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I've had 6 cats for 5 years now, and I love them to death, so I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about cats (I've even taught them tricks).<br><br><br><br>
However, recently a problem has come up that I'm having problems finding a solution to. One of the cats (I'm 98% sure which one it is, but it's possible she's not the only one, but I doubt it) has taken a liking to urinating in the hallway rather than the litterbox.<br><br><br><br>
I think she developed this habit from my occassional laziness in cleaning the litter - whenever it would get too dirty she would piss on the floor to teach me a lesson, which is fair enough as far as I'm concerned.<br><br><br><br>
However, now she's doing it all the time, clean litter or not. I just changed the litter yesterday and I wake up today and there's two fresh spots in the hallway. Not cool.<br><br><br><br>
I've considered putting foil down in the hallway - cats dislike the feel of foil so they won't walk on it, but I'm afraid she'll just find another spot to do it, like on my bed or something.<br><br><br><br>
I've RARELY caught her in the act, and when I have, it's easy to deal with - yell at her and put her in the litterbox till she goes. But she can't be caught in the act when I'm asleep or at work.<br><br><br><br>
Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!
 

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Mera'din, I once had a cat do that and brought him to the vet. That particular cat had a Urinary Tract Infection. I suggest you ask you vet to be certain.
 

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when i started peeing in the hall, my mom worried too.<br><br><br><br>
we're talking about cats though, aren't we? right...my first cat would pee in the dining room behind a plant pretty often...he was just marking his territory- didnt have any uti or anything...sometimes they do it when they are mad (the uncleaned kitty litter might aggravate the little guy, like you said) or perturbed. how old is the cat that you think is doing it? you said you've had all of them for a while, but maybe for some reason that one is feeling left out or something...i'd say inquire within at the vet and see what's up. there is some stuff you can put on the area where he normally pees that'll deter him from peeing there...of course i forget what it is now...good luck!
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Robert</i><br><br><b>Mera'din, I once had a cat do that and brought him to the vet. That particular cat had a Urinary Tract Infection. I suggest you ask you vet to be certain.</b></div>
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Is there a way to try and verify if there is a urinary tract infection without taking her to the vet? I don't have a lot of money so I'd hate to take her to the vet to find our it's not a medical problem.
 

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they would probably run a urinalysis..so i think your best bet would to be to bring her, just in case...and jsut in case its not something worse too, like kidney or bladder stones. IF that is the case (which it probably isn't - but my cat did have them as well as one of my dogs) you want to find out sooner than later.<br><br><br><br>
if you want, just fill up a litter box with that styrofoam packaging stuff (not a lot) and see if you can get the suspected cat to pee in there...that way you can get the pee easily and just put it in a container and tell the vet the deal..then you dont have to pay for dayboarding or something. they'll run the urine, which ins't that pricey...and tell you what's up.
 

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After you see if that there's nothing wrong healthwise with your cat....clean up the "pee area" with something really good like Nature's Miracle. THEN.....spray the heck out of it with a citrus air freshener...preferrably one from a health store (they tend to actually smell like oranges). I remember reading once that you should never clean the litter box with something that smells like citrus because cats will NOT go there if they smell it. So, I put 2 and 2 together and decided to spray the off limit areas with orange spray. It worked. Of course, now you have to clean the litter box daily...or your cat may find other places to go. Some cats are just very hygienic, and can't stand a dirty litter box. Also...you're supposed to have one litter box for each cat. LOL. I'm just trying to imagine you with 6 litter boxes. But, you should at least have as many as possible. I'm very serious about it. Oh! and make sure you spray the "pee area" with that citrus spray EVERY DAY.<br><br>
Other health problems that it might be besides a UTI....Parasitic worms....or Giardia....or impacted anal glands....or tumors.<br><br>
Other things to consider...has the litter been changed to a different kind? Have you moved recently? Has someone new movied in (human or otherwise)? Has someone moved out? Is there work being done to the house? Has there been new furniture added? Do you spend the same amount of time with your cat? Is there much arguing in the house? Do you use a plastic liner in the litter box? Is the litter box in a private place? Those are a just a few things you want to eliminate as possible causes (if it's not medical). Also, it might help if you feed your cat treats and play with her on the "pee area". Even feed her meals there. Cats usually don't want to "go" where they eat and play.<br><br>
One more thing, and I'll go......the times that you've caught her in the act and put her in the litter box...does she try to run from the litter box during this? She might begin to associate the litter box with negative feelings if she doesn't enjoy the experience of using it. Maybe next time, after you've caught her and yelled at her...wait 5 minutes and then redirect her to the litter box. As the last little dribbles of urine are coming out...praise her and make her feel really good about it. Then give her lots of treats, catnip, and play with her. Am I being too graphic? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> j/<br><br>
If you're interested, I could give you the name of a great cat behaviourism book.
 

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If would recommend having your cat checked out by a vet, but if you don't have the money, it may not be necessary to check for a urinary tract infection, as usually a cat with UTI will urinate all over the house. With UTI it's not a matter of behavior, but just the cat being unable to control its urine, so it won't go in the same place. If you are unsuccessful trying to retrain your cat to use the box, however, you might have her checked out just incase. I think there are pellets you can buy that you put in the litter box and will change color if the cat has UTI, but it will be difficult to tell which cat it is if you have six cats using the same box. I don't know much about these pellets, you might ask your vet if he sells them or knows where you can buy them. They're useful to put in your box every now and then because they can check for other problems as well and let you know everyone's healthy.<br><br><br><br>
The fact that you have so many cats in the same house may have led your cat to pee in the hallway because it felt territorial. Cats will have behavioral problems if there are too many cats in too small a space. I don't know how long you have had that many cats, and if they've shown any other signs of being stressed by overpopulation, but you might consider that. How many litter boxes do you have in your house? If you have six cats you should have at least three boxes. It will help keep the boxes cleaner if you don't clean them very regularly (which can definitely lead them to urinate outside the box) and reduce territorial problems. Also, changing the brand or type of litter or moving the box can confuse cats so that they'll urinate in hallways.<br><br><br><br>
Once the cat has peed once, he'll continue to pee in the same place because he'll smell his urine there. You need to purchase a cleaner specifically designed to neturalize animal smells such as urine or blood, that way the cat won't smell the urine and go again in the same place. This will help deal with the physical urge to urinate in the hallway, but your cat probably also has a psychological urge to pee their now because he's been doing it so long. To cure that, put a litter box on top of the spot he pees in and make sure he knows it's there. He should start urinating in the box instead of on the floor. Gradually move the box back to its original spot, slow enough so that he won't notice very much. That will hopefully get rid of the pschological habit of peeing in the hallway.<br><br><br><br>
If you just can't break the habit, you might just try to put a piece of furniture on top of the spot or keep the cat from going in the hallway with a baby gate, not very good solutions but better than having to get rid of the cat altogether.<br><br><br><br>
Hope that helps, you can probably find more info online if you do a search for cat behavior. One thing I'm not sure if is if this cat is still using the box, just peeing in the hallway as well. If he isn't using the box at all, there are different solutions to get him using one again. I'll explain if anyone's interested.
 

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Hmm, lotsa good info guys, thanks!<br><br><br><br>
To answer some questions, here's the deal... I took in a stray 5 years ago (she's the one who I suspect is the culprit) and she turned out to be pregnant. I kept all 5 kittens, so now I have 6 cats.<br><br><br><br>
They're all from the same litter and they're all fixed, so there's never been territorial issues at all. The culprit doesn't get much attention, but she never seems to WANT much attention. She's real uppity and usually just seems to want to be left alone. I suppose that maybe she really does want attention and this is her way of fighting back - but I dunno.<br><br><br><br>
I'm not sure since, like I said, she started doing it only when I would let the litter get dirty. I took it as a signal that I needed to get off my lazy ass and clean the box. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Now, though, she does it no matter what, and that's what has me worried. She started doing it in the bedroom on any clothes that'd be laying on the floor, so I thought I could curb it by keeping all clothes off the floor - that's when she started doing it in the hallway - and it's always in the exact same two spots in the hallway.<br><br><br><br>
I've been using the same litter for the past 1 1/2 years, we moved into this apartment last July, there's no new humans or animals in the house, no one's moved out, no work being done, I spend the same amouint of time with her as I have been for a long time now (which isn't much, cuz like I said, she's always been real aloof and stuff).<br><br><br><br>
I'm also worried that if I just do something to stop the peeing on the one spot she'll just find a new spot - possibly somewhere worse, like on my pillows or something.<br><br><br><br>
I think I will try cleaning the hallway thoroughly then giving them all catnip in there (someone suggested they don't like to pee where they play). I also think the suggestion to put a litter box on the spot and see if that gets her to pee in it might work.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the tips, guys!
 

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It sounds to me like it started out as her protesting the dirty litter and has evolved into a bad habit. Do the thing I told you about putting the box on the spot and clean the area thoroughly, and then make sure you always keep the box clean after that to prevent her from starting the habit up again.
 

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You might not have to put the litter box on the pee spot if the orange spray works. Also, she might just end up peeing next to the litter box in the hallway instead of in it. It is a good idea though if the orange spray doesn't work. But as everyone's said...rule out medical reasons first. I have a cat that liked to pee on our bed of all places!! Turns out she has tumors. The vet is a big dork and has done nothing for the tumors (they are benign), leaving me to find natural solutions to rid her of them. We don't have any decent vets in the area, so natural solutions are my forte'. The orange spray has worked like a charm in the meantime. Also, we have 3 litterboxes and clean them daily. We also completely dump the litter and replace it with new litter on a weekly basis. That helps a lot although I imagine that would get expensive for you!<br><br>
If you want an incredible book on cat behaviorism and how to solve cat problems..it's called "Cats on the Counter" by Larry Lachman M.S., M.A.
 

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It wasn't to teach you a leason it is just because some Cats hate a dirty box and will not use it, as well as the fact that some cats don't like to share a litter box. If you don't want her to go to the same spot (which she will if you don't remove her sent ) Use something like OUT you can get even this at Walmart.This should stop her from going to this spot anymore.
 

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I agree that you first need to rule out medical problems. Sometimes cats with urinary problems will continue to pee in a different place, but the same place every time. If the cat does have a problem, like urinary crystals, that you ignore, its going to cost a lot more to treat it when the cat has a urinary blockage than when its just peeing inappropriately.<br><br>
Do you just have the one litter box? You're supposed to have one more litter box than you have cats to keep the cat folk happy. I have six boxes and four cats and they're scooped once daily and we seem to get along alright. I can't imagine if they were all going in the same box tho :-\\<br><br>
You also should put a box on the spot he's peeing, wherever it is. You can gradually inch it to a more convenient location, but in the meantime, its better than peeing on the floor.
 

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Thanks epski! I hate when old threads get bumped and I read the whole entire thing without noticing the dates.
 
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