[jjba]

My mum came home from shopping today with a mug for me that has "everyone is entitled to my opinion" written on it, and was like "because of the amount you talk about veganism". I don't know whether I should find this funny or be insulted, I kind of feel both. How would you react?

 

[Beautiful Joe]

I'd laugh.

 

[Purp]

I'd laugh, too.

 

[Auxin]

I want to buy that mug for my sister

 

[LedBoots]

I want to buy that mug for my sister

My daughter lmao

 

[Tom]

HEY!!! That's my whole family's motto, I think... except maybe for my youngest sister. (Unless you get her going on certain things.)

 

[Thalassa4]

Apparently it's your mother's motto, ironically.

 

[Spudulika]

Apparently it's your mother's motto, ironically.

Yeh, maybe you should say to her: "Thanks Mum, but are you sure you didn't really buy this for yourself?"

 

[EarthGodess]

Don't you think a sentient beings right to live is more important, jjba's mum?! If she watches earthlings or meet your meat, she should understand that being non vegan isn't just an 'opinion', it's a matter of life and deaf, and if you think that's extreme, that's worse than those racist people who judge people by how they look.

 

[EarthGodess]

Talking to your mum, not you

 

[jelly]

Even I would just laugh !!

 

[Dilettante]

I think the most effective counterargument to this type of "everyone should believe and do what they want" argument is that it would be true if one's actions didn't affect other sentient beings, but that's not the case when it comes to food that contains animal ingredients. Personally, I'm not one to believe that non-human animals should be given as many rights as humans are given (I'm sure some on here would disagree), but I do believe that they should be given some rights, including the right not to be forcibly bred, raised in captivity, and in many cases effectively tortured, and slaughtered, just to produce food that's unnecessary in the food supply. So, that's how I'd approach an argument with someone who was using the meme that "hey, diet is all just a matter of personal choice." Namely, I'd point out there is another being involved, which may not be as intelligent as humans are, but is still sentient and capable of suffering, so that the "personal choice' concept is inapplicable.

On the other hand, I'd make the point that this is what I believe regarding the use of animals, but I wouldn't keep talking about it, nor would I mention it at dinner, because doing so doesn't change people's minds. That's how I deal with it with people in my own life.

 

[leedsveg]

Good post Dilettante. :up:

 

[tpkyteroo luebeck]

I can see how laughing it off would take the sting out of her passive-aggressive approach. Sometimes we just have to stay as healthy as we can be and just wait for them to hit rock bottom. Some people just are not going to change, no matter what. Those people we just have to learn to accept as they are.

 

[Jek the Immortal]

Oh god, this kind of s.t pisses me off.