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Does anyone have one of the new hybrid electric cars from Honda or Toyota? (Specifically the Honda Civic) Do you know of anyone who has one? What are your/their opions of it?<br><br><br><br>
I know there are special brands out east and west that are only electric but we can't get those in Michigan. I'm thinking about getting a Honda but have to do my market research first. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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I don't see why anyone would want a hybrid car.<br><br><br><br>
An cool, clean electric car would be easier to maintain than a greasy, hot, internal combustion engine, but they suck as cars and produce more air pollution and more impact on the environment, than internal combustion engine-powered cars.
 

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this probably isn't helpful at all....<br><br><br><br>
i met someone once who had a toyota prius, a friend of a friend. it was really cool... after it started and charged up, it didn't make any noise at all! he had only had it a few months at the time i met him, and was loving it. excellent gas mileage of course... i heard from my friend that this guy is still very happy with it and hasn't had any problems at all, and he's had it almost a year and a half now.<br><br><br><br>
and i've seen a honda civic hybrid in the parking lot at work, but i have no idea whose car it is. (it's a big office building). the honda looks cooler than the prius, though...
 

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Well excuuuuuuuuuse me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Anyone else have any more, ehm, constructive opinions? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Aesuan, I think we posted at the very same moment! I appreciate your observations. I also think the Civic looks better. I would go with the Prius except for I think that one only seats 2, not practical for our family of 3.
 

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I thought the prius sat like a normal car, and the insight only seats 2.<br><br><br><br>
I thought about getting a hybrid civic when I get a civic, but I drive so little there would be little environmental or economic incentive for me to get one for the time being.
 

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I am slightly interested in the Prius, though it is hard to justify the price. The similiar gas powered Echo is about $8,000-$9,000 less. I actually really want/need a smaller station wagon.<br><br><br><br>
The Prius is a five seater and I put alink below to Toyota's website.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehicles/prius/specs/prius_specs.html" target="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehi...ius_specs.html</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by RichBeBe</i><br><br><b>I am slightly interested in the Prius, though it is hard to justify the price. The similiar gas powered Echo is about $8,000-$9,000 less. I actually really want/need a smaller station wagon.<br><br><br><br>
The Prius is a five seater and I put alink below to Toyota's website.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehicles/prius/specs/prius_specs.html" target="_blank">http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehi...ius_specs.html</a></b></div>
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i had the same problem rich, the cost. i really wanted to get the prius but at 150% of the cost of an echo, i couldn't justify it - not with the possibility of grad school right around the corner for me. then again, i'm only leasing the car so i think it's not too bad. when the lease ends and i'm out of school, i should be able to afford a much more environmentally friendly car.
 

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Truthfully I could afford the car and there would be a $2,000 tax deduction if I bought a new one. But with my tax bracket and such I wouldn't save enough to be worth it. I do love the novel idea of the savings on gas mileage and the lessening of the impact on the enviornment but my commute is going to hopefully go from 60 miles a day (in stop and go traffic) to less then 15 miles a day. I just can't justify it, nor do I think anyone can.
 

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On a slightly unrelated note, I actually have a "conspiracy theory" on the pricing of the hybrid vehicles.<br><br><br><br>
The car manufacturers want to appear to be making an effort to be ecologically responsible, so that they have a good image with the public. The oil companies, however, will have decreased profits if hybrid vehicles catch on with mainstream car buyers. Therefore, I think the car manufacturers are getting kickbacks from the oil companies to keep the pricing at a certain level that will keep the hybrid vehicles in the niche market. As long as hybrid vehicles remain in the niche market, the oil companies won't see a significant profit loss. (And the environment won't see significant relief, either.)<br><br><br><br>
So the car manufacturers can pay lip service to the idea of being ecologically responsible, while raking in kickbacks from the oil manufacturers.<br><br><br><br>
It's just my opinion, though. No one has to agree with me.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by RichBeBe</i><br><br><b>I just can't justify it, nor do I think anyone can.</b></div>
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Rich, you are forgetting that you are already engaged.<br><br><br><br>
For single men, a Prius can be much more of an "eco-babe" magnet than an Echo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Hmm...$21,000...I could buy a Miata, a PT Cruiser, a Mini, maybe a convertible Beetle, I think those are more babe magnets. Besides I have a garage full of motorcycles that usually do the magnet trick <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
But either way I am not looking to attract...well someone I like to be attractive to.
 

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most kickbacks are not in the form you would normaly consider. But I am absoultly sure that its in the best intrest of the auto industry to not allow eletric and other cars become the main stay.
 

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My dad bought the civic hybrid a couple of months ago. I've only been in it once but it is was really cool and he is really happy with it. He commutes over 120miles a day round trip so it was a good choice for him.<br><br><br><br>
As for options, I can't remember. I know it only comes in three colors and the interior only comes in one. I think you can only get it fully loaded with the air conditioner, power windows, CD player, etc.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by CaptainSwab</i><br><br><b>He commutes over 120miles a day round trip so it was a good choice for him.</b></div>
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wow.. i really can't understand people like him. i would hate to have to commute more than 20 miles a day round trip, i don't know how he does it.
 

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weve discussed the hybrids in school, especially honda...<br><br>
and from what ive heard, i definitely would not get one<br><br><br><br>
apparently the replacement batteries, which you Will need, for the life of the car, cost in the 4 digit range<br><br><br><br>
ive also heard that honda will supply you with 1 battery when you take the car, and 1 more battery if it dies during a certain time frame... then you are just SOL as far as replacements<br><br><br><br>
so if you plan on keeping the car for 7 or 10 years... its gonna cost<br><br><br><br>
heh... i think diesel engines with those new refined cooking oil fuels are pretty rockin'. everyone thinks diesels pollute more because of the smoke and the noise... but actually they polllute less on average then gasoline engines<br><br><br><br>
i drive a crappy toyota echo now... 8th greenest car of 2001...<br><br>
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Click and Clack the Tappan Brothers (anybody else listen to them on NPR? ) really dig the Prius. They liked it a lot better than the Insight. I've never been in either, so I can't really say.<br><br><br><br>
Scarey--I will probably get an Echo for my next car. You don't know crappy until you ride in the Tempo of Doom.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by scareyvegan</i><br><br><b>everyone thinks diesels pollute more because of the smoke and the noise... but actually they polllute less on average then gasoline engines<br><br><br><br>
i drive a crappy toyota echo now... 8th greenest car of 2001...<br><br>
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well, while diesel engines don't pollute more, they're smokey because of unburned hydrocarbons. in other words, their specific fuel consumption is higher than SI engines so more fuel is needed per unit of output power. so there are certainly advantages and disadvantages to both engines, it depends what you're looking to achieve.<br><br><br><br>
and i too have a toyota echo, mine's black. and i love it so :p
 

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mines black too!<br><br>
4 doors<br><br><br><br>
we have such good taste, we both picked the ugliest car toyota makes!<br><br><br><br>
Caroline
 
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