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well, here in the UK Burger King's onion rings are vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:">
 

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I think most non-Burger King one's are Vegan, but don't quote me on that. I'm sure you could ask what they're cooked in/if there's any "natural flavor" in the batter. (In the US that's what kills the Burger Kings ones.) I'm still a newbie to onion rings. I had my first one a few weeks ago at a local dinner.
 

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i hate getting anything fried from places that have fried meats because they sometimes throw in meat in the fryer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> sucks too b/c i love wendy's french fries
 

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For some reason I always assumed there would be egg in the batter around the onion rings? Don't know though...off to look it up
 

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Okay, here's the ingredient list of Burger King's onion rings. Looks vegan, they even specify that all natural flavors are from plant sources:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Rehydrated Onion, Bleached Wheat Flour, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Water, Yellow Corn Flour, Sugar. Contains 2% or less of each of the following: Gelatinized Wheat Starch, Corn Starch, Calcium Chloride, Modified Food Starch, Methyl Cellulose, Salt, Fructose, Guar Gum, Sodium Alginate, Dextrose, Yeast, Sodium Bicarbonate, Glucano Delta Lactone, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate, Partially Hydrogenated Cottonseed Oil, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Grill Flavor, Garlic Powder, Hydroxypropyl Methyl Cellulose, Sorbitol. Natural flavors from plant sources. Contains: Wheat.</div>
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well, here in the UK Burger King's onion rings are vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:"></div>
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ooh, that's good to know <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:"><br><br><br><br>
although now I am craving burger king, which can't be good for me. I might go out and get some later.
 

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Okay, here's the ingredient list of Burger King's onion rings. Looks vegan, they even specify that all natural flavors are from plant sources:
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Rehydrated Onion, Bleached Wheat Flour, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Water, Yellow Corn Flour, Sugar. Contains 2% or less of each of the following: Gelatinized Wheat Starch, Corn Starch, Calcium Chloride, Modified Food Starch, Methyl Cellulose, Salt, Fructose, Guar Gum, Sodium Alginate, Dextrose, Yeast, Sodium Bicarbonate, Glucano Delta Lactone, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate, Partially Hydrogenated Cottonseed Oil, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Grill Flavor, Garlic Powder, Hydroxypropyl Methyl Cellulose, Sorbitol. Natural flavors from plant sources. Contains: Wheat.</div>
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I didn't know they got rid of the whey. That's great.
 

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What about "Gelatinized wheat starch"? Does that mean gelatine is involved?<br><br><br><br>
I have to admit, even if they were vegan, seeing that long list of ingredients with all the hydrogenated oils and chemicals isn't exactly appetizing...
 

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Glucono delta-lactone (GDL)<br><br><br><br>
was petitioned to be added to the National List as a tofu coagulant. It is<br><br>
produced by the oxidation of gluconic acid by a number of various methods. In addition to coagulation, GDL<br><br>
is used as an acidulant, leavening agent, and sequestrant. The NOSB was petitioned for this substance in 1995,<br><br>
and declined to refer it to the Technical Advisory Panel. The reviewers all considered it possible to make GDL<br><br>
from non-synthetic sources, although one considered certain sources and processes synthetic. All considered it<br><br>
to be non-agricultural. Two recommended that it be added to the National List with an annotation; one<br><br>
recommended that it remain off the National List. All three recommended that it be allowed for use in a made<br><br>
with organic (specified ingredients) claim. Of these, two supported with annotations, and one recommended no<br><br>
annotations for this use. Further investigation may be required to determine if sources are produced by the use<br><br>
of genetic engineering.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
How Made:<br><br>
Glucono delta-lactone is prepared by direct crystallization from the aqueous solution of gluconic acid. Gluconic acid for<br><br>
food use in the US may be produced in any of three different ways (FDA, 21CFR184.1318):<br><br>
1. by the oxidation of D-glucose with bromine water;<br><br>
2. by the oxidation of D-glucose by microorganisms that are nonpathogenic and nontoxicogenic to man or<br><br>
other animals; or<br><br>
3. by the oxidation of D-glucose with enzymes derived from these microorganisms.<br><br>
Gluconic acid is customarily produced by fermentation using Aspergillus niger. The genes for glucose oxidase and catalase<br><br>
from A. niger have been isolated. Gluconic acid production can be improved with the use of cloned genes, and alternative<br><br>
economical host systems can be developed. (Nagarajan, 1992). Glucose oxidase-catalyzed oxidation of D-glucose is a<br><br>
method used in the commercial production of glucono delta-lactone (BeMiller, 1992).<br><br>
Specific Uses:<br><br>
Glucono delta-lactone is allowed for use in human food as a curing and pickling agent, a leavening agent, a pH control<br><br>
agent, and a sequestrant [21CFR184.1318]. The Merck Index cites use as a coagulant for tofu (Budavari, 1996). The TAP<br><br>
review will focus on use as a tofu coagulant, as per the petitions example, but other uses will be discussed to illustrate<br><br>
some specific functions and other characteristics of the material relative to the OFPA and NOSB criteria. Other uses in<br><br>
food processing include: acid (acidulant), leavening agent; and sequestrant (Food Chemicals Codex, 1996). Glucono deltalactone<br><br>
may be employed as a chemical leavening agent, and has been used for instant bread that needs no proofing.<br><br>
Glucono delta-lactone is an inner ester of gluconic acid. In a water solution, GDL slowly hydrates to become acidic and<br><br>
thus acts as a leavening acid. Hydrolysis is slow in the cold but is accelerated by heat, making GDL ideal for refrigerated<br><br>
or frozen dough products. GDLs cost makes its use prohibitive in most baked goods, except in some refrigerated or<br><br>
frozen dough formulations (Chung, 1992).
 

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It's weird going on google and looking at all of the ingrediants of franchised fast food places.<br><br><br><br>
Like I didn't know that McDonalds fries weren't vegan! Who puts Milk in their fries?<br><br><br><br>
French Fries:<br><br>
Potatoes, vegetable oil (partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor (wheat and milk derivatives)*, citric acid (preservative), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), dimethylpolysiloxane (antifoaming agent)), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil ((may contain one of the following: Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, partially hydrogenated corn oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness), dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent). *CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK (Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients.)<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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It's weird going on google and looking at all of the ingrediants of franchised fast food places.<br><br><br><br>
Like I didn't know that McDonalds fries weren't vegan! Who puts Milk in their fries?<br></div>
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Did you notice the beef? They're not even vegetarian. Milk's weird, but beef is even more strange, in my opinion.
 

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Now see, I'd think beef makes some sense, from a omni culinary perspective. You know, steak and potatoes and all that crap. Milk, I think is weird (BK had it in their fries for awhile too, years ago).<br><br><br><br>
Gelatinized wheat starch is fine, btw.<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Is the ingredient known as pre-gelatinized wheat starch vegetarian?<br><br><br><br>
According to A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives: " When starch and water are heated the starch molecules burst and form a gelatin."<br><br><br><br>
According to The Dictionary of Food Ingredients it is a starch that has been created by swelling wheat in cold water. It is also known as gelatinized wheat starch.<br><br><br><br>
According to Food Chemistry: "Pregelatinized flour is made from ground cereals....and is sometimes blended with guar flour or alginates."<br><br><br><br>
It appears to be a completely vegetarian product.</div>
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I was googling pre-gelantinized corn-starch just now and luckly found this thread.<br><br>
I bought some Chung's All Natural Vegetable Spring Rolls that are vegan, but wasnt sure about the sweet & sour sauce. I am assuming that ingredient is vegan also if the gelantinized wheat starch is. Hopefully I am correct because I am eating them right now...
 

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Any item served from a restaurant that also prepares meat, especially fried items, has a HIGH HIGH HIGH probability of cross contamination.<br><br><br><br>
They use the same scoop to get the chicken nuggets that they use to get the fries or onion rings or anything else.<br><br><br><br>
That's why if someone orders chicken nuggets they'll often get a few fries thrown into the container as well on accident, or if someone orders onion rings they get a fry or two.<br><br><br><br>
As vegans, it's always a good idea to not make the fast food industry profit. The more money they make, the more meat they'll buy. Also, we shouldn't reward places for having vegetarian or vegan options... I laughed when BK introduced a veggie burger. It's like Hummer offering a hybrid that gets 15MPG.
 

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Any item served from a restaurant that also prepares meat, especially fried items, has a HIGH HIGH HIGH probability of cross contamination.<br><br><br><br>
They use the same scoop to get the chicken nuggets that they use to get the fries or onion rings or anything else.<br><br><br><br>
That's why if someone orders chicken nuggets they'll often get a few fries thrown into the container as well on accident, or if someone orders onion rings they get a fry or two.<br><br><br><br>
As vegans, it's always a good idea to not make the fast food industry profit. The more money they make, the more meat they'll buy. Also, we shouldn't reward places for having vegetarian or vegan options... I laughed when BK introduced a veggie burger. It's like Hummer offering a hybrid that gets 15MPG.</div>
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Not buying veggie burgers there isnt going to stop them from buying meat; at most they would stop offering the veg burger.<br><br>
You have a good point though. I do think those fast food monsters should be shut down for lots of good reasons. Yet, I am glad they at least offer more than a few lettuce leaves for transitioning omnis to vegetarians. I think the veg option makes more awareness to the employees there and the burger eating customers. Before I went vegan I use to buy those and I remember a few new employees not know what a "veggie burger" was!??...didnt even know their own menu!
 

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BK onion rings are cooked in the same vat as the chicken and hash browns. their fries are cooked separately.... i dunno about that scoop thing tho! ugh!<br><br><br><br>
as for the milk product in fries... it is used to create more of a "crust" on the outside of the fry when cooked. it makes em crispy.<br><br>
however years ago, bk made a new formula for their fries, adding more whey to em, and they were much crisper, and the public didnt like them, so they took that formula off their menu ASAP.
 

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I was googling pre-gelantinized corn-starch just now and luckly found this thread.<br><br>
I bought some Chung's All Natural Vegetable Spring Rolls that are vegan, but wasnt sure about the sweet & sour sauce. I am assuming that ingredient is vegan also if the gelantinized wheat starch is. Hopefully I am correct because I am eating them right now...</div>
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yup, you're safe!
 

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As vegans, it's always a good idea to not make the fast food industry profit. The more money they make, the more meat they'll buy. Also, we shouldn't reward places for having vegetarian or vegan options... I laughed when BK introduced a veggie burger. It's like Hummer offering a hybrid that gets 15MPG.</div>
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That attitude is sure to make veganism really catch right on!
 

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<div class="quote-block">As vegans, it's always a good idea to not make the fast food industry profit. The more money they make, the more meat they'll buy. Also, we shouldn't reward places for having vegetarian or vegan options... I laughed when BK introduced a veggie burger. It's like Hummer offering a hybrid that gets 15MPG.</div>
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The only way we're going to avoid the "evil corperations" is to live naked in the forests. That's our only option for a truely corperate-free exisitence. We should be happy that they at least bother making a veggie burger, At least they give a couple options other than "would you like meat, Meat or more meat? We have to learn to co-exist with them. They aren't just going to go away. I'd rather them give omnis something non-meat to eat if they choose, Than them be forced to buy flesh when they go there. Plus if they stop offering the veggie burgers a lot of omnis will be turned off from the idea of vegetarianism because it will seem hard and like they can't be "normal".
 
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