hell was pre-existing!")

Does anyone else see the disconnect here??

Yep.

 

[Josh James xVx]

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Originally Posted by sequoia

I don't buy for one minute that they didn't know it was bad for them. THEY WERE OBESE. Obesity doesn't happen overnight. Connect the dots, if you are getting fat eating what you are eating, then it isn't good for you.

I got fat on vegan food that would have been perfectly healthy for me if I'd eaten in smaller portions.

Your mouth is doing that thing again I don't like where it's wrong a lot. You should do that less.

 

[sequoia]

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Originally Posted by Josh James xVx

I got fat on vegan food that would have been perfectly healthy for me if I'd eaten in smaller portions.

Your mouth is doing that thing again I don't like where it's wrong a lot. You should do that less.

I don't think anyone would consider processed vegan food "healthy", and it's pretty damn hard to get fat eating fruits, veggies, whole grains, and legumes.

My mouth is being wrong, eh? Gee, I wish that made sense.

Your brain is doing that thing that I don't like where it isn't thinking.

 

[Lovemyarchnug]

The one thing that got me thinking about the documentary was the idea about the cholesterol. I haven't taken the time to look that much into it...but do we really need saturated fats? And how much? I know that the whole low fat deal is not a good thing...but shouldn't nuts, avacados, and things of the such have enough healthy fats in them? And with the glycemic index...do ALL breads and such spike your blood sugar? Sorry if I'm sounding ignorant but I just want to know people's thoughts on it and what they had to say about it.

 

[Shauna_m]

I watched this movie because my bf's dad said we should. Uhhh.... my head nearly exploded.

I did make it through the WHOLE thing though. My favorite theory from the whole thing? ...that since we've been recommended to eat a low-fat diet full of whole grains for 30+ years and america just keeps getting fatter and unhealthier, the recommendations must be wrong. Ok. Except what % of the population ACTUALLY followed those recommendations!? Probably less than 10%. Most people I know eat a standard american diet full of meat, sugar, fast food, and refined grains.

The worst part? My bf is now eating a low-carb, high-protein diet. For a week now I've been helping the best I can so he doesn't make himself sick. I've been impressing on him the importance of fruits and veggies for his carbs, since he's down to eating almost zero grains. I've been helping him prepare meat (ick!). He's lost 2 lbs already, but that's no surprise since he's overweight and ANY time you cut out something bad like refined grains, you will lose weight. But he was having problems with his blood sugar crashing all the time and that went away overnight, although I suspect it would have anyway, just from cutting out the "bad" carbs and keeping the whole grains. Anyway, pain in the ass. I mean, if the diet works for him, great....but I'd rather him just eat my vegan food.

 

[Shauna_m]

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Originally Posted by Lovemyarchnug

The one thing that got me thinking about the documentary was the idea about the cholesterol. I haven't taken the time to look that much into it...but do we really need saturated fats? And how much? I know that the whole low fat deal is not a good thing...but shouldn't nuts, avacados, and things of the such have enough healthy fats in them? And with the glycemic index...do ALL breads and such spike your blood sugar? Sorry if I'm sounding ignorant but I just want to know people's thoughts on it and what they had to say about it.

From what I've read (and it isn't much, but I trust what I've read), you can classify foods into three categories....low glycemic index, moderate glycemic index, and high glycemic index. Low foods are most veggies, meat and dairy, ect. Moderate is most whole grains, fruit and some starchier veggies, and high would be sugar, white potatoes, corn, refined grains, ect. A piece of WHOLE GRAIN bread would not raise and drop your blood sugar in the same manner as a piece of white bread would. Brown rice wouldn't like white rice does. It's still higher than say, spinach or carrots, but it's not like eating a candy bar! The guy in the movie made it sound like eating lentils or wheat chex would be like eating tablespoons of sugar. But he's an idiot.

 

[andrealeeanne]

I watched this movie for about 10 minutes and that was all I could handle. So much theatrical pandering to people who are already certain their opinions are right (which I guess I am, based on my analysis of the film). Food Inc is what made me commit to going veg, but not in the way they meant to. The scene where they're slaughtering chickens in the open air, by flipping them upside down and slitting their throats? And the audience is fed lines about "this is how it's supposed to be"? I had to pause the movie and sob for half an hour. Seeing the best possible option of killing showed be that there is no good or humane way to kill.

 

[Lovemyarchnug]

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Originally Posted by Shauna_m

From what I've read (and it isn't much, but I trust what I've read), you can classify foods into three categories....low glycemic index, moderate glycemic index, and high glycemic index. Low foods are most veggies, meat and dairy, ect. Moderate is most whole grains, fruit and some starchier veggies, and high would be sugar, white potatoes, corn, refined grains, ect. A piece of WHOLE GRAIN bread would not raise and drop your blood sugar in the same manner as a piece of white bread would. Brown rice wouldn't like white rice does. It's still higher than say, spinach or carrots, but it's not like eating a candy bar! The guy in the movie made it sound like eating lentils or wheat chex would be like eating tablespoons of sugar. But he's an idiot.

That's what I kinda thought. I know you shouldn't load up on carbs from breads and potatoes especially when you're getting it from veggies but it was hard for me to believe that ALL grains are bad?? I feel like no matter how you eat there will always be someone with some type of proof that it's bad. That's why in the end I'd rather just choose to eat cruelty free